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Lee GLS

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P.fogwill Hotwash
« on: December 11, 2010, 08:40:38 pm »
has anyone got one of the hotwash systems from peter forwill, i see that he is selling them on ebay now, but how to they compare to the L5? seems like that can heat the van, run 2 pumps off 1 hotwash and there is no cut out, it seems like a good deal?

mci services

Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 08:49:49 pm »
the ones on ebay are L5 with no modification, you will have to wait if you want the van mount with all the kit.

LWC

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 08:51:49 pm »
Link?

BORBRYCE

Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 08:53:35 pm »
Stu, has he not got a brand new thing just out yesterday, not an l5?

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 08:54:19 pm »
stu take a look on ebay its not an l5.  
Peters hotwash £185 delivered looks great!!!


mci services

Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2010, 08:55:12 pm »

Roy Harding

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 09:10:08 pm »
I bought one, I will do a review when fitted.

Roy









Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 12:04:31 am »
all i know is ste m ad no replies
to his endless emails phone calls
and everything else he tried to do
to contact pete regards his system
my m8 sold him a l5 cheap
ste m happy as larry though he
did all the mods required etc  ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

ronnie paton

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 08:58:54 am »
i rang emailed and text at least 30 times, no really response.

and they were 495 on website so something cant be the same for them to be over half the price.

ian1972

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 09:04:28 am »
Well for the coin he's asking for u can't moan full jot system with frost protection built in wit a refillable LPG tank some the mutts nuts to me

Dave Willis

Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 09:29:53 am »
No, £180 odd is for the unit only.

Jack Wallace

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 11:08:30 am »
i rang emailed and text at least 30 times, no really response.

and they were 495 on website so something cant be the same for them to be over half the price.

I would be interested as have not yet ordered the L5, (looking for alternatives) but I have read on here so many times how bad Peter is at answering emails and such that it puts me off.
Basicaly, if you buy from him you are on your own if you have problems.


dave0123

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 11:52:13 am »
Peter's hotwash looks great. runs off lpg as well fill up at petty station about 65p a litre
Dave.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 01:00:38 pm »
i rang emailed and text at least 30 times, no really response.

and they were 495 on website so something cant be the same for them to be over half the price.

I would be interested as have not yet ordered the L5, (looking for alternatives) but I have read on here so many times how bad Peter is at answering emails and such that it puts me off.
Basicaly, if you buy from him you are on your own if you have problems.


I always answer my phone, and if a customer wants me for anything they know how to get me.  Sometimes at night, and even on a Sunday.  The HotWash is Guaranteed for a year along with all the parts.  Do you know anyone who has sent their L5 back to the USA to have it fixed under guarantee?  I wouldn't think so, I would guess they get thrown away and a new one bought.
 
Peter
www.window-tools.com

Panorama

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 01:55:12 pm »
Peter , what is the cost of the hot wash set up alone , by which I mean , unit, LPG tank and cage?

Jack Wallace

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 02:10:08 pm »
i rang emailed and text at least 30 times, no really response.

and they were 495 on website so something cant be the same for them to be over half the price.

I would be interested as have not yet ordered the L5, (looking for alternatives) but I have read on here so many times how bad Peter is at answering emails and such that it puts me off.
Basicaly, if you buy from him you are on your own if you have problems.


I always answer my phone, and if a customer wants me for anything they know how to get me.  Sometimes at night, and even on a Sunday.  The HotWash is Guaranteed for a year along with all the parts.  Do you know anyone who has sent their L5 back to the USA to have it fixed under guarantee?  I wouldn't think so, I would guess they get thrown away and a new one bought.
 
Peter
www.window-tools.com
Thanks for the reply Peter.  I stand corrected ;D

[GQC] Tim

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 02:56:56 pm »
I don't understand the bit about being able to fill the tank up at the local petrol station? It says in the description you need to use your own red LPG gas bottle?

What's the "lpg tank with remote filler" all about?

[GQC] Tim

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 02:58:00 pm »

Peter Fogwill

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Re: P.fogwill Hotwash
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 04:02:13 pm »
And ps. can we not bypass the insurance problem by just using one of these? :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LPG-CAR-TANK-SPARE-WHEEL-WELL-TYPE-/320629477443?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa7019043
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Tim, the tank I am using is a different version of the tank in the link.  The one in the link is for the spare wheel space. the one I am using would fit in the boot of a car.  They need to be secured whatever one you use, and instead of securing in the boot I will be securing on a metal frame that will be secured to the vehicle chassis.  You will also find that for most LPG car conversions they will use quite big gas tanks so as they can get quite a distance between fills.  If I used a tank that size it would last years.  We only need a small amount and I have went for a 10L one,  It has a gauge and when you see it quarter full you can top it up for around £2.80.  Using the gas in this way will pay for the system in no time at all.

The listing is for the water heater only, no LPG tank, no overnight thermostat, no exhaust extraction, and no securing frame. If you buy the water heater from the listing then you would need your own gas supply, and the easist way to get it up and running is a gas bottle.  A gas bottle in a van is safer than having a spare can of petrol, and lots of tradesmen carry them around connected to blowtorches etc, but there is more of a tendency to leak through connections etc.  With the LPG tanks there is a sealed box around the valve and filler attachment and gauge, with a pipe leading to outside the vehicle, so has no chance of any gas escaping into the vehicle.
 
For the complete package I will be doing for £499 plus delivery and VAT for at least two months, and then I will review the price later on.
 
A few people from ebay have asked if they can add the other stuff on later, and the answer is yes, the heater just slides into the frame at any time.
 
Insurance keeps cropping up and I am working on something for the insurance companies.
 
Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com