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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by Splash and dash on Yesterday at 08:09:08 pm »
If you are going to get an extreme pole then put an extreme brush on it.

Doesnt seem much point buying the lightest pole available and putting a brick on it.

The supreame brushes aren’t heavy ,I found the extream brushes very poor no scrubbing power and they don’t like hot water , I have tried most brushes over the years and prefer the supreame, light , good scrubbing power , good splay and long bristles .

But they are heavier than the extreme brushes, so if you are looking for the lightest setup then why lift more than you have to. The extreme brushes are fine for maintenance cleans. Ive had lots of brushes also and whilst the heavier brushes do scrub better they arent worth the weight penalty.   95g brush vs 180g brush means about half a kilo more effective load on your arms.


Think you need to re evaluate your maths 1kg =1000 grams  half that gives you 500 grams the difference between the two brushes is 85 grams  , that’s not a lot ,if you can’t use a180 gram brush at an angle I don’t think a manual job is for you

Your maths is good but your physics not so much. Unless you are cleaning vertically then the weight at your arms is always going to be more than 85g. Half a kilo is an estimate based on the angles used in cleaning a window.

If I cant use a heavier brush then a manual job isnt for me .....That's an odd statement from someone who has gone to the expense of buying extreme poles to save weight. Why not just use and slx if its not an issue.

Slx poles are ok and I do have them but they are a bit whippy the extream is much stiffer . The weight of the brush at an angle obviously is greater but usually some of the weight is transferred to the window , I think a while ago you were going to the gym to work out ?  I doubt you were just lifting half a kilo so using a 180 grams brush should be quite easy ,again how many windows are you doing each day that are awkward and causing that much strain on the body ? Very few I expect, we all want to do the easiest jobs we can  but a bit of harder work is a good thing for your health and strength.

Yeh but you are missing the point, its not about not being able to lift it,  if you are buying an extreme pole you are obviously doing it to save weight on your body and make life easier so why then add a heavier brush to it when you can get a lighter one its defeating the object. 

Each to their own i like the extreme brushes.

Personally don’t feel it’s a heavy brush and it works well it’s the only brush we have found to last with hot water , we have tried the extream brushes and not keen on them they don’t have enough scrubbing power for baked on seagull poo , but as you say each to their own
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by Stoots on Yesterday at 06:50:07 pm »
If you are going to get an extreme pole then put an extreme brush on it.

Doesnt seem much point buying the lightest pole available and putting a brick on it.

The supreame brushes aren’t heavy ,I found the extream brushes very poor no scrubbing power and they don’t like hot water , I have tried most brushes over the years and prefer the supreame, light , good scrubbing power , good splay and long bristles .

But they are heavier than the extreme brushes, so if you are looking for the lightest setup then why lift more than you have to. The extreme brushes are fine for maintenance cleans. Ive had lots of brushes also and whilst the heavier brushes do scrub better they arent worth the weight penalty.   95g brush vs 180g brush means about half a kilo more effective load on your arms.


Think you need to re evaluate your maths 1kg =1000 grams  half that gives you 500 grams the difference between the two brushes is 85 grams  , that’s not a lot ,if you can’t use a180 gram brush at an angle I don’t think a manual job is for you

Your maths is good but your physics not so much. Unless you are cleaning vertically then the weight at your arms is always going to be more than 85g. Half a kilo is an estimate based on the angles used in cleaning a window.

If I cant use a heavier brush then a manual job isnt for me .....That's an odd statement from someone who has gone to the expense of buying extreme poles to save weight. Why not just use and slx if its not an issue.

Slx poles are ok and I do have them but they are a bit whippy the extream is much stiffer . The weight of the brush at an angle obviously is greater but usually some of the weight is transferred to the window , I think a while ago you were going to the gym to work out ?  I doubt you were just lifting half a kilo so using a 180 grams brush should be quite easy ,again how many windows are you doing each day that are awkward and causing that much strain on the body ? Very few I expect, we all want to do the easiest jobs we can  but a bit of harder work is a good thing for your health and strength.

Yeh but you are missing the point, its not about not being able to lift it,  if you are buying an extreme pole you are obviously doing it to save weight on your body and make life easier so why then add a heavier brush to it when you can get a lighter one its defeating the object. 

Each to their own i like the extreme brushes.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by Splash and dash on Yesterday at 03:39:05 pm »
If you are going to get an extreme pole then put an extreme brush on it.

Doesnt seem much point buying the lightest pole available and putting a brick on it.

The supreame brushes aren’t heavy ,I found the extream brushes very poor no scrubbing power and they don’t like hot water , I have tried most brushes over the years and prefer the supreame, light , good scrubbing power , good splay and long bristles .

But they are heavier than the extreme brushes, so if you are looking for the lightest setup then why lift more than you have to. The extreme brushes are fine for maintenance cleans. Ive had lots of brushes also and whilst the heavier brushes do scrub better they arent worth the weight penalty.   95g brush vs 180g brush means about half a kilo more effective load on your arms.


Think you need to re evaluate your maths 1kg =1000 grams  half that gives you 500 grams the difference between the two brushes is 85 grams  , that’s not a lot ,if you can’t use a180 gram brush at an angle I don’t think a manual job is for you

Your maths is good but your physics not so much. Unless you are cleaning vertically then the weight at your arms is always going to be more than 85g. Half a kilo is an estimate based on the angles used in cleaning a window.

If I cant use a heavier brush then a manual job isnt for me .....That's an odd statement from someone who has gone to the expense of buying extreme poles to save weight. Why not just use and slx if its not an issue.

Slx poles are ok and I do have them but they are a bit whippy the extream is much stiffer . The weight of the brush at an angle obviously is greater but usually some of the weight is transferred to the window , I think a while ago you were going to the gym to work out ?  I doubt you were just lifting half a kilo so using a 180 grams brush should be quite easy ,again how many windows are you doing each day that are awkward and causing that much strain on the body ? Very few I expect, we all want to do the easiest jobs we can  but a bit of harder work is a good thing for your health and strength.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Hose reel Tail Length
« Last post by Scottish Cleaning Service on Yesterday at 09:35:51 am »
Hi all, I have decided to run with the hotwater hose that came with the reel. Looking for any thoughts on length of 8mm PU hose that we attach to the heavy hotwater hose. The biggest wfp I run with is 47 feet so thinking about 60 feet because I run hoseless. All thoughts welcome.

Only you can answer this question as you know your round and parking issues.

There is only one customer we have now that we have to use the full 100 meters of hose on. For this reason, I wouldn't run anything less than 100 meters on my hose reels because of this one customer. Otherwise, I could get away with 60 meters.

Years back we had a council office block and children's day care centre which had a large ground footprint. We needed the full 100 meters to clean that property every 4 weeks. In fact, I had considered ordering a length of 150m of hose as that would have made that job so much easier. But I stuck with that job for 11 years before the council decided they could save money by employing their own window cleaning team they set up.

I was asking what amount of PU hose should I add to my 100m of hotwater hose. I join the PU hose to the 11mm hose with a recktas 21 fitting so that if I get a pinhole from a rose bush then I just replace the PU part. S&D runs with 25m's so I will try that and see how it goes. Thanks for the replies.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by Stoots on December 27, 2025, 11:27:37 pm »
If you are going to get an extreme pole then put an extreme brush on it.

Doesnt seem much point buying the lightest pole available and putting a brick on it.

The supreame brushes aren’t heavy ,I found the extream brushes very poor no scrubbing power and they don’t like hot water , I have tried most brushes over the years and prefer the supreame, light , good scrubbing power , good splay and long bristles .

But they are heavier than the extreme brushes, so if you are looking for the lightest setup then why lift more than you have to. The extreme brushes are fine for maintenance cleans. Ive had lots of brushes also and whilst the heavier brushes do scrub better they arent worth the weight penalty.   95g brush vs 180g brush means about half a kilo more effective load on your arms.


Think you need to re evaluate your maths 1kg =1000 grams  half that gives you 500 grams the difference between the two brushes is 85 grams  , that’s not a lot ,if you can’t use a180 gram brush at an angle I don’t think a manual job is for you

Your maths is good but your physics not so much. Unless you are cleaning vertically then the weight at your arms is always going to be more than 85g. Half a kilo is an estimate based on the angles used in cleaning a window.

If I cant use a heavier brush then a manual job isnt for me .....That's an odd statement from someone who has gone to the expense of buying extreme poles to save weight. Why not just use and slx if its not an issue.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by Splash and dash on December 27, 2025, 08:58:20 pm »
If you are going to get an extreme pole then put an extreme brush on it.

Doesnt seem much point buying the lightest pole available and putting a brick on it.

The supreame brushes aren’t heavy ,I found the extream brushes very poor no scrubbing power and they don’t like hot water , I have tried most brushes over the years and prefer the supreame, light , good scrubbing power , good splay and long bristles .

But they are heavier than the extreme brushes, so if you are looking for the lightest setup then why lift more than you have to. The extreme brushes are fine for maintenance cleans. Ive had lots of brushes also and whilst the heavier brushes do scrub better they arent worth the weight penalty.   95g brush vs 180g brush means about half a kilo more effective load on your arms.


Think you need to re evaluate your maths 1kg =1000 grams  half that gives you 500 grams the difference between the two brushes is 85 grams  , that’s not a lot ,if you can’t use a180 gram brush at an angle I don’t think a manual job is for you
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Purefreedom Reelmaster
« Last post by Stoots on December 27, 2025, 08:24:12 pm »
Why not just work christmas day and have done with it scottish, you could get a gold plated reel then  ;D
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by Stoots on December 27, 2025, 08:15:18 pm »
If you are going to get an extreme pole then put an extreme brush on it.

Doesnt seem much point buying the lightest pole available and putting a brick on it.

The supreame brushes aren’t heavy ,I found the extream brushes very poor no scrubbing power and they don’t like hot water , I have tried most brushes over the years and prefer the supreame, light , good scrubbing power , good splay and long bristles .

But they are heavier than the extreme brushes, so if you are looking for the lightest setup then why lift more than you have to. The extreme brushes are fine for maintenance cleans. Ive had lots of brushes also and whilst the heavier brushes do scrub better they arent worth the weight penalty.   95g brush vs 180g brush means about half a kilo more effective load on your arms.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Purefreedom Reelmaster
« Last post by tlwcs on December 27, 2025, 07:52:11 pm »
Reel arrived and mightily impressed. Looks, well built and will last a long time. All I need to do is put it together and fit it into the van. Will give an update when I begin using it. One thing I have found out in this game is that you have got to buy the best because everything takes a daily pounding.

One thing ive found in this game is window cleaners are a sucker for marketing, from £1200 hose reels to 5k for a tank with 2 pumps stuck on called a "system"  to gutter vacs that are a rebranded £500 generic machine with "gutter sucker" wrote on it for £1500  :D the list goes on.

Only thing taking a pounding is your wallet.

If you are making £300 to £400 a day then it makes sense to put it into equipment that makes life easier. At the end of financial year you will pay 30% tax anyway so it makes sense to run with the best. One thing I have found in this game, you only get what you put in. I was out yesterday and today cleaning and the tips kept coming as I chatted away to my customers. Will probably order another PF reel in the future because they are so good. Remember, equipment costs are only heading one way.

You were out cleaning residential on Boxing Day?
Completely believable, I also did a few. Scored a monkey, mostly cash that I overtrousered. Chatted to lots of customers about my mate who invented the hot water 5 man system that I use as a 1 man with 3 spare platinum electric reels, just in case the other 4 break.
I don’t care what you think I’m off to the pub with my mate Walter Mitty.
Cheers.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Light weight poles
« Last post by AuRavelling79 on December 27, 2025, 06:57:55 pm »
Xtreme is the way.

Wipe the hose when collapsing.
Wash through once a month and spray on some PTFE polish.

At about 9 months disassemble thoroughly clean and spray with lacquer.

At 18 months as above and new clamps.

Mine is still going at 3 years.

Be careful when tapping windows closed!
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