[Steve CM]

a web designer create sites from the ground up. I think one uses dreamweaver the other uses templates...or am i wrong? If so i wouldn't call them web designers. Maybe keen Amauters.

Its a bit like someone buying a camera and calling themselves a photographer

Dreamweaver is a standard web design tool,.. probably the best in the industry. Its not a cheat,.. just a tool.

I use templates mostly because its cheaper, and us window cleaners are tight! I do also build from scratch, but due to the extra cost its rare that I get asked to.

Thanks to all who recommended me,.. but at the moment I'm booked up solidly for 6 weeks minimum.

I never said it was a cheat. but designers who use it would normally just write the code as opposed to using the app. To create a template of your own doesn't take long if you know how to use PS. so cost shouldn't be the issue

[Nathanael Jones]

Dreamweaver lets you write the code direct with a live preview of your progress,.. one of the reasons I like it.

The coding part of making a new template doesn't take long at all,.. its the graphic design side of things that I personally find time consuming.

[Steve CM]

Dreamweaver lets you write the code direct with a live preview of your progress,.. one of the reasons I like it.

The coding part of making a new template doesn't take long at all,.. its the graphic design side of things that I personally find time consuming.

Seriously the graphic design part is the simplist. It would take a matter of a hour or so to come up with a decent web template.

Do you write code then nat? could you write a website from scratch on note pad and put it straight into dreamweaver and have a fully functioning site?

[Nathanael Jones]

Seriously the graphic design part is the simplist. It would take a matter of a hour or so to come up with a decent web template.

Do you write code then nat? could you write a website from scratch on note pad and put it straight into dreamweaver and have a fully functioning site?

Graphic design is not my strong point!!

I would find it tough going coding a site from scratch though,.. the WYSIWYG interfaces of the last 10 years have made me lazy!

[Steve CM]

Graphic design is not my strong point!!

I don't need to add anything else after this. If you can't create a template then your a window cleaner trying to be a designer

Not putting you down, just saying it as i see it

[Window Washers]

a web designer create sites from the ground up. I think one uses dreamweaver the other uses templates...or am i wrong? If so i wouldn't call them web designers. Maybe keen Amauters.

Its a bit like someone buying a camera and calling themselves a photographer

I am not getting dragged into this one, I do use dreamweaver as do many of the web companies in the uk it is a tool to do a job as is photoshop and many others there is a little more to designing then just what you see, but I really cant be assed going into it, .

Love your new site by the way 
 

[Steve CM]

About time you got yours done ain't it?

[Window Washers]

About time you got yours done ain't it?

One day lol

[Steve CM]

I know a good designer if you want his number? 

[LWC]

a web designer create sites from the ground up. I think one uses dreamweaver the other uses templates...or am i wrong? If so i wouldn't call them web designers. Maybe keen Amauters.

Its a bit like someone buying a camera and calling themselves a photographer

I am not getting dragged into this one, I do use dreamweaver as do many of the web companies in the uk it is a tool to do a job as is photoshop and many others there is a little more to designing then just what you see, but I really cant be assed going into it, .

Love your new site by the way 
 

Comparing photoshop to dreamweaver is a little wrong in my opinion. As Nat said dreamweaver and other interfaces have become very easy to use and made people lazy lol.

Photoshop is a strong and hard program to use, i could give someone dreamweaver and after an hour they probably could of made a basic layout, its just like doing a miscorsoft word document. Give someone photoshop and they wouldnt know where to start, ive been using it for years and its hard, now i dont know everything on there but i can always acheive what im looking for on it, but thats taken a long time...like coding a website 

[leights]

i built this one myself mate

www.goldoakwindowcleaning.co.uk