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Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: STAFF
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2009, 04:51:55 pm »
Clearpoint, you can give him/her warnings about their performance, as it has a direct influence on the business. First warning verbal. second warning written. the next warning, your FIRED!
 ;D
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Steve CM

Re: STAFF
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2009, 04:53:45 pm »
if there on statuary sick the government pay it i would never give full sick pay.

same here. i've never paid a bean for sick as none have opted to go down the statuary route. they normally want to get back to work to earn proper money.

i'm kind of bored of this employing or not and staying on your own business. so i'm gonna ignore them (if i can ;D) the only way to grow your business is employ. one man can only do so much however great a round he has. Its down to the individual but growth is what i want so employing is the way forward

waynebarry

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Re: STAFF
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2009, 05:59:56 pm »
Been having the same dilemma over the last few days, lost a guy working for me because he felt there was no progression in window cleaning!! was just sorting him out a contract for £16,500 a year, he said it wasnt enough he wants to get a morgage with his girl friend & says he wont get one if hes a window cleaner!!! ive got one so opps!!
I think its a case of just getting the right person.
by the way any ideas what you guys & girls get your staff to do on rainy Days?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: STAFF
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2009, 06:08:56 pm »
If he isnt earning you 2-3 times what you pay him, get rid and get someone else mate.
if you pay him £50 per day and he gets you in £150 per day its a hassle worth having.
think i would rather work in a factory again than work for you  :o :o

Stan thats only 15-18 houses per day. if he/she can't do that then they are not up to the job you have asked of them.
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

GWCS

Re: STAFF
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2009, 06:14:14 pm »
Been having the same dilemma over the last few days, lost a guy working for me because he felt there was no progression in window cleaning!! was just sorting him out a contract for £16,500 a year, he said it wasnt enough he wants to get a morgage with his girl friend & says he wont get one if hes a window cleaner!!! ive got one so opps!!
I think its a case of just getting the right person.
by the way any ideas what you guys & girls get your staff to do on rainy Days?

get them rain work.

conservatory roof cleans, gutter fascia cleans, and then the usual house keeping (tidying the van, equipment checks etc)

also you can get them on the phone ringing customers asking if they want the internal windows cleaned.

Get them flyering.

Needs of the business comes first, employees are NOT just window cleaners, they are operatives of the company - so get them operating for the business.

This is how it is in all employment situations now - you multi task across the business.

Steve CM

Re: STAFF
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2009, 06:18:26 pm »
what you guys & girls get your staff to do on rainy Days?

clean windows!

waynebarry

  • Posts: 254
Re: STAFF
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2009, 06:29:52 pm »
Thanks GWCS some great ideas for the rain.
 Have got another guy thats wants to leave his currant job & join me but i would have to match his wages £20,000 per annum!!! hes been working with me on saturdays for extra money so hes already trained thank god, just see if I can finacally afford him the bonus is hes great at office work so he can grow my business through mail shots & such like which could be done on rainy days!!
I want to gro the business but like you all its finding that right person1

seandyer2003

Re: STAFF
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2009, 06:31:35 pm »
Make sure the flyers are waterproof if you get them posting in rain ive done it with standard paper and they just run and turn to mush :( especially if you have to push them in letterboxes, they turn to paper mache lol

Helen

Re: STAFF
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2009, 10:32:51 pm »
Thanks GWCS some great ideas for the rain.
 Have got another guy thats wants to leave his currant job & join me but i would have to match his wages £20,000 per annum!!! hes been working with me on saturdays for extra money so hes already trained thank god, just see if I can finacally afford him the bonus is hes great at office work so he can grow my business through mail shots & such like which could be done on rainy days!!
I want to gro the business but like you all its finding that right person1
Wow up, why are you even considering matching his current salary? >:( He wants a job with your business, the position pays £xxxx. end of chat.  Why not put a basic salary, with an incentive/bonus scheme, so that he could actually achieve more than £20k if he puts the effort in.

Helen

Re: STAFF
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2009, 10:34:19 pm »
Blimey so many negative posts re employing its only difficult if you tell yourself its difficult.

Everyone on here is looking at this from the viewpoint of an employer or at the very least someone who is self employed, everyone on this site works for themselves so don,t necessary have the same working mindset has the guy who wants to be on books with is tax & ni sorted by his employer. All staff can be managed, they either perform to your standards or you manage them out of your business.

What exactly is wrong? Is his work standard good enough or is it just a case of you didn't realise what was involved behind the scenes?  Helen asked this good question or do you not have structure or systems in place to manage the employees hence it feeling like hard work.

Cheers Mark.

See we haven't had an answer, so guess it justs the behind the scenes stuff :)

newbroom

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Re: STAFF
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2009, 04:14:06 pm »
Hi Helen ,

Are you wiating for a reply from me or the origina post.

A very easily confused man (me)