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prochem chemicals
« on: November 25, 2010, 11:34:13 am »
Morning i have been using cleansmart chem since i started carpet cleaning but i am wanting to use prochem as i have a local dealer to save on p&p. Im thinking off getting some pre spray and extraction solution for a pre spray i was going to get multi pro then for a extraction solution i was going to get the contract carpet extraction cleaner. Are these two good will they work good together ?

MAX Carpets

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 11:53:34 am »
pre spray gold and fibre and fabric rinse

M.Acorn

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 12:42:52 pm »
I find they do what they say on the tin,have only used Prochem stuff in the 7 years i have been running,Fib and fab rinse on 90% of the work i do,Mulit pro is better than it used to be,use that a lot,as well as p,s, gold,traffic clean,double clean,power burst,ultra pac,odour fresh,solvall,solvex
What goes around comes around

Steve. Taylor

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 03:02:15 pm »
On mingers power burst or ultra pac fib fab rinse. on most others pure clean pre spray warm to hot good agitation 15 min dwell machine is only really used for flushing thats me anyhow

also use a few of there spotters to most of the prochem stuff is good IMO
Steve T       All the gear but no idea!
www.leatherrepairsouthampton.co.uk

garyj

Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 04:04:20 pm »
Is there much difference between the acid rinses? I'm using Woodbridge's at the moment but have used Fib Fab in the past. Got to honest and say I don't give my acid rinse much thought!
Never had a problem with Prochem and think I will start using them again when my latest batch of chemical has run out.

Steve. Taylor

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 04:13:31 pm »
Acid rinse heres a thought what would happen if you added 100ml white vinegar with 50 ml of deoderiser then filled the rest up with water :o to make your 5 litre container.
Steve T       All the gear but no idea!
www.leatherrepairsouthampton.co.uk

Joe H

Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 04:17:34 pm »
Acid rinse!
Rarely use it - I use environmentally friendly stuff most of the time so dont need it - still get the carpets clean the more friendly way.

wynne jones

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2010, 04:52:29 pm »
Acid rinse!
Rarely use it - I use environmentally friendly stuff most of the time so dont need it - still get the carpets clean the more friendly way.

More Ecotosh as usual Joe.

You just use low alkaline products like that Cornwall seawater you are always on about. Nothing to do with being environmantally friendly.

Acid rinse is a complete rip off. Do a ph test after cleaning a carpet with powerburst or something. Even with a little portable you will find it's near as damn it neutral. 
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Joe H

Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 05:00:11 pm »
Actually Wynne, I dont use the Cornish seawater much at all, its the North Sea water variety I use most of the time ie Nemesis.  ;)

So you not into Nem or MP, have you tried it? or are you one of those who have but didnt get a result so gave up.  Funny how there are soooo many using either and get good results.

wynne jones

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 05:48:54 pm »
Joe, no offense to anybody but I hear people on hear saying they get just as good results with a portable as someone with a TM, so then I know that 'good result' means different things to different people.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Bob Allen

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2010, 06:08:12 pm »
Power burst, heat wave....truckmount and citrus gel that should cover most things!
Bob Allen

Paul Heath

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2010, 06:34:06 pm »
Pre spray with Multi pro then rinse with Fibre/Fabric rinse. :)

Matt Seymour

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2010, 07:03:27 pm »
Nothing wrong with Prochem. Mainly use their stuff and it has never let me down.

I've tried all the environmentally friendly stuff with very mixed results. It's OK on a relatively clean carpet, but it's not great on anything with bad traffic marks in my opinion.

I've also found that some of the Craftex chemicals are good too.

ianharper

Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2010, 07:10:15 pm »
for me my problem with some of prochem range and its normally the liquids is value. price in relation to dilution rates

Matt Seymour

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2010, 07:24:29 pm »
for me my problem with some of prochem range and its normally the liquids is value. price in relation to dilution rates

I would agree with that.

In terms of value for money/dilution rate M Power is probably one of the best.

wynne jones

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2010, 07:32:45 pm »
I read on here Mpower type products are derived from oil slick clean up technology. When I investigated this I found they stopped using it cos it was rubbish and killed more fauna than natural dispersion. I guess they had to find another way to make money out of it.

I will find the link and put it up.

I found another one even more scary. This bloke reckons it's the new asbestos! What an irony for Mrs Greens lungs.

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/scientists-oppose-nano-dispersant-proposed-for-gulf/19495279

It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

gr cleaning solutions

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2010, 08:36:41 pm »
thanks for all your replies if i use multi pro pre spray which is ph 10.5 would it be possible to rinse with an 8.5 or would the ph have to be lower ,sorry but Ive been reading back over about the ph rate and my head is bouncing

wynne jones

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2010, 09:12:46 pm »
I wouldn't get too hung up on it, that's for courses where you need maths and a pen and paper. Play it safe and don't use it on wool unless it's trashed. Put the rinse in your machine as directed on the container. As you get more experienced you will be putting a lot worse on trashed carpets. ;D
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Steve. Taylor

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2010, 09:19:56 pm »
I honestly beleive the cleaning is done with the quality of the prespray the agitation and dwell time in that order get that right and you will not end up in a years time with a shed full of chems ;)
Steve T       All the gear but no idea!
www.leatherrepairsouthampton.co.uk

gr cleaning solutions

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Re: prochem chemicals
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2010, 09:19:56 pm »
Thanks wynne all new to with prochem i just been using cleansmart chems and as the window cleaning side off the business is doing well im really getting into the carpet side and enjoying it