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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: YWCS on June 24, 2009, 05:25:40 pm
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A guy who used to work for me (left due to serious illness) lives across the road from our lasses grandad. the other day he went over and cleaned his front window cos some kids had thrown eggs at it. whilst he was talking to the old boy he found out that he had a window cleaner but he had told him he couldn't get the egg off, so he had left that window!!! :o :o :o :o
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I would like to say unbelievable but that really does not surprise me. I hope the old boy boots this guy into touch..
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I charge extra for egg on windows, as it buggers all ya stuff up
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i would charge extra it will take longer, just like cleaning after building work.
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how the hell can ye charge extra? yer paid a set fee to clean the windows.
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You know what? I've actually never cleaned off egg of a window! Must be a good neighborhood around here! Wonder if soaking it with wfp first, then do all the other windows would work. Otherwise scraper will do fine.
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Egg on window?
Egg on toast for me in the morning. ;D
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how the hell can ye charge extra? yer paid a set fee to clean the windows.
i call it maintenace, i maintain the windows(regular cleaning) now if it takes more than a maintenace clean ie first clean or after a builder i may charge more depending on custmomer and time taken......thats how
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Hardened egg on glass will take forever to get off, it will give you the boak because of the vile stink when it softens, there is almost nothing worse than egg to clean of glass. Then when you have been daft enough to have done it, your equipment will be covered in the smelly awfull stuff. Charge more and explain youv not priced enough to clean that stuff. You will regret it if you dont. >:(
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I cleaned a hell of a lot of eggs off windows when the miners strike was on, I never charged extra but it stunk the high heavens, and had to change me scraper blade alot.
Aye there were no reach & wash in them days........... I think I'll have a Worther's Original and get meself away for an early night ;D
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I charge extra for egg on windows, as it buggers all ya stuff up
Are you pulling my chain?
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dont take much for Ian to bump up the price :D
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how the hell can ye charge extra? yer paid a set fee to clean the windows.
thats how i look at the job,only time i refused to clean a window was when vomit was all over it and it had come from the inside
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what about bird crap? is that extra too?
is for Ian ;D ;D ;D
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that sick stinks dont it :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I charge extra if I have to switch my water on.
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that sick stinks dont it :'( :'( :'( :'(
it had been on for over a week so no smell ,just set on ,told his mum why i missed it and he had it cleaned off on my next visit ;D ;D
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You big set of puffs!!
Never heard so much bollox over a foookin' egg!!
It's an egg, E-G-G. EGG! Clean it off or p off. That's the response you'd get from me if you tried to charge me more! ;)
this is the reaction you get when people do something different, if that was your attituide you would of been dumped ages ago.......simples
i clean windows if they have upset some one enough to get there windows egged then sort it them selves or pay extra(espeicially if its stuck up gob pooe customer)
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I clean windows, most 99% of the time it's easy , egg bird crap etc JFDI , girl thingys
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sometimes they put super-glue in the egg with a syringe so it's impossible to get off!!
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"who's that coming up the drive with a chemical warfare suit on?"
"Oh, it's just the window cleaner, we've a drop of yolk on one of the windows"! ;D
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Did one a few weeks ago one off job, one egg + one pane of glass = £35 ;D
Could work for free, but that would be stupid ::)
That is working for free, you're way too cheap on your one offs!
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Five minute detour, ten minutes to do the work five minutes extra travelling to next job 20 minutes total, fair price?
Answer phone- 10
Detour- 15
10 mins work- 25
travel to next job- 10
You're almost half price, I would sub to you if you were nearer though! ;)
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did one the other day...didnt charge any eggstra.......all part of the job :)
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All these years and clearly I've been missing a trick with all this charging extra for a minute or two's extra work.
Builders cleans are different. If they can't be ar-ed to protect windows before throwing cement, plaster, paint etc all over the place then they can pay more. Some brat throwing an egg an an OAPs place is an opportunity for a PR exercise......tips, recommendations etc
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Did one a few weeks ago one off job, one egg + one pane of glass = £35 ;D
Could work for free, but that would be stupid ::)
greedy numpty ;D
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Like Neil Williams says its good for customer relations etc
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i clearly have a lot to learn!
i did a first clean the other day and she had about a dozen eggs thrown over her windows that had been on there since halloween and i only charged her £4 for the front of her house
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i clearly have a lot to learn!
i did a first clean the other day and she had about a dozen eggs thrown over her windows that had been on there since halloween and i only charged her £4 for the front of her house
Ewan would have charged £420 for the eggs alone ;D ;D
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sometimes they put super-glue in the egg with a syringe so it's impossible to get off!!
i dont clean egg off glass it cracks me up ;D ;D ;D
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YWCS would you clean all the weathered stains off the frames as part of the window cleaning price? lol ;D
I charge accordingly, if theres dried egg over the windows, and it takes longer than the clean you priced for, you charge more.
Time is money.
Matt
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Did one a few weeks ago one off job, one egg + one pane of glass = £35 ;D
Could work for free, but that would be stupid ::)
Yes, I can just imagine how that went.
Custy "I've got egg on my window, can you clean it please?"
WC "Yes, I'm only 5 minutes away, I'll be there in a moment"
Custy "Oh good"
WC cleans 1 plate glass window in 10 mins, "35 quid please"
Custy "That's fantastic, thank you for taking 24.75 minutes from your busy day, would you come back and clean that window again if there is any bird poo etc on it?"
WC "Yes Ma'am, just doing my job" (Mission impossible theme plays in the background as WC zooms off in his batmobile)
I think someone here works in Sainsbury's filling shelves and pretending to be a window cleaner. If this person had a fatal accident and an autopsy was performed, the pathologist would remove the top of his skull and find a 1/4 pound of boiled rice.
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Quote, YWCS
“These rare occurrences should be factored into your regular pricing structure. Add 25p to every price you give, then any eggy attacks are paid for!! Most jobs will never get egged anyway!!”
Good points, I don’t have any problem with what you have said.
You shouldn’t knock people for charging the customer extra for removing any egg on the windows, if you are charging your entire customer base for this service and they many never have egg on there windows!
(Cozy you’re a numpty ;D)
No need to use offensive words like that Ewan. It just makes me wonder how a guy that has only been in this window shining game for about 18 months feels that blokes who have been doing this for more than 20 years will benefit from your endless wisdome.
If someone gladly hands over 35 quid for you to scrape a sheet of glass clean for 10 minutes, then good luck.
I just find that what you post to be total cow poo, that's all, no need to resort to swearwords, shows weakness.
I don't think you are a window cleaner though. Judging by your posts, you want to give the impression that you were some sort of white collar office bod with some degree of some sort.
An example would be when someone posts a question about prices, and you don't agree with an answer, that person is WRONG. It should always be your price that is right.You've been giving advice on here since 2 months of coming on and you have never been wrong yet.
What an amazing businessman. Alan Sugar would love you working for him.
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It can commonly be observed with Ewan that he believes his opinion is fact. Opinions are not factual but are likely to be subjective....
Which IMO therefore means he is deluded, fact ;D
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Like Neil Williams says its good for customer relations etc
If that’s true, don’t charge for cleaning the customer’s windows.
What you on about Ewan..........really clever thing to say that !!
If im there cleaning the customers windows and there s egg on one of them, then how easy is it to get the scraper from the van, scrape it off and hey presto!
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Ewan's obviously eggsaderating as usual. ::)
"Come on Ewan get off that laptop your tea's on the table"
"and I want you to get your homework done before bed!"
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Was that an "agree"??
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35 quid for one pane of glass. one egg ? i would have expected a lemon merangue pie on it for that price.
ewan thats a result.
but heres something to think about, if someone phoned me for a quote and told me that they where charged that much money, then they asked do i think thats a bit expensive, (people ask me all the time if what they pay is too much), what would i say, what would you say. what would all the others say.
this is a time of recession, customers are not just cash cows there to be milked.
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I've just been to Tescos, I have around four hundred eggs and my son has agreed to take my round book and egg all my customers tonight. I'm thinking of around £200 per hour tomorrow.
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proberly lucky if you gwt 4.50 a hour
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Ewan's obviously eggsaderating as usual. ::)
"Come on Ewan get off that laptop your tea's on the table"
"and I want you to get your homework done before bed!"
:D :D :D
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Did one a few weeks ago one off job, one egg + one pane of glass = £35 ;D
Could work for free, but that would be stupid ::)
would have been cheaper for the customer to put a new piece of glass in
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;D ;D ;D
Brilliant.
Perspective.................now theres a thing youre yet to learn about at school Ewey.
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Any one charge extra for danger money cos of sam and ella or bird flu . going to charge extra for pig muck on windows with swine flu about
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Why does she need a new frame to have glass replaced? ??? So everyone who disagrees with your posts is "blunt"? What do you mean by that Ewan?.
I'm convinced you aren't a WC at all. I recon you are in loads of forums like decoraters weekly, Pilots forum, and Greengrocers united etc.
You never ask anything Ewan, just spout "advice" . Never give any anecdotes of your day etc. That's because you really work a forklift truck for Sainsbury's in the warehouse.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.................................
You have read a few "self help" books and try to come accross as the "man to ask", all you really leave as an impression, is that of Norris in corrie, the guy in the paper shop.
Give a man enough rope, you know the rest.
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That's the sort of short meaningless answer I mean. Give me a clue, where do I find your website, or your entry in yellow pages or any other contact? What's your meaning with "blunt"? Why do you avoid answers? Why would the custy need new frames to change the glass? Why do you pretend to be a WC? ???
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Because (the kindest way of putting it) he wants to be seen to be able to run before he can walk.
The knowledge of someone with 15 years knowledge when he's only got 2 is another way.
The experience of someone with 15 years experience when he's only got 2 is also another way.
2 years experience cleaning windows? Doubtful.
Cozy did you ever know Davo, he used to come on here and talk twaddle but admitted he wasnt a window cleaner.
How odd is that?
Perhaps Ewey is Davo's alter ego.
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I don't know the guy you mean Matt, but nothing stranger than people. You have been in this game and on this site long enough to know how it all works.
I honestly believe Ewan is not a WC. Some people crave recognition, they will do really strange things to get it.
In Ewan's case though, it causes more damage than good. Guys come on here to get help and advice. Such posturing, that he does just makes other new guys feel that they are doing things wrong. That can damage their view of this way of earning a crust.
I honestly believe he is strange and in no way can he be a WC. He doesn't make sense ???
He has never said anything positive about 1 of his custies, that's strange.
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I don't know the guy you mean Matt,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=13094
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Why do you avoid the answers Ewan? Anyone would think you have something to hide.
Where is your business? What do you do all day?
Why are you on this forum if you aren't a window cleaner?
As far as I am concerned I’m still relatively new to this game and still have plenty to learn my first job was for £5 my latest quotation I am still putting together is for a lot more, enough to give me my own doubts about doing it. ;D
So you are new to this business or not? Are you a window cleaner?
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You and few other people on here are just full of it.
*ahem* *cough* *cough* you need to take a look in the mirror before you make statements like that.
Your the one full of it, re-read Cozys observations about yourself, if you cant see that that is the case then you are blind to the truth, nipper.
And your point about other jobs being ??? .........cos that has nothing to do with your lack of expereince and know-it-all attitude.
Get back in your box, until your willing to listen :-X :-X
By the way, why would you want to either edit or delete some of your first posts that would illustrate your lack of experience and time in the game?
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I am a member on another forum, that is nothing to do with cleaning, it couldn't be further from it!!!
It seems on that forum that everyone has a tag line.
The one that made me think more than anything I have read for a long time is this ' I can see further by standing on the shoulders of giants'.
Now I take that to mean by utilising and using other peoples experience a much broader understanding can be achieved.
Have the forums not done this and made everyone instant knowalls. There is some complete dross posted on here by some who claim to be business people, who have no profile, no contact details and are only a name on a computer screen but the majority listen to the advice given. Even though it has no substance and it is clear they have no experience!!!
I am not sticking up for Ewan (again) but there are some truly stupid people on here, that don't know their head from their a$%e and Ewan could elaborate more on some of his replies but he is way from being the worst on here. If he is not a window cleaner, he doesn't need to be. The information has been given and is in the public domain, to make anyone a professional, in a faceless world.
My vote is to have complete profiles, I have looked into more than one profile over the last couple of days to find websites that don't exist, what's that all about?
Rob ;D
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And your not a window-cleaner ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Could you show me your evidence to back up these statements you've made please and do your best to answer the questions put to you.
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seems theres a lot of wannabe window guys out there isnt there? sirobo and ewan et al. why cant they bite the bullet and just get out there doing it,i cant understand ,painfully shy or summat?
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It wont but if the people that claimed to have the businesses that are turning over £50.00 per hour, even when they are asleep, or if they even look at a property, really did earn that they would invest in a website and would be proud of their profile and would submit the information.
The pricing on here is such that there can be no excuse for not being in that position, a website is a window into your business and as vital a tool as the purified water!!
There will always be those that could be construed as 'Trolls' and they will never show their true colours but why do you let it get to you, why do you allow yourselves to be drawn into arguments, that rage on for days, why not ignore the posts- from the Trolls.
There are about 5 people on the forum that I will not post replies to, they wont know that, they might not want my experience and so either way it wont matter but what is posted is clear that they are beyond reasoning in the world I live in.
The forum started, I think, to offer advice to fellow window cleaners but in the time I have been on here it has become much more of a socialising space, with no real business focus. Those that are experienced industry leaders have left and taken a valuable resource and much experience with them. There is nothing wrong with this movement but when you dilute something enough times you end up with a very weak end product!!
Anyone with true business experience is often hounded and ridiculed to the point where they choose not to reply. I like the site and I like the characters on here, it is diverse and rarely dull and that is why I stay. Would I share my risk assessments and method statements on here, no because they are ten steps ahead. I have seen the ones on various forums and they are like the ones I produced in the first six months of my business. My business grew!!!
I am not going to be drawn into a row on this or any other topic.
Good luck to all but choose the shoulders you stand on carefully!!
Rob ;D
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LOL
Rob ;D
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So, about this egg......should it be charged for?
:D :D :D :D
Yea apparently 35 smackers.
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we MUST FIND the real ewan ;D
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It's a forum for window cleaners, well this section is. Why would anyone want to go and try to give advice about something they know very little about?
How does that help anybody? It's not harmless fun giving advice that's at best, a guess.
Ewan has been talking about his website since march last year, it seems it's harder to find than MI5's.
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PMSL
3....2....1... go! ;D
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"EWAN! the school bus is here, come on hurry up love"
Ewan is always in the middle of every argument on here regarding buisiness, the only time he back peddles is when he comes up against one of the big boys who own several vans and are sucesses in Ewans eyes. I'm 99% sure he was Davo in a previous life who finally admitted he had never cleaned windows and went very quiet as soon as 'Ewan' became more active. He was also another character with three letters something like 'lsd' and would come on and enable him to talk to himself.
There can't be many long term members who haven't fallen out with Ewan somewhere down the line. The best one I recall was the brilliant advice given for everyone to claim tax allowance on their sandwiches. That went on for days, great laugh that was. ;D ;D ;D ;D
If you put these on every post ;D ;D ;D ;D then it's ok to ridicule people on here and accuse them of being unprofessional and not understanding anything ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Damm it's still raining looks like the only entertainment will be ciu today. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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dont know why you all keep going on about him,no doubt
you are only inflaming the ego of some teenager who is to terrified
to leave his bedroom and lives his whole life through his computer.
bit of a non entity really ;D
oh yeah ive only had clean egg off once,down stairs window
soaked with wfp then scraped it off didnt charge extra :)
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This thread has cracked me up.There seriously was a bloke on here who used to dish out advice but then admitted he wasn't a window cleaner?I wish I was around when he was demasked,I bet there was untold fun and games.I've been on the pull before and pretended to be a lion tamer but I've never heard of anyone trying to gain prestige by pretending to be a window cleaner.
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Hey Craig i bet that g-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-e-a-t!
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I only clean them off if they are free range. I don't believe in handling eggs from caged hens.
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Hey Craig i bet that g-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-e-a-t!
Ha ha.Yeah I've been a lion tamer,dolphin trainer and stunt pilot in my time.Good times.Never got anywhere mind you,I used to get blown out more times than a wind sock.
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somebody's bored
Yep ;D Worse still there's a bottle of Chardonnay in the fridge that keeps winking at me. By 12.30 my alcoholic tendancies will crush my will-power ;D
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just do it. you know you want to.
then put jeremy kyle on the telly and see the future ;D
I think some of my custies should be on Jeremy Kyle. By the way, I don't charge extra for eggs or bird poo on glass. ;D
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just do it. you know you want to.
then put jeremy kyle on the telly and see the future ;D
I think some of my custies should be on Jeremy Kyle. By the way, I don't charge extra for eggs or bird poo on glass. ;D
I've (very) occassionally watched the Jeremy Kyle show...he must scour the land to find these fat, spotty, foul-mouthed, uneducated, drug taking, alcoholic, unwashed filth.
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This thread has cracked me up.There seriously was a bloke on here who used to dish out advice but then admitted he wasn't a window cleaner?I wish I was around when he was demasked,I bet there was untold fun and games.I've been on the pull before and pretended to be a lion tamer but I've never heard of anyone trying to gain prestige by pretending to be a window cleaner.
This is him, came by the name of Davo, but reckoned he was actually called Mark. Very similiar posting style to you-know-who :D
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=13094
Check out his posts, from the first posts right the way through he never once recounted a window cleaning work event.
I used to tell 'em I was a pilot btw :D :D :D
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Matt, pilot, I mean come on ;D Self employed pilot? Did you tell 'em you had your own plane? ;D
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I have one customer who has his own helecopter and another who is a pilot.
Shame they didn't use those lines when finding wives ;D
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Matt, pilot, I mean come on ;D Self employed pilot? Did you tell 'em you had your own plane? ;D
Cant remember, alcohol had a lot to do with it :D
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I have one customer who has his own helecopter and another who is a pilot.
Shame they didn't use those lines when finding wives ;D
Hmmm, wonder if it worked for Matt. I think that's a really silly thing to do Matt, pretending to be something you're not ::) By the way mate, do you go in other forums and spout about what a day you had at the airport? ;D
Anyway, got to go now, I have to post a few lines in another forum. Surgeons reunited, got a big OP on Monday ;)
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Cozy any chance of doing my hernia been waiting since march now its end of september at the earlist ;D
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Yes mate, have you under the knife and out the door before NWH has 4 houses done with PVC frames ;D no probs 8)
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Yes mate, have you under the knife and out the door before NWH has 4 houses done with PVC frames ;D no probs 8)
what about keyhole ;D
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Never use 'em mate, just a big knife ;D
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
Get back to you later Stan, got some mong on the other forum recons he is a window cleaner ???
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lmao
particularly @ mong ;D
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
Get back to you later Stan, got some mong on the other forum recons he is a window cleaner ???
Ewan ;D
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
Get back to you later Stan, got some mong on the other forum recons he is a window cleaner ???
Ewan ;D
Hang on, I'll have a look.................... yeah, how did you know?
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
Get back to you later Stan, got some mong on the other forum recons he is a window cleaner ???
Ewan ;D
Hang on, I'll have a look.................... yeah, how did you know?
You mean? You mean? You mean......he's not a window cleaner?
Heavens above, what is he then ?
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
Get back to you later Stan, got some mong on the other forum recons he is a window cleaner ???
Ewan ;D
Hang on, I'll have a look.................... yeah, how did you know?
educated guess ;D
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Hey Davo, why is that youve deleted a number of your original posts under the alterego identity that you come on here, where you are known as Ewan, about how little experience you have in the window cleaning game?
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think ill wait for the nhs then,few weeks off in winter ;D
Get back to you later Stan, got some mong on the other forum recons he is a window cleaner ???
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Well I suppose if your right that’s OK, but if you are wrong you’re just proving you are a complete numpty ;D
EH?
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He's got his interweb pages confused and posted in the wrong topic on the wrong forum completely, that bit about you being wrong was probably to do with the ' psychophrenic and multiple personality/job/career disorder combined with irrational and social paranoia' thread he's participating in on the mental health forum.
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Eh?, I thought he cleaned egg off glass for 35 quid a shot?
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Eh?, I thought he cleaned egg off glass for 35 quid a shot?
What he is trying to say cozy, is you are a numpty but don’t worry so is he.
It’s over complicated because he an expert in everything ;D
No need to resort to abuse Ewan, nobody swore, or had a go directly at you. This forum is all about helping people with advice. Sometimes a little banter, don't take it all personally, just because you aren't a window cleaner doesn't mean your input isn't valuable. It's just nobody takes you seriously anymore. Probably because it's obvious that you are a prat
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Looks like Ewans posts are getting deleted :-*
Because abuse is uncalled for. Give a man enough rope....... don't matter who protects him.
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Thats the one ;)
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Well, I responded to a post and all you do is try to respond in an antagonising, critical and p-taking way.
If I am to believe this last post of yours I would therefore assume that you have a problem with me if you respond to my posts in the way you did.
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Too late to start back-peddling.
We can all make out some load of old dross when its easier and more convenient to do so, you should have thought of that before you started causing trouble.
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because I won’t change how I post.
Give 'em enough rope.
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The guy just sees what he wants to see Matt. You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. He doesn't want to see how stupid he is. He is a person that is in the position that he doesn't want to give up. He is determined to come across as a businessman.
He will post the same old garbage for weeks untill he finds another foirum, like"Ex MAN utd players". Who knows what he thinks, and who cares?
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God help his boy-friend if they have an arguement, I bet he never lets up.
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Sorry to drag this on to this length lads. I've had a chip on my shoulder for the first few years of being a WC. After all I have seen from custies and competition in this game, I have become a little bit hard edged about how I see this game. One thing that I can't stand, is people that want to teach me how to run a business or try to make out they are much too clever to spend a few minutes to explain a concept to me because I am only a window cleaner.
I find it offensive that someone would come on this forum and play the big "Richard Branson" and expect us to be impressed.
Ewan, you are taking the micky with your condicending posts and "I know better attitude". All you do is annoy people, and play for your own ego. You are the "Mozzy in the bedroom" when I turn the light out to go to sleep.
What's worse is, you never seem to notice when we laugh at your drivvel.
You are one sad git Ewan.