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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Johnny Coyle on January 06, 2010, 08:20:07 am
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
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well said johnny boy always something to do.
iam off to my local printers to get some flyers done, ;) ;) ;) ;)
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just got back from doing my shops :) now im going to be a kid in the snow with my kids :D
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Interesting title, however it will be the pros and not the part timers who will get hit the hardest. The part timers will have their benefits to fall back on or their 'proper' job to carry on with. They will be back down the firestation this afternoon whilst us professional windys will be struggling.
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Why would that set the pro's apart from the 'part-timers' a very blanket statement with no real basis of truth and not very helpfull.
People use this forum for many reasons. But I suspect one of those is a sense of belonging and the ability to exchange information, tips, tricks etc with those who are in the same profession. Also I would imagine that for many this type of work is lonely and the sense of 'esprit de corp' that this forum brings is very welcome.
But the constant sniping and quick one liner put-downs are not very helpful and sets those who do it 'apart'.
I for one get alot from this forum but remember it is give and take....
Cheers
Dave.
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cleared my car 20 times in three days it is minus 7 here during the day for the past week
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Why would that set the pro's apart from the 'part-timers' a very blanket statement with no real basis of truth and not very helpfull.
Perhaps I should change the title
To "this weather will seperate the Winners from the moaning loosers"
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
firstly the northern countries in europe get this every year! we dont, and spending millions on contigency plans and machinery to cope with this amount of snow is a total waste of money for the UK government, as most of the machines will sit idley in depots for years at a time.
Secondly, I rate my health and safety and that of my customers before making a measly £50!!
Thirdly if you do go out cleaning and leave salt on the footpath, you are liable for any accidents that may happen on that footpath.
So with this in mind, if you crash your van on the snow and ice or one of your customer sues you because they tripped or fell on the patch that you gritted then don't come on here crying!!
For how long this is said to last for, I have enough funds to last!!
I will be out leafleting today and tomorrow, but I doubt I will get any phone calls until end of February or March time.
Matt
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get some salt and grit some drive ways????? so do we levitate there???
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Well i know my customers well enough to realise that they wont appreciate me slashing water everywhere when it freezes easily and is peeing down with snow....professional or not (i dont claim benefits by the way ::)) i like MB think of my safety first.
It is frustrating for us not to be able to work so we certainly dont need clever dicks saying we are not professional...run your own business not others.
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firstly the northern countries in europe get this every year! we dont, and spending millions on contigency plans and machinery to cope with this amount of snow is a total waste of money for the UK government, as most of the machines will sit idley in depots for years at a time.
Secondly, I rate my health and safety and that of my customers before making a measly £50!!
Thirdly if you do go out cleaning and leave salt on the footpath, you are liable for any accidents that may happen on that footpath.
So with this in mind, if you crash your van on the snow and ice or one of your customer sues you because they tripped or fell on the patch that you gritted then don't come on here crying!!
For how long this is said to last for, I have enough funds to last!!
I will be out leafleting today and tomorrow, but I doubt I will get any phone calls until end of February or March time.
Matt
Another excuse
YOU are the very reason Eastern Europeans flock to Britain to work
Thank God your ancestors didnt think like you
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Well i know my customers well enough to realise that they wont appreciate me slashing water everywhere when it freezes easily and is peeing down with snow....professional or not (i dont claim benefits by the way ::)) i like MB think of my safety first.
It is frustrating for us not to be able to work so we certainly dont need clever dicks saying we are not professional...run your own business not others.
Well said Dan
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firstly the northern countries in europe get this every year! we dont, and spending millions on contigency plans and machinery to cope with this amount of snow is a total waste of money for the UK government, as most of the machines will sit idley in depots for years at a time.
Secondly, I rate my health and safety and that of my customers before making a measly £50!!
Thirdly if you do go out cleaning and leave salt on the footpath, you are liable for any accidents that may happen on that footpath.
So with this in mind, if you crash your van on the snow and ice or one of your customer sues you because they tripped or fell on the patch that you gritted then don't come on here crying!!
For how long this is said to last for, I have enough funds to last!!
I will be out leafleting today and tomorrow, but I doubt I will get any phone calls until end of February or March time.
Matt
Another excuse
YOU are the very reason Eastern Europeans flock to Britain to work
Thank God your ancestors didnt think like you
You been smoking pot!!
What the hell were you trying to state in that paragraph???
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
Yep the pro’s would have factored in bad weather, not to difficult at this time of year, it is Winter, and expect not to be able to work on those days. ::)
but when those days turn into weeks its a different story. I'm losing money hand over fist at the minute. Its not a case of factoring the cost, how could you know what the cost would be? Its good to have back up funds but if you can't work and you turn over a little bit it soon mounts up to a high figure. All the other overheads don't stop because the weather is real bad.
The weather will get better and things will go back to normal. just grit your teeth and bare it. Its all you can do really.
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I agree with a lot of what Matt has said. Far better to stay at home and wait till the weather improves.
Yes there are those that will say 'That's all well and good but I've got bills to pay'
Then perhaps a lesson has been learnt (albeit harshly) Try and have some funds available for next winter in case it happens again!
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The sign writing on my van says window cleaner not jack of all trades desperate for money.
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but when those days turn into weeks its a different story. I'm losing money hand over fist at the minute. Its not a case of factoring the cost, how could you know what the cost would be? Its good to have back up funds but if you can't work and you turn over a little bit it soon mounts up to a high figure. All the other overheads don't stop because the weather is real bad.
The weather will get better and things will go back to normal. just grit your teeth and bare it. Its all you can do really.
lol
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The sign writing on my van says window cleaner not jack of all trades desperate for money.
arn't they perceived to be the same thing? ;)
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firstly the northern countries in europe get this every year! we dont, and spending millions on contigency plans and machinery to cope with this amount of snow is a total waste of money for the UK government, as most of the machines will sit idley in depots for years at a time.
Secondly, I rate my health and safety and that of my customers before making a measly £50!!
Thirdly if you do go out cleaning and leave salt on the footpath, you are liable for any accidents that may happen on that footpath.
So with this in mind, if you crash your van on the snow and ice or one of your customer sues you because they tripped or fell on the patch that you gritted then don't come on here crying!!
For how long this is said to last for, I have enough funds to last!!
I will be out leafleting today and tomorrow, but I doubt I will get any phone calls until end of February or March time.
Matt
Another excuse
YOU are the very reason Eastern Europeans flock to Britain to work
Thank God your ancestors didnt think like you
I haven't seen any Eastern European window cleaners round my way today. Maybe it's something to do with the weather.
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firstly the northern countries in europe get this every year! we dont, and spending millions on contigency plans and machinery to cope with this amount of snow is a total waste of money for the UK government, as most of the machines will sit idley in depots for years at a time.
Secondly, I rate my health and safety and that of my customers before making a measly £50!!
Thirdly if you do go out cleaning and leave salt on the footpath, you are liable for any accidents that may happen on that footpath.
So with this in mind, if you crash your van on the snow and ice or one of your customer sues you because they tripped or fell on the patch that you gritted then don't come on here crying!!
For how long this is said to last for, I have enough funds to last!!
I will be out leafleting today and tomorrow, but I doubt I will get any phone calls until end of February or March time.
Matt
Another excuse
YOU are the very reason Eastern Europeans flock to Britain to work
Thank God your ancestors didnt think like you
You been smoking pot!!
What the hell were you trying to state in that paragraph???
Because you’re smart enough not to work in a snow blizzard, this alone is the main reason the foreigners are encourage to come to the UK.
Hope that explains it for you MB. ;D
For a second there I thought Johnny was blaming ME (on my own) for the amount of eastern European workers coming over here.
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Matt....how are you getting on building up your round.Your not that far from me,just wondered if them leaflets were working for you? :)
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Interesting title, however it will be the pros and not the part timers who will get hit the hardest. The part timers will have their benefits to fall back on or their 'proper' job to carry on with. They will be back down the firestation this afternoon whilst us professional windys will be struggling.
I agree with this in essence, once it thaws they'll be back out there, the difference between them and us is that we worry about the weather and how it affects our round/custards/income, they dont.
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
god your full of crap,i have a full round dont need to get more work,why go out and get injured for the sake of a few quid,soon as weather is right will be out full speed ahead,the pros put money aside in summer to cope with winter the part timers spend it all
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I agree with a lot of what Matt has said. Far better to stay at home and wait till the weather improves.
Yes there are those that will say 'That's all well and good but I've got bills to pay'
Then perhaps a lesson has been learnt (albeit harshly) Try and have some funds available for next winter in case it happens again!
This is my first winter and you're right this weather has been a good lesson for me.I won't be so unprepared next year (probably...).It's all well and good saying get out to work but in practise if it isn't possible it doesn't make you a loser or defeatist.I went out and found that the windows were freezing (regardless of whether it was trad or wfp) as soon as I was cleaning them.They looked ten times worse than when I started them and I can't see customers settling for that.I'm waiting on a heater to arrive to try heating the water to see if that helps but until then I'm not working.I think the OP is trying to suggest we're lacking some kind of Dunkirk spirit but it's common sense imo.Coming on here and insulting people isn't really helping the situation from what I can see.
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but when those days turn into weeks its a different story. I'm losing money hand over fist at the minute. Its not a case of factoring the cost, how could you know what the cost would be? Its good to have back up funds but if you can't work and you turn over a little bit it soon mounts up to a high figure. All the other overheads don't stop because the weather is real bad.
The weather will get better and things will go back to normal. just grit your teeth and bare it. Its all you can do really.
lol
;D ;D ;D Can you get that “grit in handy pocket size bags”?
(Triple Zero I’m not gritting or bearing anything ;D)
if the weather never gets better again you two could always take up a career as comedians ;D
i never realized what i posted, i guess my teeth would never get icy then eh? ;)
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but when those days turn into weeks its a different story. I'm losing money hand over fist at the minute. Its not a case of factoring the cost, how could you know what the cost would be? Its good to have back up funds but if you can't work and you turn over a little bit it soon mounts up to a high figure. All the other overheads don't stop because the weather is real bad.
The weather will get better and things will go back to normal. just grit your teeth and bare it. Its all you can do really.
lol
;D ;D ;D Can you get that “grit in handy pocket size bags”?
(Triple Zero I’m not gritting or bearing anything ;D)
if the weather never gets better again you two could always take up a career as comedians ;D
i never realized what i posted, i guess my teeth would never get icy then eh? ;)
Or freeze ;D
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get some salt and grit some drive ways????? so do we levitate there???
LOL
you will be told you should have a 4 x 4 and chains for tyres next
But im sure clearing driveways would pay for that
Id rather not risk writing off my car for a weeks money i can catch up
Its early in the year yet
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i agree with mb spraying a custys house wit water in this weather is probably the dumist thing ever,yeah we got public liability but how many claims u want?and as the roads aint bin gritted round ere its a death trap ,i no as i went through some1s garden wall the other day trying go to work,if u do go to work and cause someone injury knowin how bad it is u deserve everything u get sorry just way it is
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=87447.0
This answers your question
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like a lot on here i have my own home; so i use the time to paint or do renovating
then when the weather takes a turn for the better i can go out.
all my body parts will function no falling on ice; and my van will work hasnt been
crashed in ice or snow ;)
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.40a.m.? ;D
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.45a.m.? ;D
i reckon its his mrs spending all his money online ;)
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If your insurance doesn't cover your new ventures then no amount of grit will stop you sliding into prison if someone decides to trip or slip on the grit you have put down.
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Well Cozy is in Germany and I am in The Netherlands and were both affected by the weather...and I know a few window cleaners here in the south of The Netherlands are not able to work..it' -5 outside at the moment.
Far too many trolls on here at the moment.
Dave.
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Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.40a.m.
I am on the telephone talking to local 5* Hotels and have jobs lined up to clear and salt their carparks and driveways for between £100.00 and £250.00 a time ;D
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
If your insurance doesn't cover your new ventures then no amount of grit will stop you sliding into prison if someone decides to trip or slip on the grit you have put down
Are you for real?
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Matt....how are you getting on building up your round.Your not that far from me,just wondered if them leaflets were working for you? :)
Its going ok at the moment Dan, I still have 15,000 leaflets to shift, I wanted them done before the end of January as well.
Maybe get half that amount out if I'm lucky.
How is business your end?
Matt
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the only work I am going to try to get done this week are a few shops trad as I hav'nt done them since before xmas and if need be that will be on foot.
For me its not just the icey conditions but the driving and parking all over town. The going would be very slow with traffic chaos and I've invested too much in my van and equipment to risk damage to it or waste the deisel for little return.
This weather is a very rare occurance (we hope) and if it lasts a couple of weeks then so be it, my custies will still be there and so will the money, its just not in my pocket yet.
So sit back and have a well earned rest in the warm or enjoy the winter wonderland with ya kids
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Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.40a.m.
I am on the telephone talking to local 5* Hotels and have jobs lined up to clear and salt their carparks and driveways for between £100.00 and £250.00 a time ;D
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
If your insurance doesn't cover your new ventures then no amount of grit will stop you sliding into prison if someone decides to trip or slip on the grit you have put down
Are you for real?
Yeah, yeah! So why aren't you over there doing it? ;D ::)
BTW - How much snow have you got over there in mid-west Ireland?
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You will not catch me working out in this.
1. My health and safety is the most important. If I earned £100 quid but had a ladder slip and could not work for six months I would be right royally buggered.
2. Customers will not want their windows cleaned. Can you blame them?
3. The roads are dangerous and if my car skidded and hit a young child could I live with myself? NO
As this is my first winter full time I have learned to put more money aside.
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Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.40a.m.
I am on the telephone talking to local 5* Hotels and have jobs lined up to clear and salt their carparks and driveways for between £100.00 and £250.00 a time ;D
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
If your insurance doesn't cover your new ventures then no amount of grit will stop you sliding into prison if someone decides to trip or slip on the grit you have put down
Are you for real?
Jackanory comes to mind :)
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Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.40a.m.
I am on the telephone talking to local 5* Hotels and have jobs lined up to clear and salt their carparks and driveways for between £100.00 and £250.00 a time ;D
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
If your insurance doesn't cover your new ventures then no amount of grit will stop you sliding into prison if someone decides to trip or slip on the grit you have put down
Are you for real?
This industry is full of chancers like you who will do whatever it takes to make a few quid regardless of the consequences.
Your idea is a great one and fair play to you for 'thinking outside the box' but when it is people's property you are working on you need to make sure that
1 - you do the job right
2 - you are insured to do the job you do
don't worry, if the drive clearing work disappears, there is always gas work.
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=87447.0
This answers your question
Hey hey !!
Excuse me!
I have a copyright on that thread, if you wish to use it you'll have to either send me £35.00 or you'll be hearing from my lawyers.
;)
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35 quid up front? Now you have a new idea there Matt, better than clearin snow ;D
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To the original poster...
Can I be the first to say c0ck?
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To the original poster...
Can I be the first to say c0ck?
A doodle Do
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god listen to you lot moaning again.
theres always some worst off then what we are.think along those lines.
mb,
as for clearing footpath,and gritting.
ive just cleared 15 old people paths opposite me on a complex.why cause people like doctors, nurse and home help still have to get to these old people.ive also checked to see if they are all ok and have everything they need,
someone want to sue me cause they slip,then lets go to court,
thats why this country is in a state cause we all worry what one going todo (sue).
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Looking for clarification on liabilities on clearing snow, I found the following -
Your local authority is responsible for clearing snow and ice from the public highway and pavement. Under Section 41(1A) of the Highways Act 1980, the council must ensure that safe passage along a highway is not endangered by snow or ice. If the local authority fails to act, you can apply to the magistrates' court under the same legislation for an order to unblock the highway within a reasonable period - although such orders are very rare indeed.
Private landowners are not obliged to clear snow or ice from the highway, even if the road or pavement passes over their land. Indeed, from a legal point of view it may be risky for private individuals to clear these areas. By sweeping snow from one part of the pavement you can create a danger in another area and if someone is injured, you will be liable for negligence or nuisance.
On your own land, it is a different matter. You owe visitors a duty under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984 to take reasonable care to ensure that they are reasonably safe. This means that if you know someone (such as the postman) is likely to walk up your garden path, and you also know that the garden path is slippery, you must take reasonable steps to clear the path of snow and grit it if necessary.
However, you should not simply brush the snow from your path on to the public pavement. It is also a public nuisance to block the pavement of the road by sweeping snow from your property on to the highway.
Your neighbours are therefore quite right to clear their own paths, but are taking a legal risk in clearing the public pavement - no matter how public-spirited their actions may seem.
Mark Loveday is a barrister at Tanfield Chambers, 2-5 Warwick Court, London WC1R 5DJ. 020-7421 5300
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just a thought for you all, i took on a cleaning job that i do from 6am-9am 6days a week, now i took on this job incase i could not get out in the winter months well glad i did do it now £120 a week is better than northing i did not spend any of that money it was kept for the weeks in winter that i cant get out to work, i know this wont suit everybody as some of you start early on your jobs but even if you could get a little p/t job in evenings its something to keep you going,
well i started this job in june 09 and now have £2880 to keep me going its worked out all right for me i start this job 6am-9am have breakfast and do windows 10am-4pm
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just a thought for you all, i took on a cleaning job that i do from 6am-9am 6days a week, now i took on this job incase i could not get out in the winter months well glad i did do it now £120 a week is better than northing i did not spend any of that money it was kept for the weeks in winter that i cant get out to work, i know this wont suit everybody as some of you start early on your jobs but even if you could get a little p/t job in evenings its something to keep you going,
well i started this job in june 09 and now have £2880 to keep me going its worked out all right for me i start this job 6am-9am have breakfast and do windows 10am-4pm
Very sensible and forward thinking. i would have done similar but at 63 i only have the energy for window cleaning each day. Perhaps I should look for an admin type job as a second back up income :) - trouble is, I took up window cleaning to get away from admin after 48 years of it ;D
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Hey hey !!
Excuse me!
I have a copyright on that thread, if you wish to use it you'll have to either send me £35.00 or you'll be hearing from my lawyers.
;)
Now THAT'S thinking outside the box!
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This industry is full of chancers like you
Yeah Im a real chancer
10 staff and
£250,000 + sitting in my personal bank account
You boys are so easy to wind up
Any one that doesnt fit into your little World watching TV and playing on Xbox has iin your opinion got it wrong.
None of the big cleaning companies post on here it is not hard to see why
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someone found a use for the snow!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timdobson/sets/72157623024761529/
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Get out to work.
Buy some salt and clear some driveways. This is what running a business is like.
You have to think outside the box, its unbeleavble that many on this forum claim to be sitting at home watching TV or playing Xbox etc. when their is work to be done. Even if its spending the week phoning round getting more work.
We have the easiest climate to work in - the rest of northern europe has colder and deeper snow every year.
I am fed up with cannot cope Britain
I bet you cant stand jazz ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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None of the big cleaning companies post on here it is not hard to see why
No mate, but you are. The sign of a great man, is how he treats lesser men. Blowing your own trumet on here will always get a reaction. A few of us open new profiles on here to wind up others for fun. You got a result on this one didn't you? ;)
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None of the big cleaning companies post on here it is not hard to see why
Which is why you post on here.
Anyway, lets have some pics then of you clearing carparks.
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Ive got 10 staff and £250,000 in the bank too thats why im at home plying on my xbox ;D
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Ive got 10 staff and £250,000 in the bank too thats why im at home plying on my xbox ;D
Bung us a few quid mate if this snow don't melt? ;D ;D ;D
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250k in your personal account . if your such an astute business man why isnt it invested somewhere instead of in a personal bank account earning 0.5% interest.
Personally i would rather be at home with my two kids enjoying the snow , but maybe thats because i got a life outside work
think i will stick to being a part timer , a professional one at that
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250k in your personal account . if your such an astute business man why isnt it invested somewhere instead of in a personal bank account earning 0.5% interest.
Personally i would rather be at home with my two kids enjoying the snow , but maybe thats because i got a life outside work
think i will stick to being a part timer , a professional one at that
your a professional something ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yep a part time professional amateur ;D
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firstly the northern countries in europe get this every year! we dont, and spending millions on contigency plans and machinery to cope with this amount of snow is a total waste of money for the UK government, as most of the machines will sit idley in depots for years at a time.
Secondly, I rate my health and safety and that of my customers before making a measly £50!!
Thirdly if you do go out cleaning and leave salt on the footpath, you are liable for any accidents that may happen on that footpath.
So with this in mind, if you crash your van on the snow and ice or one of your customer sues you because they tripped or fell on the patch that you gritted then don't come on here crying!!
For how long this is said to last for, I have enough funds to last!!
I will be out leafleting today and tomorrow, but I doubt I will get any phone calls until end of February or March time.
Matt
Another excuse
YOU are the very reason Eastern Europeans flock to Britain to work
Thank God your ancestors didnt think like you
You been smoking pot!!
What the hell were you trying to state in that paragraph???
Because you’re smart enough not to work in a snow blizzard, this alone is the main reason the foreigners are encourage to come to the UK.
Hope that explains it for you MB. ;D
For a second there I thought Johnny was blaming ME (on my own) for the amount of eastern European workers coming over here.
He wasn't - but the snow is definitely all your fault.
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Get out to work yourself, Johnny Coyle! Why is your little green "on line" indicator showing at 9.40a.m.
I am on the telephone talking to local 5* Hotels and have jobs lined up to clear and salt their carparks and driveways for between £100.00 and £250.00 a time ;D
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
If your insurance doesn't cover your new ventures then no amount of grit will stop you sliding into prison if someone decides to trip or slip on the grit you have put down
Are you for real?
Jackanory comes to mind :)
More like Playschool. Wonder what shaped window he's going to clean today.
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well im in the same boat as you although our snow isnt as bad as you have in england well not yet but the frost is bad enough, i just dont know whether to go out tomorrow and TRY or just leave it.
When I went out door knocking yesterday it warmed up and sleeted a bit so the worse of the snow on roads melted,I wished i had gone cleaning instead of door knocking,but then I slipped twice on peoples drives and was glad I hadn't.fresh downfall of snow last night,had van filled and heater in there but no go again today,I will try again tomorrow.I am going to do a few half days on Saturdays so should catch up easily as I not got many customers anyway,also I am hoping to pick up work when people at home see me on a Saturday
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I don't think this weather will separate the pros from the 'cowboys', but I think it'll sort out whose good at saving spare cash and who isn't.
Saying that, I'm using my overdraft right now, but its a fairly big overdraft and there's enough in there to cover January's end of month bills and food.
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I just got my part this morning and am trying to decide whether i should write the last 2 days of this week off and start again next week or just get out there and get some done, ive 10 or so houses to get done by end of this week and then next week im flat out, i also want to get out and get some new work by end of month too, not easy, arggghh :)
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If I had only an inch or two fall then I would work around it, I had 14inches fall last night alone. Over the last 3 weeks it has snowed every day, add to that the temprature only getting above freezing on a couple of ocasions.
I have been out clearing snow for an elderly neighbour and my parents who live close by, but I wouldn't dream of charging for it. If some folk want to go and offer a snow clearing service then good luck, but if your able to get your car or van on the roads then tells me it's not to severe.
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My overdraft period ran out and my bank will not renew it as I have just become self-employed and not earning enough,so I am having to live off my girlfriend,never been in this position before,I have always been the main or only bread winner in previous relationships,feel uneasy using her money,But its helping me focus on building my round up so I can be independant again,wanted to go to darts at pub tonight,but don,t want to waste any money :(
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ha!ha!johnny boy just likes to wind u all up to get a reaction!the last thing i will be doing is canvassing! ;D ;D.at this rate all my 320 custys will be due by the end of next week!! ::) ::) :-\ ;) :) ;D.just gotta ride the bad weather out!
went out for a walk for half hour yesterday and everywhere is deserted!!really peaceful and surreal!
THE WHOLE COUNTRY HAS COME TO A STANDSTILL!! ;D ;D
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Is it true Johnny that your daddy did all the work setting up the family business so that you can sit on your rear taking potshots at people on here? Sounds like a massive inferiority complex to me...
;D
Anyway, why don't you go and clear those hotels of snow like you were boasting about three hours ago?
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I feel sorry for the Jocks (even though I'm not keen on Scottish people). Its got to be tough being a Jock window cleaner; Spring doesn't arrive North of Berwick till about July.
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I feel sorry for the Jocks (even though I'm not keen on Scottish people). Its got to be tough being a Jock window cleaner
Yea can you imagine that, trying to get money of out a tight jock who doesnt even speak English!
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I feel sorry for the Jocks (even though I'm not keen on Scottish people). Its got to be tough being a Jock window cleaner; Spring doesn't arrive North of Berwick till about July.
Hey unfair. We had a lovely hot summer last year, I remember it well it was a Thursday and I was off all day ;)
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i have very little in the bank but weather conditions make it impossible for me to work
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the name of this site shoud be changed to "BuildItUp"
I said build it up and start again good name for a song that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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this thread must go down in the "CIU spoof hall of fame "
the pro's will be out clearing and gritting hotel car parks ;D ;D
well done, i guess the PL insurance has that included
what the hell is wrong with people, get out with your children ( if you have any ) and enjoy the snow, we have been out twice allready this morning on the sledges ( just came in as we got cold again ) will warm and get out and have another go
if you dont have children, then just put your feet up and relax
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Just a small comment to this thread,
been out , first back road my van got stuck... got it pulled out,
but i tried again further down the road.... stuck again , but got out ok...
impossible to clean window in this...totally!
delivered some leaflets, but felt cleaning windows would be the last thing on peoples minds in this stuff!.
but hoped they may save the leaflet at least..so that kept me going.
Around a foot of snow here , everywhere.
So , i am a full timer..... this weather does not seperate us from part timers.
it stops us working... all of us.
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this thread must go down in the "CIU spoof hall of fame "
the pro's will be out clearing and gritting hotel car parks ;D ;D
well done, i guess the PL insurance has that included
what the hell is wrong with people, get out with your children ( if you have any ) and enjoy the snow, we have been out twice allready this morning on the sledges ( just came in as we got cold again ) will warm and get out and have another go
if you dont have children, then just put your feet up and relax
very true, although i remember this time last year not being able to woerk and not having money and bank turning down my requests for help as it was the height of the recession
this year i am ok money wise just stresses that its such a bad start to the year when i was looking forward to a good head start
still it wont last forever
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holidays, inc xmas... bad weather... all has to be taken into account in a business such as this.
money needs to be set aside for this, it should be in your framework or business plan when setting up.
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tweedledum,why do you hate jocks?
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tweedledum,why do you hate jocks?
I don't, not really, its just a 'standing joke' with me that I do. I'm a Geordie, do you remember the 'Jocks and the Geordies' in the Dandy comic? Or was it the Beezer? They were always fighting each other.
Anyway, I can't really dislike Jocks, since they're related to me by birth. I mean you wouldn't have a Jock if it wasn't for a Geordie going over the border and copulating with a pig.
And that is historical fact, I think it happened in AD 201, and the Geordie was a Shield's lad who was minging drunk.
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ah but we got revenge by plundering the geordie lassies on our frequent pilgrimages to the meat market,sorry big market ;)
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thought all window cleaners are part time ;D
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end of the day if the wether conditions are to bad,which atm they are,then no matter how big and sucessfull you think your buisness is,you aint goin nowhere! ;D
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Be safe and Be warm
And do the insides
Yes it is easier if you have commercial than domestic but you can still do it
By doing the insides for our clients they appreciate the customer service and are happy to pay their monthly acccount as they understand how difficult the weather situation makes thngs
How often do your clients have the insides cleaned, especialy the really difficult awkward roof velux or annex windows, they love it.
Inside conservatory roofs is another good one
Offer to do those awkward and occasional, time consuming, inside jobs that "get in our way" when the sun is shining and we are too busy
Jack of all trades never but there are always ways, safe ways, to keep working earning a few bob and most importantly spoiling our clients
Gordon
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why is it a refreshing post????
i do were uniform and id cards ect ect do isay that makes everyone who doesnt a cowboy??? no.......im actually glad they dnt has it helps me stand out and continue to grow(not bragging just showing littl things help you stand out and CAN help you grow)
I have one large client who have picke up 7 largisg sites from because i look proffesional and trustworthy and do a good job.
lets not put evryone in the same boat, if you dont wont to were uniform or run your business different that is your choice.............its your business...................but how do you know if it will help unless you try??
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why is it a refreshing post????
i do were uniform and id cards ect ect do isay that makes everyone who doesnt a cowboy??? no.......im actually glad they dnt has it helps me stand out and continue to grow(not bragging just showing littl things help you stand out and CAN help you grow)
I have one large client who have picke up 7 largisg sites from because i look proffesional and trustworthy and do a good job.
lets not put evryone in the same boat, if you dont wont to were uniform or run your business different that is your choice.............its your business...................but how do you know if it will help unless you try??
do you look down on the avergage joe who drives a estate car and wears jeans though ? ? ? ?
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my dad is the average joe who wears jeans and drives an estate.......................i know many like him who look down there noses at me though!!
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my dad is the average joe who wears jeans and drives an estate.......................i know many like him who look down there noses at me though!!
i meant that are window cleaners
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I notice a few have a go at Ronnie Paton on this and other threads, and i can never see what he's said that is so bad.
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I didn't work today.
I enjoyed sledging with the family.
But I would have worked hadn't I dodged the ECU on the quad trying to fit towbar elecrics.
All fixed now,(phew just needed resetting, not £1100 for a new one!)
So anybody can clean at -4 with an L5.
And anybody can get to the windows with a quad.
So why shouldn't we clean the windows if we can?
Custies have agreed to every 6 weeks & if you've invested in gear that lets you do that, then hey, this is professional!
And I don't wear a uniform. I wear a cowboy hat & jeans.
Kevin.
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my dad is a window cleaner, i dont need to look down at them tat is how i earnt my trade but i wanted to better my self and have.
how many largish companies dont have sign written vans uniform procedures and proffesionalism???
Maybe none........i would like to contnue to grow so i do things the right way in my eyes.
Why do you keep asking matt?
Stephen it must be good being in your drugged up world that your in.....i mean to believe ronne corbet would have nothing better to do than come on cleanitup...........
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Ronnie...I just found Simbo's post refreshing as I felt he just shot from the hip and unloaded his truth which I agreed with, perhaps the directness made me smile and chuckle a bit.
But it very much sounded like the chewing out my g/f gave me over the weekend when I was in my 'feel sorry for me as I am not working mood' . And upon reflection for me both my g/f and Simbo made sense.
Cheers
Dave.
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Well sod that, I'm not going out and risking my van&Equipment. I spent the day with my wife and 4 month Daughter. I'm making most of this these months while my wife is on maternity leave. And i have got F... ALL in the Bank. Tomorrow i will be doing the same and watching England in the Cricket.
This is all making me feel better as i am not working, but feel i am motivated beyond anyone else here.When i do work the hammer will most certainly go down, and then we'll see who are men and who are boys.
A few have posted that they have bills to pay and i feel sorry for these.When we can work get a mate to help catch up and see if you can earn more.
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Did any of you seee news this evening an old timer, Burt cleaning windows in 9 in of snow.
He just got on with it, if he can do it so can you.
We have not missed one day due to the snow, admittedly we have not got it as bad as some of you, but we just crack on regardless.
First thing we do is thaw everything out then get to work, if the water freezes on the brush, we use extention poles.
We had a complaint on Monday, went to investigate at 4.00pm and the water we put on the windows at 10.00 am was still there frozen solid on the pane.
That wasn't the complaint though, it was a tiny bird muck spot.
Some people, I don,t know
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Does anyone know Burt ?
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This is all making me feel better as i am not working, but feel i am motivated beyond anyone else here.When i do work the hammer will most certainly go down, and then we'll see who are men and who are boys.
A few have posted that they have bills to pay and i feel sorry for these.When we can work get a mate to help catch up and see if you can earn more.
why do you feel you are motivated beyond anyone else here slump?
i would say 99% of us would get out there and work if was remotely possible,
i got stuck in the van a couple of times today before giving it up to deliver leaflets instead.
but i dont feel good about myself for doing it, i felt peed off that i could not work in the usual way....but i certainly would not think bad of anyone who stayed at home in this weather.
So i dont think motivation is the key in this big freeze, hence people are lightheartedly commenting on how they are spending their extra days off,
Some are struggling financially and worrying about how to pay the bills and feed the family, ..also it may be hard for people to save all year for a weeks holiday, let alone put money aside for bad weather....i know in my case, some months i just about cover everything with nothing left to put aside.
I hope this weather changes very quickly for us all... but especially for the people struggling to keep their families going... straight after an expensive christmas.. which includes time off work, and now this big freeze forcing us to stay at home again.
Its tough at the moment.
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Does anyone know Burt ?
seen that dave,he did say cold with the wet scrims.
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He was an expert squeegie man wasn't he lol.
I reckon he was wfp but has switched to squeegies for the bad weather.
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Good points Gazza.
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This is all making me feel better as i am not working, but feel i am motivated beyond anyone else here.When i do work the hammer will most certainly go down, and then we'll see who are men and who are boys.
A few have posted that they have bills to pay and i feel sorry for these.When we can work get a mate to help catch up and see if you can earn more.
why do you feel you are motivated beyond anyone else here slump?
i would say 99% of us would get out there and work if was remotely possible,
i got stuck in the van a couple of times today before giving it up to deliver leaflets instead.
but i dont feel good about myself for doing it, i felt peed off that i could not work in the usual way....but i certainly would not think bad of anyone who stayed at home in this weather.
So i dont think motivation is the key in this big freeze, hence people are lightheartedly commenting on how they are spending their extra days off,
Some are struggling financially and worrying about how to pay the bills and feed the family, ..also it may be hard for people to save all year for a weeks holiday, let alone put money aside for bad weather....i know in my case, some months i just about cover everything with nothing left to put aside.
I hope this weather changes very quickly for us all... but especially for the people struggling to keep their families going... straight after an expensive christmas.. which includes time off work, and now this big freeze forcing us to stay at home again.
Its tough at the moment.
my advice to people who are struggling with this cold snap, get online and fill out a credit card application, pay a few bills of with it, and pay it off in the next few months, no harm done
i await the " its a slippery slope down " posts, but needs must
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It is a slippery slope, but I salted mine so Im okay ;)
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Alot of us are sitting on here too long in the last few days. Frustrations are coming to the surface now, I personally have real problems getting any WC work done since Dec 23rd. We have invested in alot of new kit lately. Money is tight and all that blah blah.
It's been in some cases upto 3 weeks since some of you boys have worked. What we don't need is "Hero stories" about how some of us who bashed on regardless, especially, when it's plus 3 degrees in their home town and you haven't got water freezing on glass or your kit falling apart because of cold damage.
Simbo and Gazzasp8 have hit the nail on the head in this thread on page 5 and 6. Ego's tend to get abit over inflated on here, but lets just remember, this white stuff will be gone in a few days (Hopefully). Let's try and not make enemies with people just to be heroes eh?
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Alot of us are sitting on here too long in the last few days. Frustrations are coming to the surface now, I personally have real problems getting any WC work done since Dec 23rd. We have invested in alot of new kit lately. Money is tight and all that blah blah.
It's been in some cases upto 3 weeks since some of you boys have worked. What we don't need is "Hero stories" about how some of us who bashed on regardless, especially, when it's plus 3 degrees in their home town and you haven't got water freezing on glass or your kit falling apart because of cold damage.
Simbo and Gazzasp8 have hit the nail on the head in this thread on page 5 and 6. Ego's tend to get abit over inflated on here, but lets just remember, this white stuff will be gone in a few days (Hopefully). Let's try and not make enemies with people just to be heroes eh?
i worked yesterday for over 1 hour ;)
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=87399.0
but the temp was just above freezing
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Yes Matt, that's the point, just above freezing, some of the guys on here have minus 5 and 6, then we get stuff like "Well it hasn't effected me" or "Why not scrim". Some of these guys started WFP and have no choice. That's what I'm trying to get across mate. Did you read Simbo's post or Gazza's?
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Yes Matt, that's the point, just above freezing, some of the guys on here have minus 5 and 6, then we get stuff like "Well it hasn't effected me" or "Why not scrim". Some of these guys started WFP and have no choice. That's what I'm trying to get across mate. Did you read Simbo's post or Gazza's?
indeed i did, i even quoted them and replied
i agree with simbos post, CIU has a few posters who you just need to take with a large pinch of salt ( go on MB , another salt joke lined up for you ;))
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I like big Steven, and he is big. Look I dont post here too much but some of you guys just dont seem to get him at all. Take a step outside the bathroom. His posts can be as funny and as insulting as they come, BUT, he has the ability to laugh and make fun of his own depretiation, ie he tells us he likes a spliff or 3, he makes fun of scousers of which he is one, some of his comments run himself down more than they do anybody who they may be targetted to.
In short, the guy is funny as hell and sharp witted and can take just as much as he gives.
My impression is he just likes a laugh and is a natural poop stirrer ;D.
For me he makes a welcome change on forums from "what kind of dishy soap is best for stinky jobby underpants" type posts.
Give him as good as you get and I bet you will at some point end up laughing. Which is what he really wants to do by default.
Do you know what kind of dishy soap is best for stinky jobby underpants jobs please mate?
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Was this an area that Johnny Coyle cleared?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MPRmOUxRMY
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Why has my post been removed?
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Was this an area that Johnny Coyle cleared?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MPRmOUxRMY
Trying to jump out when the car starts to skid!If you're going to go out in it you must at least know how to drive.The last thing you do if you skid on ice is stamp your foot on the brake.Goes against instinct though,I must admit.
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Hello All,
All I can say on this matter is be POSITIVE.
Don't dwell on the negatives.
I'm sure we can all find something constructive to do during this short cold snap.
Happy New Year anyway.
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wise words Bungle
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Matt....how are you getting on building up your round.Your not that far from me,just wondered if them leaflets were working for you? :)
Its going ok at the moment Dan, I still have 15,000 leaflets to shift, I wanted them done before the end of January as well.
Maybe get half that amount out if I'm lucky.
How is business your end?
Matt
Sorry matt...just see the reply.
Slow down this end,but only to be expected.I am having a big push this year on gutters,fascias etc....leaflets and local newspaper advertising will be the way to go for me.
;)
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Has Johnny boy been on holiday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PApZm9-rwFc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJGQ59ukrs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXQLnP3dCFE&feature=related
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Why has my post been removed?
cause it was rubbish ;D ;D ;)
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And i thought you were a nice bloke ;D...LOL
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Yet another thread where someone gets a few digs then many jump in. It's great that there's a computer screen to hide behind. ::)