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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Non Vat Company stating VAT is in the price
« Last post by Spruce on Yesterday at 11:03:25 pm »
The only time one can use vat included phrase when they on fixed lower threshold of vat. It’s illegal to  have this wording  under any other circumstances. Vat number must be on paperwork clearly visible. This really frowned upon and they can have book thrown at easily.

Point this out to customer as if they are misrepresenting themselves in that way  what else they are not telling… it’s illegal to charge vat if not registered

I would expect him not to issue an invoice. If he did it will just be for the full quoted price as a single figure.
Ie. Roof cleaning as required  £10.50, total £10.50.
He would possibly also ask for cash and not write out a receipt.

However, one of the local window cleaners was vat registered even although his turnover didn't require him to be vat registered.

It could be that this chap has registered for vat, but hasn't presented his quote correctly. I would certainly give the 'pot a stir' and sow a few seeds of doubt in her mind.

One of my customers had a cleaner knock on their door. £5 a clean. My comment was at that price, is he looking for an opportunity to see what you own to burgle you?  Nothing wrong sowing seeds of doubt.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Non Vat Company stating VAT is in the price
« Last post by Smudger on Yesterday at 10:58:14 pm »
interesting .. thanks for the replies
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Non Vat Company stating VAT is in the price
« Last post by martinw on Yesterday at 10:01:59 pm »
The only time one can use vat included phrase when they on fixed lower threshold of vat. It’s illegal to  have this wording  under any other circumstances. Vat number must be on paperwork clearly visible. This really frowned upon and they can have book thrown at easily.

Point this out to customer as if they are misrepresenting themselves in that way  what else they are not telling… it’s illegal to charge vat if not registered
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: An accident.
« Last post by Ggh on Yesterday at 07:21:14 pm »
Bloody hell! Hope you’re on the mend .
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Safe contractor
« Last post by Ggh on Yesterday at 07:06:33 pm »
Better of doing SSIP type thing if there’s procurement hurdles.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Non Vat Company stating VAT is in the price
« Last post by Tam1872 on Yesterday at 04:40:13 pm »
Do you not need unique invoice numbers on your receipts so everything lines together when companies claim vat back etc ?.
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I offer it as an add on to my window cleaning business. I use the dentist chair in the back of my van.
Great way to keep customers.

You've got a dentist's chair?

I pull a trailer so that I can take customers' rubbish and fly-tip for profit.

Then I power wash it out and after lunch do brain surgery using the flat bed. It's only 6ft long so I can only do average height people as their heads are up against the tailgate which is rusted shut.

But it helps me retain customers.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Safe contractor
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Yesterday at 03:47:46 pm »
I had a firm before COVID in about 2018 wanted me to sign up and I got dispensation from the works manager as a sole trader.

Just after COVID they wanted me to sign up to some off site buyer who wanted me to pay £250 per annum to put my invoices through them.

Works manager couldn't swing it that time and I parted on civil terms with him but stiffly wrote a polite 'stuff you' to the buyers.

Last year the replacement works manager asked if I would go back and add the (now £350 buyers fee) to the bill.

I declined. But the work was 'only' £160 a month and took 4 hours. It had been useful on rainy days and early starts but nowadays I can get better rates per hour with nice Mrs. Ladies and their easygoing pay on the day terms.

But if I were younger and keener I might have negotiated.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Safe contractor
« Last post by Suffolkcleaners on Yesterday at 02:19:52 pm »
Hi
Talk to safe contractor for the price it varies
Its all  paperwork RAMS  /  insurance /   environmental policy / anti slavery
If you do not have the correct paperwork they will provide (sometimes for a cost)

There online  application  system is not easy , you should do it in a afternoon (allot of uploading )

The only issue is if you pay safe contractor and lose the job you lose money
ask the company you work for if you can put the price on

Just let mine expire use the FWC Safety Accredited Member


Bryan

Thank you. I’ve done the job for 15 years so for the sake of £400 a year or whatever it looks as though I will have to sign up. Thanks for your advice.

Ps I’ve also emailed the manager to double check as I’m a sole trader and want to make 100% sure they basically need me to sign up or I lose the job which I can not afford to.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: gardner extreme
« Last post by michael mckeary on Yesterday at 01:37:49 pm »
pole is fairly new top section is badly worn due to the clamp nut working loose

Use a bit of threadlock on the bolt.
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