[Londoner]

The last thing I want to see is loads of trad cleaners converting to WFP. Even worse, lots of new start WFP cleaners.

Trad is best, keep saying it and maybe they will all believe you.

I am WFP but I still believe it will eventually ruin this industry because it appears to be too easy and too many outsiders will jump on the bandwagon.

I keep saying it but nobody is listening.

[peter holley]

i dont think it will...there has always been people starting up and then realising that in our job to succeed you need MOTIVATION , and some people just can't work for themselves...for me, its all i know iv always worked for myself, but iv seen sooooo many wc come and go, and i ends up picking up their work after they finish...

i do agree that many many people will give it a go and undercut etc...but the customer will  always stick with you if you are  REGULAR...

iv had someone canvassing my areas and qouting 50% less , but iv lost none ... iv been told by several of my custies that they prefer to pay me as im regular as clockwork, they trust me and  thats what they need..
remember! most people have been let down in the past and when they find someone reliable they stick to them...

[vision tech]

do you wfp when it is raining?

[Londoner]

i dont think it will...there has always been people starting up and then realising that in our job to succeed you need MOTIVATION , and some people just can't work for themselves...for me, its all i know iv always worked for myself, but iv seen sooooo many wc come and go, and i ends up picking up their work after they finish...

i do agree that many many people will give it a go and undercut etc...but the customer will  always stick with you if you are  REGULAR...

iv had someone canvassing my areas and qouting 50% less , but iv lost none ... iv been told by several of my custies that they prefer to pay me as im regular as clockwork, they trust me and  thats what they need..
remember! most people have been let down in the past and when they find someone reliable they stick to them...

Its started already. The setup is entirely different because the owner of the van is someone like an Asian shopkeeper who has absolutely no intention of doing the work himself.

The attraction for him is that its an untracable cash in hand business. There is no premises, no stock to buy, no invoices, no receipts etc and the work is done by eastern europeans for cash so the whole thing is invisible to the tax man.

The whole intention is just to generate easy money and from that point of view, infortunately, it works very well and that is why I fear it will catch on.

[peter holley]

we havnt got the eastern european problem around here yet, a lot of my work is in rural territories,  people like to know who they are dealing with.....but i can see what your saying, it will be a problem in the cities.

i think the best thing we can do is get to know the customer, even if it means collecting in the evening.....

[peter holley]

do you wfp when it is raining?

yes i have to... its always raining im off out now and guess what?  its raining

[traps7]

i dont think it will...there has always been people starting up and then realising that in our job to succeed you need MOTIVATION , and some people just can't work for themselves...for me, its all i know iv always worked for myself, but iv seen sooooo many wc come and go, and i ends up picking up their work after they finish...

The difference with people starting up fresh with wfp as apposed to trad though is because of the bigger outlay they will have to make it work.

[Tim82]

there will always be trad because there are some windows that just do not take to WFP ( customers need to have their window replaced  ) but I think your right I am seeing more and more WFP out there 

Actually as more windows are replaced they are becoming better and better quality and wfp friendly!

[[GQC] Tim]

Precisely, the windows that wfp doesn't work brilliantly on should have been replaced (or repainted) a long long time ago anyway.