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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Sonberg 5.1 heater review.
« Last post by dazmond on Today at 08:40:51 am »
If something sounds too good to be true it often is. Ive tried in the past to have instant hot water on the cheap. (Gas shower heaters for example)....

Nothing beats a 9kw diesel heater for robustness and longevity
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Sonberg 5.1 heater review.
« Last post by Spruce on Today at 08:39:22 am »

My review of the Sonberg 5.1 KW water heater single operator unit.
I bought this after a Squeaky clean Dave review did on YouTube.
Bought and fitted in April and I used it throughout the summer. I had steam on the glass everyday, customers also noticed enough to ask if the water was hot.
November I came back to the van after the unit had run for 5 hours to find the van full of smoke. I turned the unit off and finished my day.
Sonberg’s customer service was excellent, nearly.
I returned the unit myself as they are 40 miles from me. It was repaired and returned via post within a week. Brilliant. However they would not say what was wrong with it other than it needed a service.
Refitted and two days later it filled the van with smoke again. Sonberg arranged collection this time, I refrained from asking if it required another service and it was repaired and returned within a week again. Excellent service.
Sadly they would only tell me that I must have used poor diesel. Where would you buy poor diesel, I only ever used a high street fuel station. I honestly wouldn’t know where to buy poor diesel.
I lost confidence in it after the second return and now rarely use it. When I do it doesn’t seem to get as hot as it used too, I’m sure they’ve dumbed it down.
So do I rate it, yes, it initially worked very well with hot water to the touch.
Sonberg have been good but I feel frustrated in their reports they claimed that it needed a service or poor diesel was used. On each return they had replaced parts.
It works, recycles each time the univalve is used so it continuously runs avoiding the shut down/recycle, choke it up bit!
I think I’m going to try another unit from another supplier.
Open to offers on this if anyone wants to tinker with it.
Tony

Firstly, was the boiler unit a Webasto? Secondly, where was the smoke coming from? Thirdly, what colour was the smoke?

Imho, the exhaust gases are 'sealed' within the heater and exhaust pipe until they exit from the exhaust pipe outside the van. So the heater should never fill the van with smoke unless there is a leak, possibly where the exhaust pipe joins the boiler.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by Scottish Cleaning Service on Today at 08:12:36 am »
The first 5 years are hard because of all the equipment needed to run the business. I'm after that stage and could go all in and try and grow my customer base but I like doing other things so have got best of both worlds. I think ones age has alot to do with it. I'm near 60 now and just want to plod along and do 3 days a week window cleaning. In life, I never would have thought I would be a window cleaner its one of those trades that operates under the radar of life.

A lot of us started off with a jalopy, a ladder and a bucket. Nothing hard in that.

The hardest part for me was discipline, growing a round from bugger all and working with a ladder when the wind is coming in from the north and you’re squeeging.



I’m doing it all over again over here. But I have one thing on my side, self belief.  I know I know what I’m talking about out here now, a good proportion of my work coming in now is from recommendations. Doesn’t take long if you’ve already done it once.

Yes its easier the second time because one has made all the mistakes.

I was going to buy my window cleaner's round more than 10 years ago for £8k. Relatives talked me out of it and the buyer dumped the domestic cleans. We couldn't get a cleaner so I did me and the neighbour's and then picked up the whole street. Still only had 20 customers and then someone mentioned the window cleaners forum.

Went on the forum and was advised to join Checkatrade and got cleans all over the place. If it wasn't for the forum I would still be using the ladder but I noticed most were wfp and my game changer was buying the vans tank system and the rest is history.

Had to stop advertising and now get walk ups from where I'm cleaning. Everyday can be different, like yesterday I heard a hammering on the side of the house I was cleaning. Looked around and it was a pair of rooks inside the eaves trying to break a board of build a nest because the triangle bit of plywood had fallen off. After the clean I got ladder out of van and screwed the plywood back on. Wrote on card that I post that I fitted the plywood back on at the side of house. I do this all the time and my customers appreciate helping them out. Win win scenario.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by Slacky on Today at 05:23:42 am »
The first 5 years are hard because of all the equipment needed to run the business. I'm after that stage and could go all in and try and grow my customer base but I like doing other things so have got best of both worlds. I think ones age has alot to do with it. I'm near 60 now and just want to plod along and do 3 days a week window cleaning. In life, I never would have thought I would be a window cleaner its one of those trades that operates under the radar of life.

A lot of us started off with a jalopy, a ladder and a bucket. Nothing hard in that.

The hardest part for me was discipline, growing a round from bugger all and working with a ladder when the wind is coming in from the north and you’re squeeging.



I’m doing it all over again over here. But I have one thing on my side, self belief.  I know I know what I’m talking about out here now, a good proportion of my work coming in now is from recommendations. Doesn’t take long if you’ve already done it once.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by Stoots on Yesterday at 08:35:21 pm »

As for your question I would assume eveyone started off with no round who is now a cleaner ?

Yeah i get that, i meant who started off not knowing anything and learnt it all from here, getting jobs, scheduling, equiptment etc....

When i started facebook groups werent really a thing which i think is where most people go now for instant info.

I learnt from this forum, the other forum and watching a chap called wagga on your tube
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Overture
« Last post by dazmond on Yesterday at 06:16:57 pm »
Rob is a fantastic developer and im sure he's learnt his lesson from building cleaner planner then selling it on. We need software for window cleaning built for MTD integration and I think Rob  Morgan is the man to do it. I did download Squeegee but really didnt like it so im hoping overture will be the answer for me from April 2027.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by CleanClear on Yesterday at 06:14:49 pm »
In that list of guys who went from sole operator to a sucesfull business i was impressed by Ian Lancaster. Most of them are younger guys which you'd expect , if my memory is correct wasn't Lancaster in his late sixties when instead of winding down like most people of that age he done the opposite and expanded out into multi van franchise ? He was well in his 70's when he was last posting on here.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by CleanClear on Yesterday at 05:50:59 pm »

As for your question I would assume eveyone started off with no round who is now a cleaner ?

Yeah i get that, i meant who started off not knowing anything and learnt it all from here, getting jobs, scheduling, equiptment etc....
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by Scottish Cleaning Service on Yesterday at 03:53:55 pm »
I thought he was an Actor at first. I wonder how long it took him to make his first million?
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Lee Pryor
« Last post by deeege on Yesterday at 02:40:36 pm »
Fair play to him. To have the drive and ambition to get to 15+ vans is something very few of us have, myself included.
Always thought he came off as a bit of a nob when posting on here but recently listened to an interview with him and thought he came across really well.
Good luck to him and anyone else that grows to that size,
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