[firefly123]

been useing  w f p for years now have had the ultimate test to day new job on the sea front  salt on glass so thick you could not see through the glass used suppulite first left spots all over the glass yes i did rinse  it well then i used viken brush far better job why the hell cant they make it lighter

[AuRavelling79]

How soon after the clean with the superlite did you clean with the vikan?

I am just wondering if the first clean got rid of the worst of it and the second, being a repeat clean didn't have so much work to do?

In other words would you have had the same result if you had cleaned first with the vikan and second the superlight?

[Spruce]

How soon after the clean with the superlite did you clean with the vikan?

I am just wondering if the first clean got rid of the worst of it and the second, being a repeat clean didn't have so much work to do?

In other words would you have had the same result if you had cleaned first with the vikan and second the superlight?

ditto.

We also live by the sea and on a bad day the Vikans would leave spots as well - always double clean and rinse very well to get all that salt spray and fine grit off using a higher flow rate.

I loved my Vikans, used the ovals for years, but the Flocked dual trim superlite (black) is just as good cleaning wise and sooooooo much lighter.

[Jeff Brimble]

Sea front grease is v. hard work. Maybe Gold is right you need a second or even a third clean with coastal grease

[windowswashed]

I've used the supalite brush for ages but have recently gone over to Ungers new improved brush and found that it scrubs better with less effort than the supalite as it has more bristles and a larger surface area. The brush isn't heavy but performs better.

At what point does lightness of brush lose out to an alternative heavier brush that makes scrubbing more effortless?

[Jeff Brimble]

Unger have been 5 years behind the markets, good that they have an improved brush, I suppose its wishfull thinking that it fits their own angle adapter ?

[Spruce]

I've used the supalite brush for ages but have recently gone over to Ungers new improved brush and found that it scrubs better with less effort than the supalite as it has more bristles and a larger surface area. The brush isn't heavy but performs better.

At what point does lightness of brush lose out to an alternative heavier brush that makes scrubbing more effortless?

Good question.
One of the local lads continues to use the Brodex Prolong Ali poles that weigh a ton. He maintains that the weight of the pole and brush make cleaning much quicker. I just found the combination too heavy.
I use my Unger Teleplus pole once every six weeks for a job we have with the Vikan brush on it. The weight of the brush is very noticeable when compared to the Superlite and I don't notice any difference to cleaning performance using a light pole and light brush. Its all down to personal preferences in the end and what works for you I suppose.
Never used the new Unger brush.
Spruce

[G Griffin]

I thought it would have been a review of the brush by Roy Walker.

[Slash]

Vikan brush all the time

[windiewasher]

vikan sill on every first clean oh and 2nd,3rd,4th

[[GQC] Tim]

Superlite brush is okay, but can be better. The problem is that I believe off the top of my head that over the years there were atleast 3 different revisions of the dual trim mono alone. I think I'm using a mark 2, and it requires too much force for it to splay, it's a dual trim, but the inner bristles do not touch the glass during normal use. The mark 1 was quite nice, but wasn't too powerful for anything beyond regular cleans.

I haven't tried the latest version of it.
Like the others said, sea-side cleans can be a pain (even though I live nowhere near the sea), needs more work.

Vikans might be good brushes but in my opinion it's totally pointless to have a heavy weight brush on an everyday pole. Defeats the purpose of even having a carbonfibre (or other lightweight) pole. You want to go lighter, less fatique in a day to work faster, yet a brick is put on the end of the pole. Doesn't make sense to me. Only brush I used was a mono rectangular Vikan, and found it pretty horrible.

The brushes I'm dying to try out now and will get some over the next month is a dt 9" Tucker, an Aerial brush, and the new superlight extreme brush by gardiners next month. See what's best and still lightweight.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

 i didnt like it at first now love it
forget ya bentleys this is a quaitly brush 

[Mike #1]

salt water marks will take some shifting even if you only used the vikan you would have had to scrub a few times to get rid of all marks , i remember from using the vikan it would not get bird muck off so easy sometimes my superlite does'nt either with out a really good scrub i think we all expect a bit to much from our brushes at times , I the mk1 superlite was the dogs *******  for really dirty windows it s like a scrubbing brush but i do prefer the latest single trim for everyday use

[the bfg]

I was using a superlite for a couple of weeks but I'm afraid it was also light weight when it came to cleaning and found I neeeded to stay longer on each window with it compared to the vikan.

I used to use the Ionics double trim brush but found that it went flat within a few months and later found out the bristles went compatable with hot water hence the flatness after just a few months,     however back in January I bought a glyder pole with the new double trim brush on so decided to give it a go before I swapped brush heads but have found it to be top notch and its still retained its shape after hot water use.

I still love my vikan oval brushes because they also do the job but I'm now also satisfied with my Ionics double trim,   as for my superlite well its now a spare that I will prob never use again.

[jsm]

is it me or have brush prices gone through the roof

nearly half the cost of a standard 18ft pole

the old vikan ovals was good but to heavy , i have a old bently from gardiner's, if i remember was super cheap from them , still going strong on the big fishing pole then bought into the superlight brush , nice brush but lots of doller for what it is - and it is the same weight as the bentley gram for gram -

cheap bentley double trim is all we need - do they make one ??

now seen hogs hair ones - what next ...... bring back those big blue salome brushes , couldnt lift the buggers

[the bfg]

the Ionics double trim brush is only 20 odd quid mate  and last time I seen on Gardners site they had oval 10 inch Vikan brushes for about £15

[dai]

The latest B&Q monofilament is a good brush, black stock with blue bristles. I have never had a brush that splayed so well. I use my superlite for the short pole on the bottoms. this does the bulk of the work and does stand up to it very well.
The one thing is pretty obvious, the more rigid the pole, the more scrubbing power you get. A whipy pole at 40 ft will only kiss the glass, the harder you press the more it bends.