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dai

  • Posts: 3503
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2009, 12:38:21 pm »
Most accidents occour when getting on or off a ladder onto a balcony or a fflat roof. Its that point in time when you have to lean across and commit your weight to the ladder but you are too far to go back.

If the ladders going to go, thats when it will happen. I'm sure all of us have felt a ladder move when doing this at some time or another.

Quite true Vince, I would never attempt to get off a balcony if the ladder was only resting on a varnished top rail.
For balconies without roof support pillars I place the ladder on the house wall, leaving enough space to keep my shoulder clear of the balcony when I go up, and I make sure that the ladder is at least 4 rungs above the highest part of the balcony top rail.
Fortunately, most baconies have convenient chairs to step onto, but beware, those folding type chairs can snap like a carrot.
Getting off the balcony onto the ladder is the biggest risk area, that's why it's assential to stand on something to raise your height when stepping off, even then you need to hold onto the ladder with one hand and the balcony with the other to prevent the ladder moving away.
Only let go of the balcony when all your weight has been safely transferred to the ladder.

Ian W

  • Posts: 1161
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2009, 06:00:53 pm »
I have one job where I have to climb over a balcony. I always tie the ladder off to the rail.

I don't think the way the guy does it in the video is acceptable today, but I tend to agree with the posters who think that it may be no more dangerous than using a ladder.
Do all the good you can, and make as little fuss about it as possible.
Charles Dickens

mistersqueegee

  • Posts: 153
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2009, 06:26:38 pm »
Should have used a wfp. It only takes one second to slip and fall.

cozy

Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2009, 06:29:25 pm »
Should have used a wfp. It only takes one second to slip and fall.

So how do you WFP the other side of the glass ???

mistersqueegee

  • Posts: 153
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2009, 06:43:55 pm »
Should have used a wfp. It only takes one second to slip and fall.

So how do you WFP the other side of the glass ???

By coming thru the inside of each balcony.

cozy

Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2009, 06:49:02 pm »
Should have used a wfp. It only takes one second to slip and fall.

So how do you WFP the other side of the glass ???

By coming thru the inside of each balcony.

What if the top custy is not in? Why is he using a ladder?

mistersqueegee

  • Posts: 153
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2009, 06:54:58 pm »
Should have used a wfp. It only takes one second to slip and fall.

So how do you WFP the other side of the glass ???

By coming thru the inside of each balcony.

He's using a ladder no doubt because he thinks it's faster than going inside. I would make sure I had made the proper arrangements for access. I would never climb over a railing just to make a couple bucks. It's not worth my health or life.

What if the top custy is not in? Why is he using a ladder?

cozy

Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2009, 07:03:54 pm »
I think I've misunderstood your earlier post mistersqueegee. You meant, go into the flat, when the custy is home and WFP the inside of the balcony glass ?

mistersqueegee

  • Posts: 153
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2009, 07:12:19 pm »
I think I've misunderstood your earlier post mistersqueegee. You meant, go into the flat, when the custy is home and WFP the inside of the balcony glass ?

Yes, but if I was doing the whole building I'd make sure the building owner had made arrangements for access. I'd probably use trad methods when going doing the interior side of the balcony.

cozy

Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2009, 07:16:41 pm »
I think I've misunderstood your earlier post mistersqueegee. You meant, go into the flat, when the custy is home and WFP the inside of the balcony glass ?

Yes, but if I was doing the whole building I'd make sure the building owner had made arrangements for access. I'd probably use trad methods when going doing the interior side of the balcony.

probably?

mistersqueegee

  • Posts: 153
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2009, 07:29:51 pm »
I think I've misunderstood your earlier post mistersqueegee. You meant, go into the flat, when the custy is home and WFP the inside of the balcony glass ?

Yes, but if I was doing the whole building I'd make sure the building owner had made arrangements for access. I'd probably use trad methods when going doing the interior side of the balcony.

probably? [/qoute]

If the balcony drained away from the doors as they are supposed to I might go w/ a short wfp and backpack.

cozy

Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2009, 07:36:48 pm »
I think I've misunderstood your earlier post mistersqueegee. You meant, go into the flat, when the custy is home and WFP the inside of the balcony glass ?

Yes, but if I was doing the whole building I'd make sure the building owner had made arrangements for access. I'd probably use trad methods when going doing the interior side of the balcony.

probably? [/qoute]

If the balcony drained away from the doors as they are supposed to I might go w/ a short wfp and backpack.

Sorry buddy, just noticed you are in USA. Do you do much trad work there, or is WFP widespread?

mistersqueegee

  • Posts: 153
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2009, 08:02:18 pm »
WFP is really beginning to take hold. I use it as often as is possible. Of Course we do a lot of insides as well so we have to trad those. Either that or turn the house into a waterpark. ;D

Londoner

Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2009, 07:53:01 am »
I always use WFP on the insides, very quick but you don't get any repeat business.

Neil271052

  • Posts: 212
Re: Bad Practice ? balconies
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2009, 08:37:14 am »
was it good money,the bill posting?  theres a couple of bilboards near my home so i see them  up n down the ladders often.  other day i saw a man scraping and painting the frame round the billboard ,he looked in a hurry too

Yes there was loads of money in it the past.

I was self employed and used to earn £60 an hour and work a four hour day ten years ago. I did it for over twenty years.

Never any accidents amongst any of us but when H&S stuck their beaks in and effectively made people work double the time for the same money was when I retired.

Been window cleaning with my son for last few years.
Cheers,
Neil