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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Last post by Spruce on Today at 02:48:24 am »
We have 2 reported deaths and one serious injury according to the report.

 Unfortunately, sad as they are, we aren't told what the circumstances are around the two window cleaners who died.   If it's one I remember reading about, he was using an aluminium pole around electric cables.

There was a thread on one of the forums recently regarding electric cables and window cleaners. There where many posters who didn't know the difference between telephone cables and electricity supply cables. There's part of the problem; a lack of knowledge.

However, while we need to prevent all injuries and deaths, I'm sure that many can be avoided with a properly self imposed risk and method statement as Malc has stated.  Who does that?

Obviously the injured window cleaner can't work again as a window cleaner, but I remember both him and his dad were going to focus on awareness and safety regarding pole manufacture.

Pushing stuff through parliament at that level is just going to make it more difficult for manufacturers and it's window cleaners who will be affected in the end.

Gardiner's insulate the base pole section against electrical shock. If they, and others, are legislated to give the shock protection to the second pole that fits into the base pole, what happens when that fibreglass layer wears off/or wears thin and the carbon shows through?  We experienced that wear pattern with the clx range.

I know this sounds harsh, but people who wave a pole around bare supply lines only have themselves to blame when accidents happen imho.

We have a few old houses with bare supply cables. I clean the fronts of those houses (not my lad) and go through a mental action plan before I start cleaning the upstairs bedroom windows every time we clean them.

Unfortunately there's seems to be this two fold attitude among window cleaners in our area of how much money do I earn cleaning this house and how quickly can I do it. 'Time is money' can mean that basic safety procedures are overlooked.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Yesterday at 11:02:21 pm »
The scary thing is the poor window cleaner that got electricuted didn't even touch the cable with his pole...... :o

Because 33kv can jump. Especially in misty conditions.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Purefreedom Reelmaster
« Last post by KS Cleaning on Yesterday at 06:18:26 pm »
Purefreedom Reelmaster in powder coated steel ordered👍🏻

I would have waited till Boxing day, may get 10% off.
Black Friday would have been better but hadn’t decided on changing van at that point😩
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Last post by dazmond on Yesterday at 04:39:11 pm »
The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.

Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Last post by dazmond on Yesterday at 04:33:56 pm »
The scary thing is the poor window cleaner that got electricuted didn't even touch the cable with his pole...... :o
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Purefreedom Reelmaster
« Last post by Scottish Cleaning Service on Yesterday at 04:26:21 pm »
Purefreedom Reelmaster in powder coated steel ordered👍🏻

I would have waited till Boxing day, may get 10% off.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Yesterday at 04:18:29 pm »
The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....
Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.

Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: water meter
« Last post by Space monkey on Yesterday at 03:54:43 pm »
Thank you
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on Yesterday at 03:35:32 pm »
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-12-17/debates/D055A2C9-7E02-4741-A42E-962298B8AA16/WindowCleaningIndustryWorkplaceSafety

Wonder if we are about to be forced to buy compliant (no doubt more expensive) poles a that weigh a tonne

or made to complete a safety/training course ...

No we are not bgoing to be forced to buy compliant poles. The current guidance (pun attended) is to not put anything within 3 metres of a 33KV line. Electricity of that level can jump gaps.

Awareness and risk assessment are key.

If a mandatory training course came in (I don't see that either as mandatory training courses for ladders aren't a thing) then so be it.

One death or injury per year is too much. But it is incredibly low compared with ladders.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Purefreedom Reelmaster
« Last post by KS Cleaning on Yesterday at 03:28:24 pm »
Purefreedom Reelmaster in powder coated steel ordered👍🏻
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