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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by Splash and dash on Today at 05:10:06 pm »
That will be because he will have been found to be fraudulent in the eyes of HMRC - nothing to do with his lack of records beyond year 5.

But if you don’t keep them past 5 years then you cannot defend yourself or prove your innocence if you get an investigation as you wouldn’t have any paperwork , legally you have to keep it 5 years for your own piece of mind it’s worth keeping the much longer

You'd only get an investigation where they pore over records that far back if you had other reasons to be on the radar.

I know a chap who got done for £20,000 when it was seven years. They only went back that far.

If they had found his Caribbean island claimed as a garden office they aren't going to worry about whether the £10 spent on petrol for his wife's car was a business expense or not in 2006.

 ;D


Sorry but that’s not true if you get an investigation they usually will go back way beyond 5 years as they hope to claw back as much money as possible to make the investigation worth while and there reasoning is that what ever the discrepancy that you have been doing it for many years , was only talking to my accountant about this a few weeks ago and he said they go back through everything for up to 20 years on all the cases he’s been involved with and only one case ended up with back dated tax , the reason ones were able to refute HMRC figures was due to having kept records way beyond what you legally need to do . He tells all his clients to keep records for 20 years just in case they might ever be needed .
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Today at 04:14:37 pm »
That will be because he will have been found to be fraudulent in the eyes of HMRC - nothing to do with his lack of records beyond year 5.

But if you don’t keep them past 5 years then you cannot defend yourself or prove your innocence if you get an investigation as you wouldn’t have any paperwork , legally you have to keep it 5 years for your own piece of mind it’s worth keeping the much longer

You'd only get an investigation where they pore over records that far back if you had other reasons to be on the radar.

I know a chap who got done for £20,000 when it was seven years. They only went back that far.

If they had found his Caribbean island claimed as a garden office they aren't going to worry about whether the £10 spent on petrol for his wife's car was a business expense or not in 2006.

 ;D
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by Stoots on Today at 04:07:06 pm »
I had a sort out of all my records going back to 2014 not long ago, half of the receipts i have have faded to the point you cant read them anyway  :D
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by Splash and dash on Today at 01:50:39 pm »
That will be because he will have been found to be fraudulent in the eyes of HMRC - nothing to do with his lack of records beyond year 5.

But if you don’t keep them past 5 years then you cannot defend yourself or prove your innocence if you get an investigation as you wouldn’t have any paperwork , legally you have to keep it 5 years for your own piece of mind it’s worth keeping the much longer
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Today at 11:57:13 am »
That will be because he will have been found to be fraudulent in the eyes of HMRC - nothing to do with his lack of records beyond year 5.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by dazmond on Today at 09:20:56 am »
Just gone in the loft to do a sort out.
Pulled a few boxes down with s/e tax return records going back to 2007 😳.
How long do you keep them.
From what I can gather its 5 yrs from date submitted
 Is this right?
I hope so as I want to bin a few early years.😁

Yep. 5 years.

I'm pretty sure it's 7 years not 5 years....

I have at least 20 years of tax records. HMRC can go back this far if they decide to audit you.

Personally I think its foolish to get rid of any tax records.

Absolutely no need to do this. The government website says 5 years. So 5 years it is.

Good luck if you get an audit then. They can go back 20 years if they want to thoroughly investigate you.

You're talking bollox Daz!  ;D

They can do whatever they want but they can't punish you for not having records prior to the 5 year point.

 ;D

No but they can pluck a figure out of the air that they think you owe them going back 20 years. I know this because a painter and decorater I know ended up with a 55k tax bill even though he had no record of income going back many years. He s still paying it off. HMRC also add interest.😕
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Last post by zesty on Today at 07:13:40 am »
There can be loads of issues Daz, just google it. The DPF will block up if the DPF cycles don’t complete. It’s a very common issue.

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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Tax records
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Yesterday at 09:33:51 pm »
Just gone in the loft to do a sort out.
Pulled a few boxes down with s/e tax return records going back to 2007 😳.
How long do you keep them.
From what I can gather its 5 yrs from date submitted
 Is this right?
I hope so as I want to bin a few early years.😁

Yep. 5 years.

I'm pretty sure it's 7 years not 5 years....

I have at least 20 years of tax records. HMRC can go back this far if they decide to audit you.

Personally I think its foolish to get rid of any tax records.

Absolutely no need to do this. The government website says 5 years. So 5 years it is.

Good luck if you get an audit then. They can go back 20 years if they want to thoroughly investigate you.

You're talking bollox Daz!  ;D

They can do whatever they want but they can't punish you for not having records prior to the 5 year point.

 ;D
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Last post by KS Cleaning on Yesterday at 09:16:21 pm »
Check out the price of some Renault traffic E-Techs.

One year old, hardly any miles, and only £15,000 plus vat.

One year old electric van is the way to go if you want a new vehicle with warranty that isn’t going to burst the bank.

Useless van to me, only the e custom is rated to tow over 2 tonne, and I need that for regular cherry picker towing.

Be great for those of you who don’t tow though. Although, doesn’t look as nice as an e custom.

Be interesting to see how towing affects range ?


I reckon it’ll hammer it, but I only use the cherry pickers locally


I had been thinking about this for people that tow caravans all over the place many ev cars can’t tow so will be interesting to see how this pans out .

Yeah, I mean in the ideal world, we’d have the freedom to choose ev, petrol or diesel. All are needed. The obsession with net zero is ludicrous.

No way I’d be getting an electric van if I was in a trade that did loads of miles, diesel is king.

For me, going an average of 20-25 miles a day, the EV van is a no brainer.

Not having to worry about dpf issues and all the other mechanical issues that go with using a diesel for short journeys is exactly what I want.

I’m also quite keen to have a van that defrosts in the morning before I get in the van. As well as preheating the cabin. All little things that just make life easier.

There's no issues with using diesel vehicles for short journeys. Ive never had a single issue and my van is 9 years old now.
There are issues with using diesel vehicles for short journeys, the DPF cokes up.

Maybe a blast up the motorway at high revs from time to time might help.
I was pointing out to Daz that there are known issues with driving short distances in diesel vehicles.
Yes that’s what I used to do when the warning message came up on the display, up to the dual carriageway, put my auto box into manual mode and drive at 60mph in high revs👍🏻
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Yesterday at 08:54:34 pm »
Check out the price of some Renault traffic E-Techs.

One year old, hardly any miles, and only £15,000 plus vat.

One year old electric van is the way to go if you want a new vehicle with warranty that isn’t going to burst the bank.

Useless van to me, only the e custom is rated to tow over 2 tonne, and I need that for regular cherry picker towing.

Be great for those of you who don’t tow though. Although, doesn’t look as nice as an e custom.

Be interesting to see how towing affects range ?


I reckon it’ll hammer it, but I only use the cherry pickers locally


I had been thinking about this for people that tow caravans all over the place many ev cars can’t tow so will be interesting to see how this pans out .

Yeah, I mean in the ideal world, we’d have the freedom to choose ev, petrol or diesel. All are needed. The obsession with net zero is ludicrous.

No way I’d be getting an electric van if I was in a trade that did loads of miles, diesel is king.

For me, going an average of 20-25 miles a day, the EV van is a no brainer.

Not having to worry about dpf issues and all the other mechanical issues that go with using a diesel for short journeys is exactly what I want.

I’m also quite keen to have a van that defrosts in the morning before I get in the van. As well as preheating the cabin. All little things that just make life easier.

There's no issues with using diesel vehicles for short journeys. Ive never had a single issue and my van is 9 years old now.
There are issues with using diesel vehicles for short journeys, the DPF cokes up.

Maybe a blast up the motorway at high revs from time to time might help.
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