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andyM

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2010, 02:57:15 pm »
Darren ro systems are usually quoted in a percentage figure of its efficiency at removing impurities. This is usually between 95% and 98%. So if your water going in was 300ppm you should expect it to come out at between 6-15ppm. Then into your DI to bring it to 0ppm.
As far as im aware to reduce waste on a normal ro system another membrane is added which is fed from the waste of the first membrane. Thats how my one works anyway, some systems have 2 or 3 membranes for this purpose,good water pressure helps aswell.
One of the Plebs

elite mike

Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2010, 03:13:09 pm »
mike

one of these coupled with the resin canister will do you nicely  comes ready assembled to 8)

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pure-freedom-compact-reverse-osmosis-systems-p-291.html
just get an ibc or big water butts

if you go down the trolly or backpack route, its easy enough to change to a van mount

if you need to

mike

Mike55

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2010, 03:49:41 pm »
So with an ro system the mains water passes through the ro system, then through the di cannister then stored in a tank/ waterbut? I don't have a garage at the mo so could I still do this?

elite mike

Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2010, 06:23:51 pm »
yes mike if you have a shed or outhouse to protect the ro from the frost

Mike55

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2010, 06:35:22 pm »
think I'm going down the di route for now and will add ro later.  Pure freedom will be my port of call me thinks.

Thanks to all that have given me advice.  I may be back for more later regarding setup and which brush/pole to use.

Cheers
Mike

Frankybadboy

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2010, 07:32:02 pm »
my storage tank ibc sit outside all year,my ro stays out side most of the year in a garden box,but in the winter it come in to the down stairs toilet and sits there,pipes run out the window,sorted.

paul saunders

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2010, 07:40:25 pm »
my storage tank ibc sit outside all year,my ro stays out side most of the year in a garden box,but in the winter it come in to the down stairs toilet and sits there,pipes run out the window,sorted.
What do you do with your transfer pump in the winter?
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

Paul Coleman

Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2010, 11:57:21 pm »
Ford Escort 55D van.  I think the payloads on these are about 475kg.

One other thing, I live in a 300 ppm area but have been told I only need DI system due to the size of my round.  Am I correct in saying that RO is suited to bigger rounds only?

Although some do it, I don't think an Escort really has the payload to cope with doing WFP in earnest.  Probably OK to get a few barrels and a trolley or backpack in to cover upstairs windows but not enough (IMO) if you want to get larger sized work.
All IMO of course.  Some may disagree.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2010, 07:49:28 am »
my storage tank ibc sit outside all year,my ro stays out side most of the year in a garden box,but in the winter it come in to the down stairs toilet and sits there,pipes run out the window,sorted.
What do you do with your transfer pump in the winter?
transfer pump sits in the bottom of the ibc,and has done for 2years. :o :o :o :o

if it freezes then i have tap fitted at bottom of ibc so i then fill me 25ltr barrels.
when it was really cold(big freeze)again i just made my water into the 25ltr barrels in the down stairs toilet.



must admint that the toilet is out of action all winter.

clarkson

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2010, 08:24:17 am »

  Hi
   Just say i agree with most of what has been said.  RO is to make high ppm water pure in the most cost effective manner. this does not have to cost a fortune. As has been said an ro, ibc tank and transfer pump can be bought for under 300. I use a merlin these are readily available.

   You will recoup this money very quickly as resin is very expensive, it is also a hassle filling the vessel which you will quickly get fedup with the amount of times you will have to do it.

   As regards a van mount i would say in most cases you are better off, but a friend of mine has terraced houses and finds wheeling the trolley down the entry is easier than pulling hoses round, especially with parking issues.

 van mount also doesnt have to be proffesionally system, just by a tank and pump make sure you secure it well though.

 one thing is you will have to change the van as the round builds, 250  will not last past the morning so you will need to go home for lunch and fill up. I deally you need 500 or 600 litres  perhaps even 800-1000 but you need a transit or vivaro for that.


all of this has been said but just to confirm it

cheers

john






   

Paul Coleman

Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2010, 08:34:12 am »
think I'm going down the di route for now and will add ro later.  Pure freedom will be my port of call me thinks.

Thanks to all that have given me advice.  I may be back for more later regarding setup and which brush/pole to use.

Cheers
Mike

Don't expect it to cost you £80 a month in resin like you said on a previous post.
At 300 TDS, you won't even get 2,000 litres for a (£70ish) bag of resin.  I can get through 2,000 litres in a week never mind a month.

Richard Neal

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2010, 09:02:42 am »
i use a 350 GPD with a booster pump and resin vessel into a holding tank at home, the problem i have is that i use more water than i produce! it is very slow and i have the pump going 24 hours a day, i change the pre filters and resin every 2.5 months
Im not scared of heights, just falling from them.
mrwindowclean@hotmail.co.uk

dazmond

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2010, 09:21:23 am »
how do you guys use so much water?i had my best day ever on friday and that inclu a fascia clean(that i cleaned with pure!).a little over 225L all day!i do trad the odd downstairs windows though.

the most ive used was 300L AND THAT WAS ON MY FIRST DAY 9PM-8PM!(first cleans!).i use a flowcontroller set on 40-60 and use 5mm hose and a pole tap.

250-300L A DAY is enough for me.i dont wash doors down though as a lot of custies dont like it.in fact im using less now that first and second cleans are out of the way!!



dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Mike55

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2010, 07:36:13 pm »
That's what I thought Dazmond (or what I was told my the tucker rep).... 300L a day maximum for a full time window cleaner.  Also said only worth getting a DI setup.  That's why I thought I would get away with DI only for now.

steven ainger

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2010, 10:21:59 am »
i use about 400 ltrs a day, but i use pure on everything.
  all windows, top and bottom all doors gutters/ fascias con roofs etc.
 i have a 500 ltr tank and have never run out, but have come close a few times.

Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2010, 12:40:56 pm »
Mike 55 if you live near aquafactors they sell purewater.

Paul Coleman

Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2010, 06:22:54 pm »
how do you guys use so much water?i had my best day ever on friday and that inclu a fascia clean(that i cleaned with pure!).a little over 225L all day!i do trad the odd downstairs windows though.

the most ive used was 300L AND THAT WAS ON MY FIRST DAY 9PM-8PM!(first cleans!).i use a flowcontroller set on 40-60 and use 5mm hose and a pole tap.

250-300L A DAY is enough for me.i dont wash doors down though as a lot of custies dont like it.in fact im using less now that first and second cleans are out of the way!!



dazmond

I like to work with a fairly decent flow rate as I feel (rightly or wrongly) that it gives a better likelihood of the job being OK.  Also, if I have a decent flow, I feel more able to work faster.  I've tried lower flow rates and I found mysaelf slowing down as I felt uncertain of the quality.

Wc Solutions

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2010, 07:23:02 pm »
if you are starting out wfp and after kit then def give john hewitts site a butchers - hes got some good kit at very good prices.

Mike55

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Re: Going to implement WFP
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2010, 07:01:17 pm »
http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc.htm

I take it this is the one?  Looks like good value has anyone used this at all?