[mci services]

so so wrong slump!!
if your van is designed (payoad) to carry 1000kg in the back your braking WILL NOT be compromised,
If you have 1000kg of water in an un baffled tank it will!!
Its breaking the law and should not be taken for granted.
fa you are in an accident and there is a fatality you would be doing a stretch. Believe me I know traffic law!!!!!

any chance of quoting chapter and paragraph on that statement or a link

[d s windowcleaning]

hey up mate .
                     the wear and tear on your van due to the sloshing around can be bad you pull up at a junction and the water will slosh forwards and back , you take a corner and the water gos side to side . theres loads to be listed on what damage can be done just with sloshing water .

[mci services]

back to the subject brakes is the biggest wear and tear on any vehicle carrying a load

[scud]

[So what about the control of the serge?

  The England back row used to control him very well, but as he has now retired fron International Rugby I wouldn't worry about him anymore, it's that Harinourdiquy that causes all the trouble these days.

[Dave Willis]

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/safetyloadsonvehicles.pdf

Section 4 makes interesting reading as does the section on strapping angles of ratchet straps.

[dd]

When i was a test driver for austin rover we carried water butts of 80kg each strapped into the three passenger seats.


The stopping distance difference was massive, especially when braking down from speed.

The laden van will take longer to stop than the unladen one.It will not bother to read your traffic laws before doing so.

Gazza wear and tear is not an issue.Any damage will come mainly from a continual load, not from lack of baffeling.

Slumpy.
I don't get what you are saying. Your earlier comment stated a properly secured load would make no difference to braking distance. Now you are saying that carrying a realtively small load (compared to what most of us carry) makes a massive difference to braking distance.

[chopsie]

Carrying a load will obviously make a difference to stopping distances, whether its a lorry or a tractor,van, car etc.
If you have a load you need to be thinking ahead, Just like lorry drivers etc have to. If your vehicle is designed to carry that weight then I am sure its not illlegal, After all thats what IBC's are made for, Transporting liquids on vehicles!!

[Matthew Bateman]

But IBCs arent secured by ratchet straps through measely eye-rings when transporting liquids on lorries. It isnt so much the container its how it's secured.

[mikecam]

Just thought i would get your opinions on this,...i have a 640 ibc tank without baffles , in my transit....

i feel the pull to one side on every roundabout,..... the van rocks at the traffic lights,

How much is all this taking its toll on the van?

my tyres must be wearing on one side, my tracking must be getting hammered , and my fuel consumption must be above normal,

but what will it be doing to the engine straining  against all the pushing and pulling of water in motion?

Your tyres will not wear on one side, you're tracking is not getting hammered and your fuel consumption should not be above normal providing you realise what you are carrying and drive according to what you are carrying. Baffling the tank is not a 'cure all' to enable someone to carry on driving how they like with a heavy liquid load. They important thing is that the tank is secured properley, if its not the stresses on the anchor points could be a potential point of wear caused by liquid sloshing about and stressing them.