Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Captain Scarlet on May 06, 2008, 08:33:57 pm
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Well after using it for a bit now, my favourite thing about the SL-X is simply the way it looks, it looks really nice and professional. Dont get me wrong its good in every other way too, being super stiff and extremely extremely light. The carbon weave looks like some amazing hologram, especially in the sun. And the lettering along the pole looks really good too, Luke
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I must agree that it does look very good, I don't care much about how it looks, but it does give a very pro look. Just like the SL2. :)
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how are you getting on with the new clamps though luke,
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how are you getting on with the new clamps though luke,
The clamps, I like the way they feel actually, much more than than any other clamp Ive used, I liked the xtel clamps but these are just as easy to use. With the threadlock they are great, Luke
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I must agree that it does look very good, I don't care much about how it looks, but it does give a very pro look. Just like the SL2.
I think it gives a real pro image and Ive noticed customers looking at it because of its fancy carbon pattern, Luke
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sounds a bit like you have fallen in love
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sounds a bit like you have fallen in love
yes, its a nice pole!!! Luke
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Ill back you up there it is a nice pole in every way but i do find myself being caught out by the weave pattern in the pole (i should get a life) but this is a great pole in all ways and worth every penny imo.
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how dos this pole compare with facelift (macmac)im happy with my facelift but if theres something better then who knows .
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how dos this pole compare with facelift (macmac)im happy with my facelift but if theres something better then who knows .
A proper camparison will be coming soon, the sl-x is superb but for a true comparison & accurate stsements/comments i have to put it through it's paces a bit more to be fair all round. I can say though it's a real good'un. ;)
Tony
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Luke, do you ever bump your head on it when you roll over in your sleep? ;D
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From reading a selection of Lukes posts Im starting to believe he is have a love affair with Gardiners. Nothing wrong with that of course but If hes not already on commission he should be LOL ;D
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The carbon weave looks like some amazing hologram, especially in the sun. And the lettering along the pole looks really good too, Luke
i know your not joking
here is my advice
go out drink beer, meet females, have fun
its not natural to be making posts like the one you just have, seriously
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What's more it's unhealthy, Luke you need to look after your eyesight for later years checking for spots and runs etc. :o
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What's even more worrying is that even I'M starting to think like luke where the sl-x is concerned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
I've even kicked the facelift out of bed!!
Tony
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
please stop this NOW!
Macmac are you honestly going to throw away the last couple of years with facelift all over a little fling? especially when its not love, its just slx! ;D ;D
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pmsl...thats funny.... ;D ;D
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Come on it's not the SL-X you're having an affair with, it's actually Kirsty you're after.
A way to a woman's heart is his pole ;D ;D ;D
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
please stop this NOW!
Macmac are you honestly going to throw away the last couple of years with facelift all over a little fling? especially when its not love, its just slx! ;D ;D
It's tearing me apart, wife's left me, dog bit me today, neighbours have diss-owned me, i've become short, fat & bald (well that's actually true) & facelift have thrown me off their pay-roll!!!!! Where's it all gonna end? :'( :'( :'( :'(
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In reality, life's just become that bit easier & quicker. Oh, nearly forgot, a wee bit more pleasing on the eye too. :-*
Tony
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Oh god, i've just realised i've got the very same pole as you, the same swivel (even the same colour), the same brush now (even ground it the same), lubricated the clamps the same - spooky or what?
However, i still have some hair and my pump works ok. ;)
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Oh, nearly forgot, a wee bit more pleasing on the eye too. :-*
Tony
that'll be the :
The carbon weave looks like some amazing hologram, especially in the sun. And the lettering along the pole
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I love my pole too, it's light and tough, no need to worry if it falls, makes those windows over cons a piece of cake.
£15.00 from B&Q annd gets my brush just where I want it to be. Dai
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I'm going to paint the base section on my SL-X pole yellow so it's distinctive as one of my previous carbon poles was driven over by a woman driver who mounted the pavement where my pole was laying. She totally refused to cough up for the damage as she crushed my pole into tiny splinters.
A couple days later I noticed Karma had paid her a visit as her brand new, top of the range, Mercedes had been vandalised with three very long, deep, key/knife scratches all down one entire side when she'd parked up locally. I'd like to thank the person who vandalised her car and shake their hand.
What goes around, comes around.
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I'm going to paint the base section on my SL-X pole yellow so it's distinctive as one of my previous carbon poles was driven over by a woman driver who mounted the pavement where my pole was laying. She totally refused to cough up for the damage as she crushed my pole into tiny splinters.
A couple days later I noticed Karma had paid her a visit as her brand new, top of the range, Mercedes had been vandalised with three very long, deep, key/knife scratches all down one entire side when she'd parked up locally. I'd like to thank the person who vandalised her car and shake their hand.
What goes around, comes around.
Naughty Wayne LOL ;)
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its ok wayne you don't need to thank me.
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I'm going to paint the base section on my SL-X pole yellow so it's distinctive as one of my previous carbon poles was driven over by a woman driver who mounted the pavement where my pole was laying. She totally refused to cough up for the damage as she crushed my pole into tiny splinters.
A couple days later I noticed Karma had paid her a visit as her brand new, top of the range, Mercedes had been vandalised with three very long, deep, key/knife scratches all down one entire side when she'd parked up locally. I'd like to thank the person who vandalised her car and shake their hand.
What goes around, comes around.
Naughty Wayne LOL ;)
Kev R
It wasn't me. I'm not clever enough to think of any idiotic thoughts like that, lol. Niice van set up by the way. Give me a ring when you dig out those pole controllers and we'll do a swap and cash to make the difference.
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No worries Wayne, I will have a dig for them this weekend. I need a visit to Varitech in a couple of weeks so well meet up then If you like ;)
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Oh god, i've just realised i've got the very same pole as you, the same swivel (even the same colour), the same brush now (even ground it the same), lubricated the clamps the same - spooky or what?
However, i still have some hair and my pump works ok. ;)
Great minds & all that ;D
As for the hair- grass doesn't grow on busy roads!! ;)
Have you tried the brush yet? what you think?
Tony
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I love my pole too, it's light and tough, no need to worry if it falls, makes those windows over cons a piece of cake.
£15.00 from B&Q annd gets my brush just where I want it to be. Dai
That sounds like my kind of pole Dai!!! Spending hundreds on a pole is madness if you ask me!!! ;)
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Have you tried the brush yet? what you think?
Tony
About double the power of a Bentley, a bit hefty at full stretch but it's the right shape and the bristles are spot on - use it most of the time now, can even hear it scrubbing. :)
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Very impressive pole.
I thought it wouldn't be very suitable for ground floor windows, how wrong I was.
I fitted a Tucker brush on a swivel to it and can reach the lowest of windows now providing I'm not working in a confined space.
As an arthritic sufferer I thought I may have problems using the clamps. I find the clamps easy to get on with. Not as quick and easy as the excel clamps but a very close comparison.
Pole has a nice small diameter base section so it's not a strain on the fingers when used constantly. The sections are nice and rigid and the balance of the pole collapsed or fully extended is ideal. It has a good feel about it when used.
I'm impressed with this pole, I will buy another one as a spare and will highly recommend them to other window cleaners.
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I may get one, and I agree they probably rate as the best pole but;
Why are they better to use than my 17' excel ? i've broke two this year but i'm only popping £70 , even with the scale up slx price they'd be more expensive for a clumsy speed merchant like me. My kit gets hammered.
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Because it it reaches 30ft and does groundloor windows,
and hopefully it lasts a lot longer
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I may get one, and I agree they probably rate as the best pole but;
Why are they better to use than my 17' excel ? i've broke two this year but i'm only popping £70 , even with the scale up slx price they'd be more expensive for a clumsy speed merchant like me. My kit gets hammered.
I used the SLX alday today up and down and it was so much easier it`s unreal,i had it at full stretch this morning on window`s 30ft up without any problems.Discount trust me when i say buy 1 you won`t regret it 1 bit,the job i did today i normally have to get the SL2 out but no need to with the new pole,most days all but 1 now on domestic the SLX reaches everything well worth the money.
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Better than an electric reel for saving energy. ;) Don't be such a tight wad - you need to invest in your business to reap the rewards. At your advanced age you should be considering all means possible of protecting your body. Then, save up for a couple more weeks and get the S2 as well, then you will have the perfect set up. Oh, you won't be breaking an SL-X either. When the customer sees you have the most advanded kit known to man, his jaw will drop and he'll just pass the notes over in amazement!
If i get the sun shining on the carbon weave i swear i can see Alex's face in it- like a hologram!
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Well thanks to my mate Dai, I can now afford to get 20 perfect poles from b&q for the price of your one!!! And I bet my 20 harris poles will outlast your overpriced mugs pole by many years!!!! ;D
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Well thanks to my mate Dai, I can now afford to get 20 perfect poles from b&q for the price of your one!!! And I bet my 20 harris poles will outlast your overpriced mugs pole by many years!!!! ;D
I`ll bet your best car is a cortina lol,you get what you pay for and you`ll find that out for yourself.Why do you think there £15,so you can keep chucking them away. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I`ll bet your best car is a cortina lol,you get what you pay for and you`ll find that out for yourself.Why do you think there £15,so you can keep chucking them away. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I drive a Mini Cooper at the moment, which is a brilliant little car!! I know value for money when I see it, and the harris pole is exactly that!!! I started using it today, and I'll bet you I'm still using that same pole in 6 months time!!! I bet your rip off mugs pole won't be looking quite so flash by then!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I`ll just buy another 1 when it dies. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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I`ll just buy another 1 when it dies. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The same as me but mine will only cost me £15!!! ;D ;D ;D :-* ;)
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How high can you go with that pole and is it ridgid are you able to clean windows up to 30ft down to ground floor with the same pole,if you can then fair play to you.
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I can clean up to 38 ft with the SL-X if I stand on the crawling board on the roof rack of my van- can anyone beat that? I have a van door ladder and find it useful if I park right up to garages for jumping on to their flat roofs without the need for ladders, lol
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I`ll just buy another 1 when it dies. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The same as me but mine will only cost me £15!!! ;D ;D ;D :-* ;)
you if I am right have been using this less than 2 weeks, let us know in a couple of months if it is still going stroung, I was meant to get to b&q to get one to test but failed as Bar-B-Q got there first.
Ian
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you if I am right have been using this less than 2 weeks, let us know in a couple of months if it is still going stroung, I was meant to get to b&q to get one to test but failed as Bar-B-Q got there first.
Ian
Your right Ian, but my first impressions are that it is a fantastic pole!! And I am over the moon that I have spent £15 instead of £300!!
I will of course keep you updated on how well it lasts over the next couple of months, but I am convinced that it will last for many months, hopefully even last a year!!! ;D
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Over £400 actually lol. ;D ;D ;D
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Over £400 actually lol. ;D ;D ;D
You was mugged!!!!!!!! :o
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Over £400 actually lol. ;D ;D ;D
You was mugged!!!!!!!! :o
I know i was,i thought he was a window cleaner and he was a gardiner lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o
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I will wait for 6 months or so, then I will buy one when Alex is selling them off at £200!!! ;)
Or maybe I will just get another £15 pole from b&q!!! ;D
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They are worth every penny,can`t wait for the brush.You and Lewis the penny pinching blade runner make a good pair lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well thanks to my mate Dai, I can now afford to get 20 perfect poles from b&q for the price of your one!!! And I bet my 20 harris poles will outlast your overpriced mugs pole by many years!!!! ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
I'd just love to see you guys using your decorators poles at 30ft. ;)
Tony
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Yeah lol the next thing you`ll here he`ll be jetting a roller lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Yeah lol the next thing you`ll here he`ll be jetting a roller lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
;D ;D ;D ;D
I've got a harris pole & to be honest it would make a descent small/emergency pole, but for everyday main pole :o :o :o :o not for me, not on your nelly ;) I value the speed & ease of my everyday working life too much. 8)
Tony
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At the end of the day it is a stick with a brush on the end, the only real difference is about £385!! ;D Mugs!!! ;)
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;D ;D ;D ;D
I've got a harris pole & to be honest it would make a descent small/emergency pole
Tony
What for when your £400 pole snaps in half? ;D
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Save your money Groundhog,you never know when your cortina might breakdown lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
I've got a harris pole & to be honest it would make a descent small/emergency pole
Tony
What for when your £400 pole snaps in half? ;D
You arn't in the know my friend, if the sl-x was 800 quid i would still have it. I paid 920 quid for a 44ft facelift carbon 18 months ago which is still going strong & has paid for itself many, many times over. Try doing a good job at 44ft with a harris pole! ;D ;D
Anyway, thought you'd turned over a new leaf since being reinstated? :P
Tony
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Save your money Groundhog,you never know when your cortina might breakdown lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well I suppose you could always sell your pole when your Robin Reliant fails its mot and needs all three wheels changing!!! ;D
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Save your money Groundhog,you never know when your cortina might breakdown lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well I suppose you could always sell your pole when your Robin Reliant fails its mot and needs all three wheels changing!!! ;D
Don`t forget Rodney a little dab al do ya lol,those poles your on about they use them to paint the big cruise liners.
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Just added to Dai's Harris pole topic over on Matts site showing how you can add 3.5m to it making it an 8.5m pole for only £18.99
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My Sl-x was totally useless this week.
With my clamps keep coming loose, I reset my pole and used loctite, everything seemed fine until yesterday when my wife was using it and she couldnt use clamps 2 or 3 ,she couldnt budge them, for 1 job she had to use a screwdriver to prise open the clamps.
A £430 pole stuck in the van unusuable for 2 days.
Why do i bother !!!!
Should of stuck with my fall apart excels.
Its all right for you guys without a full workload, you can spend all day loving it and polishing it , but in the real world it can be a nightmare
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My Sl-x was totally useless this week.
With my clamps keep coming loose, I reset my pole and used loctite, everything seemed fine until yesterday when my wife was using it and she couldnt use clamps 2 or 3 ,she couldnt budge them, for 1 job she had to use a screwdriver to prise open the clamps.
A £430 pole stuck in the van unusuable for 2 days.
Why do i bother !!!!
Should of stuck with my fall apart excels.
Its all right for you guys without a full workload, you can spend all day loving it and polishing it , but in the real world it can be a nightmare
I know what has happened, when you put loctite on the threads, rather than just putting a drop on the threads it must have poured into the lever pivot and has glued it up, rendering the clamps stuck shut. Bring it up to my place and I will clean the lever cams for you and reset them. Give us a ring in the morning and we can arrange a suitable time for you.
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I must admit and if Groundhog asks i`m holding my head in shame but i also had problems with my clamps today also,they`ve been repaired by Alex and came apart again today.The pole sections were sliding down and i was pulling my hair out at 1 point and got the facelift out,i went to my step dads workshop and cut the 24ft facelift down to 21ft and used that instead for half the day.The pole is of really good quality but i can`t see me getting on with the clamps at all,if carlsberg made poles they would look like the SLX with facelift clamps.
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Hi Alex
That is what i thought, I was thinking of dropping it down today but was too busy.
Dont know if i can get down before your hols, dont mean to be harsh about the pole, I still like it it even though it can be frustrating at times.
I suppose if it were set up right it would be a lot better, trouble is when i am at work I am always flat out so cant spend time doing adjustments etc.
Anymore thoughts about that gooseneck ?
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Alex, I've got the same problem, my clamps are terribly stuck, please tell me what to do!!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :(
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I use my poles flat out all day, I too have a full work load (could do with 36 hour days & 10 day weeks atthe mo' )
I want to be in/out asap, no faffing, no hassle.
I set the sl-x's clamps up initially, just minor adjustments with allen key. found the cam/lever opperation a bit stiff, so, as said in another post i put a drop of 3 in 1 oil on the moving parts & this made all the difference. I have not put any loctite on the threads at all & the clamps work perfectly & have not required any re-adjustment since.
The clamps on my pole don't butt up flush, i'm not sure wether they should or shouldn't but i prefere them not to- as a small seperation between them aids a faster opperation & less fiddling IMO.
Dave @ st ives- have you oiled the cams on the clamps?
Tony
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Tony
I think its the thread glue, I just dont have the time to sort it out, I spent an hour or 2 on sunday dismantling it and re- adjusting the clamps, had it working fine, must have been to happy with the loctite.
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Hi Alex
That is what i thought, I was thinking of dropping it down today but was too busy.
Dont know if i can get down before your hols, dont mean to be harsh about the pole, I still like it it even though it can be frustrating at times.
I suppose if it were set up right it would be a lot better, trouble is when i am at work I am always flat out so cant spend time doing adjustments etc.
Anymore thoughts about that gooseneck ?
If you can drop it off any time Wednesday or Thursday I can sort it out and you shouldn't have to touch the clamps again. Give me a ring in the morning.
As for the gooseneck challenge you set me, someone else today had a thought about this for their own hard to access window and I do have an add on solution in mind that may sort the problem for you.
By the way we have the new stock of G-Fits in if you now want one for your SL-X, we have them in 2 slightly shorter sizes as well.
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Alex, I've got the same problem, my clamps are terribly stuck, please tell me what to do!!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :(
When the manual say a drop or two it really means it!!
To cure an excess off threadlock, undo completely the clamp bolt and cleanall of the parts: Bolt, Lever arm, nut peg (this will be what is glued up and it will need pushing out from the lever arm), cam shim and clamp body.
Once you have cleaned all the excess threadlock then re-assemble and tighten to the right setting.
Now reapply the threadlock, it does help if you hold the bottle at an angle so that the dropper is uppermost and just let the end touch the thread and 'suck' a drop off. Allow no more than 2 or 3 drops to go on the thread. After it has run down the thread wipe any excess off. The threadlock is powerful stuff and you only need a small amount.
As soon as we realised that the Factory had not applied this as standard to the threads, we started applying it to each pole that went out.
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Alex
Yes for the G-Fit a regular please with the add on solution.
Looked at my work, dont think i can get down to you this week, maybe after work one day if i get the energy.
When is the sl2 back in stock , might need one soon or a loan of 1 at least.
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Alex
Yes for the G-Fit a regular please with the add on solution.
Looked at my work, dont think i can get down to you this week, maybe after work one day if i get the energy.
When is the sl2 back in stock , might need one soon or a loan of 1 at least.
I thought a man mountain like you had endless energy :D
The SL-2 is back in stock at the very beginning of June.
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I always keep the allen key in my pocket for the occasional nip if required. I have my clamps adjusted so that they just stop the sections spinning. Now and again i'll adjust on the fly by a tiny amount.
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Alex
Yes for the G-Fit a regular please with the add on solution.
Looked at my work, dont think i can get down to you this week, maybe after work one day if i get the energy.
When is the sl2 back in stock , might need one soon or a loan of 1 at least.
Dave - just a reminder that I'm not around after Thursday afternoon for two weeks.
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Alex
Work is killing me at the moment, dont know where its all coming from, its like no wants the big and awkward jobs at the moment, so i am getting them all.
Trouble is I just dont know how to say NO !!!!
OK Have a good holiday if i dont see you before
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Thanks mate. I think it sounds like you need a holiday as well. :)
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Alex
Work is killing me at the moment, dont know where its all coming from, its like no wants the big and awkward jobs at the moment, so i am getting them all.
Trouble is I just dont know how to say NO !!!!
OK Have a good holiday if i dont see you before
You need to delegate mate ;D
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Thought I'd just warn other window cleaners to remember NOT to use this carbon fibre pole for banging opened windows shut like you may perhaps if you are using fibre glass poles as carbon fibre poles won't take the abuse as much. No doubt someone will forget this and snap a pole shortly, lol
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Alex
Work is killing me at the moment, dont know where its all coming from, its like no wants the big and awkward jobs at the moment, so i am getting them all.
Trouble is I just dont know how to say NO !!!!
OK Have a good holiday if i dont see you before
see what i mean
regards
mike
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Alex
Work is killing me at the moment, dont know where its all coming from, its like no wants the big and awkward jobs at the moment, so i am getting them all.
Trouble is I just dont know how to say NO !!!!
Dave St Ives,
shame I don't live near you 'cause I love the big jobs, the bigger the better. I love parking up for the day and not having to move my van. I don't begrudge you the awkward ones though.
The day you'll say no to a job is when you're home off work exhausted, run down, tired, aching, depressed and wanting to pack it all in, try to make some time for yourself.
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I must admit and if Groundhog asks i`m holding my head in shame but i also had problems with my clamps today also,they`ve been repaired by Alex and came apart again today.The pole sections were sliding down and i was pulling my hair out at 1 point and got the facelift out,i went to my step dads workshop and cut the 24ft facelift down to 21ft and used that instead for half the day.The pole is of really good quality but i can`t see me getting on with the clamps at all,if carlsberg made poles they would look like the SLX with facelift clamps.
You could always buy yourself a Harris pole for 15 quid!! My clamps are working just fine!!!!! ;D ;D ;)
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I must admit and if Groundhog asks i`m holding my head in shame but i also had problems with my clamps today also,they`ve been repaired by Alex and came apart again today.The pole sections were sliding down and i was pulling my hair out at 1 point and got the facelift out,i went to my step dads workshop and cut the 24ft facelift down to 21ft and used that instead for half the day.The pole is of really good quality but i can`t see me getting on with the clamps at all,if carlsberg made poles they would look like the SLX with facelift clamps.
You could always buy yourself a Harris pole for 15 quid!! My clamps are working just fine!!!!! ;D ;D ;)
Well, it's two problems really, user error, and not enough loctite from the factory. Silly me. ;D
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Hi
Just had my pole sorted by Alex, He removed the excess glue and lubed the clamps.
I cant believe its the same pole, so much better.
I think the biggest problem was mine was the first of the production line and I rushed Alex to have it ready on time for me.
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I applied just 2-3 drops of loctite to each thread, the clamps have bedded in just perfect since, Luke
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I have been using the SLX on quite a few jobs, like most have said allready the cams need to be oiled.
The Slx has replaced two of my poles, and the wieght & ridgity of the pole is superb, I have 2 jobs that will test the full hight, but I will need the extestion for these.
Any news on this?
I think it is monney well spent.
Roy
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I have been using the SLX on quite a few jobs, like most have said allready the cams need to be oiled.
The Slx has replaced two of my poles, and the wieght & ridgity of the pole is superb, I have 2 jobs that will test the full hight, but I will need the extestion for these.
Any news on this?
I think it is monney well spent.
Roy
Worryingly no news on the extension, which will mean that they haven't done them yet. We should have received them by now, but do know that they have been held up with some glitches on other products they are making so this will have had a knock on effect on our production run.
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Thought I'd just warn other window cleaners to remember NOT to use this carbon fibre pole for banging opened windows shut like you may perhaps if you are using fibre glass poles as carbon fibre poles won't take the abuse as much. No doubt someone will forget this and snap a pole shortly, lol
I've closed many windows with it this week & last, as i always have done with the facelift & no probs here! ;)
Tony
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Alex, hi.
Big Hello from Russia (Saint-Petersburg).
We are looking forward to receiving SL-X & SL2 for the first time in Russia. I hope to get them in 3-4 days after custom clearance. We will publish some pictures soon.
:) Have a good holidays. All the best from..
Vadim / MoemGorod.ru
p.s. big thanks for your cooperation and Professional assistance.
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I bet thats a years pay in Russia ?
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I bet thats a years pay in Russia ?
A year's pay, Don't you believe it these guys know how to earn! They have some very serious contracts and I have rarely met such a professional operation :)
Alex, hi.
Big Hello from Russia (Saint-Petersburg).
We are looking forward to receiving SL-X & SL2 for the first time in Russia. I hope to get them in 3-4 days after custom clearance. We will publish some pictures soon.
:) Have a good holidays. All the best from..
Vadim / MoemGorod.ru
p.s. big thanks for your cooperation and Professional assistance.
Hi Vadim / MoemGorod,
Welcome to the forum, here you will find a wealth of advice and information and quite a few crazy people ;)
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Do you mean they are as professional as me ?
Thought you were on holiday ? Your not sat on the beach with your laptop are you ?
Hi Vadim and Co
Welcome to the forum
Dave
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Do you mean they are as professional as me ?
Thought you were on holiday ? Your not sat on the beach with your laptop are you ?
Hi Vadim and Co
Welcome to the forum
Dave
I cancelled my holiday so that I could stay on the forum talking to you!
Tomorrow! Once we've primed the house and office 'sitters' we'll be off.
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Добрый вечер !
Pj
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... Добрый вечер, добрые люди..
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Hi Alex
I am like to come and test drive some of your poles, if its o.k. with you? Because what I have been reading about these poles have impressed me.
Can you tell me if you have moved to your new shop? And where it is?
Best regards
Bosh
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Hi Alex
I am like to come and test drive some of your poles, if its o.k. with you? Because what I have been reading about these poles have impressed me.
Can you tell me if you have moved to your new shop? And where it is?
Best regards
Bosh
Hi Bosh,
Drop me an email ( alex@agardiner.co.uk ) with your contact details and when we return from our holiday I will send you the details. There are staff who will still be here to oversee the final stages of the transfer to the new premises over the next 2 weeks (2nd fix electrics, new windows/doors, carpets, toilets, etc,) whilst we are away, so hopefully by the time we get back from holiday the new premises will be fully operational.
You are more than welcome to test the pole range when you visit.
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Добрый вечер !
Pj
Я могу использовать свободный перевод также!
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Many Thanks Alex
i have just send you an E mai.
Look forward to see you soon.
Best Regards
Bosh
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Привет мой российский товарищ!!!! Добро пожаловать в форум, я также имею SL-X и SL2. Они - оба удивительные полюса, пожалуйста продолжите использовать этот вебсайт, Льюка
SL-X LOWDOWN
Some teething probelms with the clamps ( applied loctite a few weeks ago and instantly yhe problem was cured ) but overall a brilliant pole, Luke
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Спасибо, Льюк / Thanks, Luke.
Вадим / Vadim
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A nice iconic pic of the slx in action in russia would be good. Possibly the same pose as the lenin? statue where he presses forward with the red flag.
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53 yo? Don’t believe. Usually wisdom comes in old age... but sometimes old age comes alone.
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It's a long way for us and hard to grasp.
Whatever country you come from and however proud you are of it best of luck to you.
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Just can't get the clamps to grip the pole correctly. Some sections are okay, but some slide down quite quickly, okay, that's solved by tightening the clamps, but when not extended, the clamp doesn't close because it's too tight.
Driving me nuts Alex.
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Tim, Alex is on holiday at the moment. To cure your clamps use the loctite glue supplied with your pole.
Ok first extend all the sections a little and tighten the allen keys ( or loosen ) until you are happy with them. Close all the clamps shut. Then apply ONLY 2 SMALL drops to the exposed thread on the outer side of the clamps ( read Alex instructions ) be careful not to get the stuff anywhere else on the pole.
Done properly this will certainly solve the problem but you need to make sure the loctite is covering all of that exposed thread so there is no room for movement.
Luke
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Tim, Alex is on holiday at the moment. To cure your clamps use the loctite glue supplied with your pole.
Ok first extend all the sections a little and tighten the allen keys ( or loosen ) until you are happy with them. Close all the clamps shut. Then apply ONLY 2 SMALL drops to the exposed thread on the outer side of the clamps ( read Alex instructions ) be careful not to get the stuff anywhere else on the pole.
Done properly this will certainly solve the problem but you need to make sure the loctite is covering all of that exposed thread so there is no room for movement.
Luke
Hi luke, yea I managed to do the loctite, I'm just saying that at closed length, the place where the clamps clamp the pole, is where they are slightly thicker, so you can adjust the clamps fine when the sections are slightly extended, but when fully closed, you just simply can't close the clamps anymore.
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Hi luke, yea I managed to do the loctite, I'm just saying that at closed length, the place where the clamps clamp the pole, is where they are slightly thicker, so you can adjust the clamps fine when the sections are slightly extended, but when fully closed, you just simply can't close the clamps anymore.
I see, you will simply get used to it. You just arent meant to close the pole at them parts. You close it about 2-3 inches away, thats how its meant to work. And when you set your clamps for use with the loctite DO NOT set them on that thicker bit of pole, otherwise it wont grip the rest of the pole. It seems that some people are having some teething problems, when you overcome them, youll be happy!!! Luke
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Hi luke, yea I managed to do the loctite, I'm just saying that at closed length, the place where the clamps clamp the pole, is where they are slightly thicker, so you can adjust the clamps fine when the sections are slightly extended, but when fully closed, you just simply can't close the clamps anymore.
I see, you will simply get used to it. You just arent meant to close the pole at them parts. You close it about 2-3 inches away, thats how its meant to work. And when you set your clamps for use with the loctite DO NOT set them on that thicker bit of pole, otherwise it wont grip the rest of the pole. It seems that some people are having some teething problems, when you overcome them, youll be happy!!! Luke
Well, I appreciate your thoughts on it, but that's simply not true that it's supposed to be used that way, it didn't come shipped that way, and all pictures I've seen of the closed length show that there is a 5cm, 4,5cm, and 3cm gap between the clamps, not 2-3 inches, to further illustrate it, it wouldn't be 5'7 anymore closed, like it says on the website. Otherwise that'd simply be false marketing. Name me a pole that you have to do that with.
If you have to extend it another half an inch or so, multiply that by 5, and you have a 5" longer pole? What's the deal with that.
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There is meant to be a space between the clamps, maybe not as much as 3 inches but thats how it should be used. Here is mine:
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm140/rupertthehair/IMG_3008.jpg)
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Does yours collapse into that position Luke? Mine don't.
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yes, thats the picture of it above. Where do your collapse to? Luke
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Around an inch to an inch and a half apart with the top section two and a half inches otherwise i can't close the clamp. Rough estimates and no two are the same.
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So closer than mine then? Luke
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Much
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And do they grip the rest of the pole fine...no twisting if put under pressure or sliding? Luke
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My gaps are : 30mm,20mm,53mm and 30mm and they grip ok but don't look as neat as yours. :)
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Interesting, your pole section lengths look exactly the same as mine Luke.
Just had a play around, and it doesn't me that much I guess, still clamps the pole well enough, we'll see what it does when the pole wears.
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Sounds like teething probs.
Just for a reference the Ionics poles also need bedding in and adjusting to just pinch the tube. (took me 2 weeks to realise that)
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Hi luke, yea I managed to do the loctite, I'm just saying that at closed length, the place where the clamps clamp the pole, is where they are slightly thicker, so you can adjust the clamps fine when the sections are slightly extended, but when fully closed, you just simply can't close the clamps anymore.
I see, you will simply get used to it. You just arent meant to close the pole at them parts. You close it about 2-3 inches away, thats how its meant to work. And when you set your clamps for use with the loctite DO NOT set them on that thicker bit of pole, otherwise it wont grip the rest of the pole. It seems that some people are having some teething problems, when you overcome them, youll be happy!!! Luke
If this is the case with your pole then it will need to go back and be trimmed,mine was the same and had to go back and have the sections cut slightly.The tolerances on the pole you have are wrong and this will be the only way to solve it otherwise when closed the pole will be longer.
Well, I appreciate your thoughts on it, but that's simply not true that it's supposed to be used that way, it didn't come shipped that way, and all pictures I've seen of the closed length show that there is a 5cm, 4,5cm, and 3cm gap between the clamps, not 2-3 inches, to further illustrate it, it wouldn't be 5'7 anymore closed, like it says on the website. Otherwise that'd simply be false marketing. Name me a pole that you have to do that with.
If you have to extend it another half an inch or so, multiply that by 5, and you have a 5" longer pole? What's the deal with that.
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Mine
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In action
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i already prefer my facelift
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And I prefer my Harris pole!! Did you guys really pay over £400 for that!!!! :o
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Horay!! back where I belong as a cleanitup God!!! ;D
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Hey dj I like the Simon Cowell trousers!!!! ;D
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And I prefer my Harris pole!! Did you guys really pay over £400 for that!!!! :o
Yes we know that by now, the SL-X will still have your decorators pole for breakfast, lunch and dinner, clamps are not perfect, but they still do the job well.
Maybe you should refrain from posting something if you can't actually contribute to the thread.
And since you are representing a company (aren't you?), you'd do well to act more professionally.
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Yes we know that by now, the SL-X will still have your decorators pole for breakfast, lunch and dinner, clamps are not perfect, but they still do the job well.
Maybe you should refrain from posting something if you can't actually contribute to the thread.
And since you are representing a company (aren't you?), you'd do well to act more professionally.
Ha Ha Ha!!! ;D ;D ;D Your a bundle of laughs aren't you Tim!!!! ;D Please explain how your £400 pole is better than my £15 pole? It does the job exactly the same, and the clamps don't need glueing every 5 minutes!!!! ;)
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.You know why they call that a arriss pole don`t you,cos it`s a pain in the arriss to having to keep buying a new 1 lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :-* :-* :-* :-*
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That pain in the arriss pole is qualaty lamb beefy lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.You know why they call that a arriss pole don`t you,cos it`s a pain in the arriss to having to keep buying a new 1 lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :-* :-* :-* :-*
did you make that up by yourself? lol
ive got a 24ft facelift, how easy is it to make it 34ft? will i need to buy a new gf base section?
got anything you wanna sell,
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.You know why they call that a arriss pole don`t you,cos it`s a pain in the arriss to having to keep buying a new 1 lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :-* :-* :-* :-*
did you make that up by yourself? lol
ive got a 24ft facelift, how easy is it to make it 34ft? will i need to buy a new gf base section?
got anything you wanna sell,
Aye. 'Is arrisss
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.You know why they call that a arriss pole don`t you,cos it`s a pain in the arriss to having to keep buying a new 1 lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :-* :-* :-* :-*
did you make that up by yourself? lol
ive got a 24ft facelift, how easy is it to make it 34ft? will i need to buy a new gf base section?
got anything you wanna sell,
You would need 2 buy 2 more sections and a new base section,about £250.
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.
Thanks for the offer but I am more than happy with my B&Q pole, so is Dai and the many other users of this fantstic pole! ;)
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.
Thanks for the offer but I am more than happy with my B&Q pole, so is Dai and the many other users of this fantstic pole! ;)
Yeah and there a bit good with a paintbrush aswell so i`m told lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah and there a bit good with a paintbrush aswell so i`m told lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure that they are, thats why decorators use them, because they are a quality, lightweight and hardwearing pole! How many decorators do you think have decided that instead of getting a harris pole they will pay out over £400 on a window cleaners pole instead? None! because they are not that stupid!!!! ;)
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I've been trying to figure out what company you do represent Groundhog, danne but you're good. Is it Ionics?
Brilliant cover, your acting stupid all the time, but that Harris pole was just a bit of idiocy too far. Who's going to beleive that? Are you cleaning windows or giving them a coat of emulsion?
If you ask me the real idiocy here is spending over £400 on a pole that has clamps that don't work, when you could get a quality pole for under £15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Glad your online grounhog I've been sticking up for you. I'll leave it with you now mate.
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Yeah and there a bit good with a paintbrush aswell so i`m told lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure that they are, thats why decorators use them, because they are a quality, lightweight and hardwearing pole! How many decorators do you think have decided that instead of getting a harris pole they will pay out over £400 on a window cleaners pole instead? None! because they are not that stupid!!!! ;)
It`s like Groundhog day all over again,if you want to use a pikey pole then so be it lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Glad your online grounhog I've been sticking up for you. I'll leave it with you now mate.
I see that you have removed your post Discount, did you realise how silly it made you look?? It's a good job I used a quote from it in my previous post!!! ;D
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if you want to use a pikey pole then so be it lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Try one for yourself, I can guarantee that you will be pleasantly suprised by the quality of this pole!!
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I will try 1 just for you,i`ll get 1 tomorrow.How did you secure the brush and i take it it`s an outside with the pole hose job,what`s the reach with it.
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I like a joke groundhog, but we are screwing luke and alexs thread up. Some people on here do want serious info on the slx, that's why I delete. Cheers.
Listen, why not start your own 'arris poling post?
Just because it works and you like it why turn your guns on Gardners?
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I will try 1 just for you,i`ll get 1 tomorrow.How did you secure the brush and i take it it`s an outside with the pole hose job,what`s the reach with it.
I copied Dai's instructions from my thread 'Dai, advice on B&Q pole please' Its very simple, and the hose goes through the pole, you just have to drill a couple of holes. Give it a try and let me know how you get on. :)
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What`s the reach with it.
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What`s the reach with it.
It is a 5 metre pole, but if you read the thread that I gave in my previous post, jeff Brimble I believe explains how you can make an extension for the pole.
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groundhog, that Harris seems like its serving you well. Glad youve found something nice to suit your business, just like some have us have with the SL-X, Luke
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groundhog, that Harris seems like its serving you well. Glad youve found something nice to suit your business, just like some have us have with the SL-X, Luke
I`ll tell you why people are having so much trouble with the SLX and that`s because there using a brush that`s to heavy,a heavy brush puts to much strain on the clamps.
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I like a joke groundhog, but we are screwing luke and alexs thread up. Some people on here do want serious info on the slx, that's why I delete. Cheers.
Listen, why not start your own 'arris poling post?
Just because it works and you like it why turn your guns on Gardners?
I may well start my own thread on the Harris pole, but I think that this forum should be about us window cleaners helping each other out and exchanging tips and ideas, not about manafacturers advertising and pushing their products. I think that Gardeners are great and I use them reguarly, but if I can help other window cleaners save themelves a fortune on poles then I will, thats just what Dai did for me!!! ;)
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groundhog, that Harris seems like its serving you well. Glad youve found something nice to suit your business, just like some have us have with the SL-X, Luke
Thanks Luke, the only difference is about £400!!! and a few dodgy clamps!!!! ;D
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groundhog, that Harris seems like its serving you well. Glad youve found something nice to suit your business, just like some have us have with the SL-X, Luke
I`ll tell you why people are having so much trouble with the SLX and that`s because there using a brush that`s to heavy,a heavy brush puts to much strain on the clamps.
Eh? howzat then?
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Thanks Luke, the only difference is about £400!!! and a few dodgy clamps!!!!
!!!!Actualy about £500...but mine didnt have dodgy clamps!!!! Luke
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Groundhog i`ve got a brand new facelift in the shed if you want to try that,i`ve got poles coming out of my arris.You know why they call that a arriss pole don`t you,cos it`s a pain in the arriss to having to keep buying a new 1 lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :-* :-* :-* :-*
did you make that up by yourself? lol
ive got a 24ft facelift, how easy is it to make it 34ft? will i need to buy a new gf base section?
got anything you wanna sell,
so what poles have you got for sale?
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!!!!Actualy about £500...but mine didnt have dodgy clamps!!!! Luke
Yet!!! ;)
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I like the clamps, they're fast & easy to use. My clamps don't butt up flush but to be honest i prefere them this way, especialy as they are so slim they are easier to use with a bit of seperation. If you mark the pole with a pen or summat just as it starts to taper out to the clamp this will give you a possitive guide to where to stop & clamp it, makes it easier & quicker this way with a visual guide. Top pole the sl-x. Far better than my harris- which is retired to trad work only! ;)
Tony
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Yet!!!
The clamps are actually BRILLIANT, they are far far far better than any clmaps I have used before.....including xtels, brodex, trad type harris poles etc Luke
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The clamps are actually BRILLIANT, they are far far far better than any clmaps I have used before.....including xtels, brodex, trad type harris poles etc Luke
And so they should be for £500!!!! :o Do you honestly believe that your pole is worth that kind of money!! I know for a fact that I could work as fast or faster than you using my £15 B&Q pole, so I don't see what you mean when you say that it pays for itself? ???
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Its not alot of money for a tool is it. Its looks really professional too. Its light and super siff......thats what I want in my pole.......only the SL-X offers all to the highest degree, so I bought it, and would never regret buying it because its fantastic and is a pleasure to work with, Luke
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my £15 B&Q pole
I live pretty far from B&Q, but your enthusiasm has rubbed off on me. I really want to see one, when I next go near a B&Q I will check it out. Describe what it looks like and what size it is? Luke
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The clamps are actually BRILLIANT, they are far far far better than any clmaps I have used before.....including xtels, brodex, trad type harris poles etc Luke
And so they should be for £500!!!! :o Do you honestly believe that your pole is worth that kind of money!! I know for a fact that I could work as fast or faster than you using my £15 B&Q pole, so I don't see what you mean when you say that it pays for itself? ???
And what happens when you want to go above 5m? then to ground floor? then to 30ft? then to 25ft? then to 21ft? then to 18ft? then back to 30ft etc.etc. how many poles do you carry? how much time do you spend swapping poles around?
What may the manager of a commercial job that you charge 40+ pound per hour think when he sees you using a B&Q decorators stick? You know- the one who questioned your quote, so you had to explain about the investment & running costs of wfp ;D ;D :-[
Tony
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macmac does have a point, the SL-X looks really good and professional. These days I only carry 2 poles to work from ground floor to 50ft plus, the SL-X and SL2, Luke
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Yet!!!
The clamps are actually BRILLIANT, they are far far far better than any clmaps I have used before.....including xtels, brodex, trad type harris poles etc Luke
Luke the facelift clamps are far better,try a facelift 24ft carbon i think your be very surprised.I`ve used all poles and the facelift clamps are the best bar none.
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Cobbled together system, decoraters pole, earns the most money on the forum, minimum charge £25 targets massive country houses, has commercial work offers coming out of his ears? Here we go again ::) ........ yawn.
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I`m not using the SLX at the moment it`s annoying me,i`ll wait for the new brush before i get it out again.Using it at height with any standard brush will eventually ruin it.
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my £15 B&Q pole
I live pretty far from B&Q, but your enthusiasm has rubbed off on me. I really want to see one, when I next go near a B&Q I will check it out. Describe what it looks like and what size it is? Luke
The pole is made of alliminium and is silver in colour, it has black clamps and it is a 3 section pole, total length 5 metres (Jeff Brimble explains how to modify it into a longer pole on another thread) And for £15 it is fantstic value for money!! I really don't mean to dis your pole Luke, I just can't see that it is worth paying out that kind of money, when there is a viable alternative available for a few quid! Try it out, I think you will be surprised at how good it is!! :)
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Cobbled together system, decoraters pole, earns the most money on the forum, minimum charge £25 targets massive country houses, has commercial work offers coming out of his ears? Here we go again ::) ........ yawn.
Who`s that then.
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Ill check it out groundhog, always open to all ideas, Luke
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NWH, can you go to my Tucker brush thread, there is a post for you with NWH at the top LOL, Luke
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Cobbled together system, decoraters pole, earns the most money on the forum, minimum charge £25 targets massive country houses, has commercial work offers coming out of his ears? Here we go again ::) ........ yawn.
Hi DJ! Sorry to be rude about your Simon Cowell trousers earlier!! ;D All that you have written above is absolutely true, and it is how I run my business, I target the best work that I can get, charge the highest prices that the market will allow, and keep my costs to a minimum!!! Good business sense in my book mate!!!! ;)
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A year ago i was telling everyone how brilliant a fishing pole was for £60 and although they are good they don't come close to a quality pole unfortunately. You can't beat telescopic for speed and you can't beat carbon for stiffness/lightness. No doubt the decoraters pole does the job but in a years time i doubt you will be so impressed. You usually get what you pay for in this world. The SLX is that good that i prefer it over my S2 for three storeys.
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There is no unifrom way to run your business and so many things vary between people, their dislikes, likes, area they live in, budget, upbringing, race, religion, etc etc
This means that no business is identical and so many people love what others hate.....marmite!!!
It doesnt mean the SL-X is better. It means its better for you, and of course you can try and persuade people its better for them but they wont all listen, because the Harris pole is really the best thing for groundhogs business, because what he wanted out of a pole is fullfilled by the Harris, Luke
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Hi All...well my SL-X arrived here in the land of cloggs and cheese 2 days ago...took it out yesterday and I the pole was great used it all day without reverting to my small poles for downstairs windows....ok so the clamps take some getting used to...but my biggest surprise was the Bently brush I ordered with it...I have been using Vikan both oval/flocked & rectangle mono and I have to say I on first impressions really like the Bently..I do not imagine it will last as long as the Vikan but it felt good using it and getting the bristles into nooks and crannies...and felt good on the glass too....
Sorry if this has already been mentioned ...but have been without internet for the past week...just got it back.
Cheers
Dave.
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Had some first hand experience with the harris pole, and even though I appreciate your feedback sometimes groundhog, the harris pole is seriously rubbish, even the unger aluminiums are better, it was floppy, bad clamps, quite long when closed. Yea, it's cheap, but you get what you pay for.
So yes, breakfast lunch and dinner like I said.
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sorry mate ytour wrong there harris poles clamps def better than unger.
the pole suits my needs for now prob wont last forever but at a tiny price to
replace who cares.
slx poles sounds cracking but not going to outlay £400 unless i have to
each to their own ;)
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Had some first hand experience with the harris pole, and even though I appreciate your feedback sometimes groundhog, the harris pole is seriously rubbish, even the unger aluminiums are better, it was floppy, bad clamps, quite long when closed. Yea, it's cheap, but you get what you pay for.
So yes, breakfast lunch and dinner like I said.
I think you must have been looking at the wrong pole mate!!! the pole is about 6' when closed, its very light, very stiff and in my opinion the clamps are excellent and very easy to use!!! I've used unger poles and this is miles better!!! From what you have said above I seriously doubt that you have ever used a harris pole to clean windows with!! I use mine everyday and wouldn't change it for anything!!!
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Had some first hand experience with the harris pole, and even though I appreciate your feedback sometimes groundhog, the harris pole is seriously rubbish, even the unger aluminiums are better, it was floppy, bad clamps, quite long when closed. Yea, it's cheap, but you get what you pay for.
So yes, breakfast lunch and dinner like I said.
I think you must have been looking at the wrong pole mate!!! the pole is about 6' when closed, its very light, very stiff and in my opinion the clamps are excellent and very easy to use!!! I've used unger poles and this is miles better!!! From what you have said above I seriously doubt that you have ever used a harris pole to clean windows with!! I use mine everyday and wouldn't change it for anything!!!
The label said Harris pole 5m.
Yes it is quite light, I must agree, which was nice, but the locking cones on the Unger are sturdier, I can know, because I have a 20', and whilst it's not as floppy as an Xtel, compared to the SLX it's quite floppy, and the closed length is not as practical as the SL-X. I just don't see how you comment on the SL-X when you've never used it. Seriously, it's in a completely different league. Just give it a go, you will be pleasantly surprised. :)
Sure if I had a low budget I would have gone with a harris pole, or something similar, but I have the budget to invest in good quality tools, that will last me ages, and trust me, I'm sure that I don't make as much money as you do, I don't have a full round yet, but still I will earn my money back with it.
To each his own I guess, I wouldn't be that unhappy with the Harris pole, but I would if I compared it to cleaning with the SL-X for a day.
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Tim,
whats the weight of the SLx, please ?
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The label said Harris pole 5m.
Yes it is quite light, I must agree, which was nice, but the locking cones on the Unger are sturdier, I can know, because I have a 20', and whilst it's not as floppy as an Xtel, compared to the SLX it's quite floppy, and the closed length is not as practical as the SL-X. I just don't see how you comment on the SL-X when you've never used it. Seriously, it's in a completely different league. Just give it a go, you will be pleasantly surprised. :)
Sure if I had a low budget I would have gone with a harris pole, or something similar, but I have the budget to invest in good quality tools, that will last me ages, and trust me, I'm sure that I don't make as much money as you do, I don't have a full round yet, but still I will earn my money back with it.
To each his own I guess, I wouldn't be that unhappy with the Harris pole, but I would if I compared it to cleaning with the SL-X for a day.
Just try using the harris pole for cleaning windows for a couple of days and you will quickly realise that the clamps are excellent, incredibly quick and easy to use and so far they seem incredibly robust!
I haven't commented on the sl-x, I have simply tried to help other window cleaners not to be quite so easily parted with their money, when a more than adequate alternative is available for a few quid!!!
My harris pole paid for itself within the first 20 minutes of me using it, and I know for a fact that using an sl-x would not make the slightest difference to how quickly I can work or the quality of the clean!! that is why I will not be wasting my money!!!! ;D
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ive just been on gardiners website, and it says that the slx weighs 1540g and is 5ft 7" closed.
ive a harris pole that i have set up in the van with a soft flocked brush on, which i use on older painted windows, as the brush not so aggresive to the paint.
i dont use it all day just on a few older windows.
imo its a very usefull tool to have at a very small cost, im sure there is no comparison to the slx, but its not trying to compete.
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Hi All...well my SL-X arrived here in the land of cloggs and cheese 2 days ago...took it out yesterday and I the pole was great used it all day without reverting to my small poles for downstairs windows....ok so the clamps take some getting used to...but my biggest surprise was the Bently brush I ordered with it...I have been using Vikan both oval/flocked & rectangle mono and I have to say I on first impressions really like the Bently..I do not imagine it will last as long as the Vikan but it felt good using it and getting the bristles into nooks and crannies...and felt good on the glass too....
Sorry if this has already been mentioned ...but have been without internet for the past week...just got it back.
Cheers
Dave.
Bentley works well on the SLX but doesn't have a lot of scrubbing power for first cleans and tends to get splatted against the glass due to the stiffness of the pole. I'm very happy with a Vikan mono at the moment untill Alex's new brush comes out.
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Thanks Steve,
so approximately, SLx 1540g 5ft 7" but reaches higher.
Unger is 1302g 6ft 6" 5.5
Harris is 1156g 6ft 2" 5m
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Thanks Steve,
so approximately, SLx 1540g 5ft 7" but reaches higher.
Unger is 1302g 6ft 6" 5.5
Harris is 1156g 6ft 2" 5m
So the £15 harris is considerably lighter than the £400+ SLx!!! :o ;D
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haven't tried the pole but have used ionics, vikan and bentley brushes. I think i read on here that they last about 6 months or so. I might be wrong??
But what a crap brush when they have had a bit of use.
I checked a 1st clean the last time i used it (since dumped) and what a terrible result. Loads of marks that were on the window that should have come off easily.
Went over again with a vikan and was perfect. I don't have any work over 30 feet and would rather have a heavier brush that does the job.
I wouldn't recommend a bentley to anyone except maybe on maintenance cleans that have always come up good before.
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I went to B&Q yesterday to buy one of these Harris poles that a few on here are going on about,i picked it up and extended it and LOL oh and then i LOL again,what a load of toilet.If you think you can clean window`s with that then you must either be a wishfull thinker or stupid,i should have gone by my gut feeling and not bothered.I take it the guys that use don`t clean window`s over 8ft or so,i can see it now it would be like fighting a crocodile trying to work with that.
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I went to B&Q yesterday to buy one of these Harris poles that a few on here are going on about,i picked it up and extended it and LOL oh and then i LOL again,what a load of toilet.If you think you can clean window`s with that then you must either be a wishfull thinker or stupid,i should have gone by my gut feeling and not bothered.I take it the guys that use don`t clean window`s over 8ft or so,i can see it now it would be like fighting a crocodile trying to work with that.
I'm getting a bit fed up with this! Don't come on here and lie >:( because to make the above statement you have clearly never seen or used a harris pole! I am going to try to get my son to make a short video of me using my harris pole and post it on youtube to put an end to this sort of garbage! The pole is great, I used it today fully extended to clean some windows above a conservatory, the pole was nearly horizontal, and managed the job brilliantly!
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Never seen or used it,i went down there to buy 1 yesterday but didn`t bother as it`s just another painters pole end of story.Your saying it`s some sort of new technology,for christs sakes man it`s a Blo*** decorators pole get a grip of yourself.What`s new about it,please tell me and the rest of us,am i missing something here.What your doing is your putting a brush on the end of a painters pole.
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I too am having fun with the Harris pole. 10 years ago there was only the evergreen Unger (which I managed to get to 42ft) or the Excel to compare with, one high price the other low. Similar to today so not much changes as regards to choice. But the Harris is an ideal starter pole and I am trying to remain objective. I do have the choice of the highest/lightest pole in the world at 420g for the same 5m height or at 432g a diy F16
Having actually used the Harris daily for a few weeks now I find the Harris is a serious pole for begginers and pros.
I guess Lukes thread is a never ending story as we all have our own preferences and budget. :)
ps the bentley is the pits.
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Thanks Steve,
so approximately, SLx 1540g 5ft 7" but reaches higher.
Unger is 1302g 6ft 6" 5.5
Harris is 1156g 6ft 2" 5m
So the £15 harris is considerably lighter than the £400+ SLx!!! :o ;D
Yes & half the length, numpty ::)
Pro's & conns, I, personally am a pro! ;)
Tony
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err not quite, only 2.54m and you could always stick a £19 3.5m extension to it and/or also fit it to the SL-X ?
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JEFF
are excel and x tel different poles?
I'm a pro too and what I look for is speed and ease of use. My garage is full of poles I never use - the big unger with conex connections- a four section trad ali pulex- a twenty four foot tele fg universal.......
They remain unused because I don't like them.And this has mainly to so with weight and time issues.
Groundhog promotes the Harriss because it's cheap and it does the job. Jeff agrees with him, but to me this is penny pinching.
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Excels are horrible heavy bendy monsters extels are a big improvent - smaller diameter, shorter collapsed length but still bendy if fibreglass. I had a 19' excel and threw it in my garage in disgust used a 21' extel for several weeks as a main pole and found it ok with a light brush.
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And is x tel different to ex tel?
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He He, I guess all the questioning guys have loads of unused bits.
No idea bout the difference -sorry. I did pick a couple up at a show but they were way to heavy.
But its a learning curve and we all get there in the end. Some of the newer guys can do shortcuts if they listen to some of the advice here and not have to spend big bucks when they start.
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I went to B&Q yesterday to buy one of these Harris poles that a few on here are going on about,i picked it up and extended it and LOL oh and then i LOL again,what a load of toilet.If you think you can clean window`s with that then you must either be a wishfull thinker or stupid,i should have gone by my gut feeling and not bothered.I take it the guys that use don`t clean window`s over 8ft or so,i can see it now it would be like fighting a crocodile trying to work with that.
i think you must have looked at the wrong pole, i have several profession poles, so have something to go by, one things for sure, it beats any x-tel glass fiber pole, the one i have is very rigid with just a little bit of play, you have to be looking at the wrong pole, o and a painters pole, is no different from a wfp pole, they are all telescopic, just different materials and clamps,
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any chance of getting this thread deleted?
it started off with 'I love the slx so much blah blah blah want to have alexs babies blah blah blah'
now its really gone downhill 'my painters pole is the business, blah blah blah no its rubbish blah blah blah'
crap thread - just like the earnings threads.
no, it really is - I really don't mind the Alex G appreciation society but its gone too far, and as for slaggin off someone elses pole - whats that about? Its them using it not you so whats your problem?
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am sure it will be deleted alan, strange posting though, one min claims it to be rubbish, in the next post hes never seen or handled one ;D am sure nwh is winding us all up,
NWH first post (picked it up and extended it and LOL oh and then i LOL again,)
2nd post (Never seen or used it,i went down there to buy 1 yesterday but didn`t bother as it`s just another painters pole) its a big wind up ;D
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What your doing is your putting a brush on the end of a painters pole.
What I'm doing is putting a brush on the end of a pole, the same as you! the only difference is that yours cost over £400 and mine cost £15!!!
Why do you think that a decorators pole should be any different to a window cleaners pole? If anything they need to be more hardwearing! I will be posting my video on youtube tomorrow so that everyone can make up their own minds. ;)
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Each to there own preference, as long as it cleans the windows and the customer is happy, what does it matter what the pole cost
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Each to there own preference, as long as it cleans the windows and the customer is happy, what does it matter what the pole cost
well said armadillo
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Each to there own preference, as long as it cleans the windows and the customer is happy, what does it matter what the pole cost
Quite a lot to your profits!!! ;)
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This thread has truly run its course now.
Locked.