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Title: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 30, 2008, 06:51:05 pm
Seems like we're getting more and more peeps saying they earn zillions per week blah blah blah, but really, how common is turning over £300 a day?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: LWC on January 30, 2008, 06:52:03 pm
ive never done it on my own, with 2 of us yes, but its not every day, id sure like it to be though!
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 30, 2008, 06:53:29 pm
On your own I mean.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 30, 2008, 06:54:19 pm
now my guess is that "Run of he mill, I turnover lots more than that" will come out on top ;)

you should have added 500 a day, that normally wins, it'll confuse them if you dont  ::)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: supernova77 on January 30, 2008, 06:54:30 pm
Oh please no - Not a post questioning earnings... They go on forever!!!   :'(
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on January 30, 2008, 06:54:44 pm
No...  :o

But it would  be nice if I could  ::)

Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: [GQC] Tim on January 30, 2008, 06:59:31 pm
Definitely not common for traditional. For me this was a once only. And probably (highly likely) a last.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Dean Aspects on January 30, 2008, 07:01:35 pm
I have the potential but have never actually done it on my normal round but have done 3 one offs that earned me more wish they were more often

Dean
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: mick hay on January 30, 2008, 07:07:06 pm
I hate these threads....lets put it this way...

If you do, you wont for long, cos all thse wanna be w/c will be thinking  " if they can do 300 i can easily do 200!!!

Please work it out for yourself and dont put a "poll" on for everyone to exaggerate there earnings, and attract all the wanna be's or the immigrants that everyone is worried will take their work.....be your own fault if they do!!!!  >:(

Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: supernova77 on January 30, 2008, 07:09:20 pm
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I hate these threads....lets put it this way...

If you do, you wont for long, cos all thse wanna be w/c will be thinking  " if they can do 300 i can easily do 200!!!

Please work it out for yourself and dont put a "poll" on for everyone to exaggerate there earnings, and attract all the wanna be's or the immigrants that everyone is worried will take their work.....be your own fault if they do!!!!  Angry

Well said Mick!

It would be interesting to find out the "average" daily takings of all the forum members... It would be nowhere near £300!

Andy
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 07:11:00 pm
I never talk earnings but one thing I will say is I earn much more than minimum wage.....much more. I dont like to talk money because it can make you look like a bragger to one person and to another....a poorper!  Luke
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: NWH on January 30, 2008, 07:11:27 pm
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I hate these threads....lets put it this way...

If you do, you wont for long, cos all thse wanna be w/c will be thinking  " if they can do 300 i can easily do 200!!!

Please work it out for yourself and dont put a "poll" on for everyone to exaggerate there earnings, and attract all the wanna be's or the immigrants that everyone is worried will take their work.....be your own fault if they do!!!!  Angry

Well said Mick!

It would be interesting to find out the "average" daily takings of all the forum members... It would be nowhere near £300!

Andy
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 30, 2008, 07:15:07 pm
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I hate these threads....lets put it this way...

If you do, you wont for long, cos all thse wanna be w/c will be thinking  " if they can do 300 i can easily do 200!!!

Please work it out for yourself and dont put a "poll" on for everyone to exaggerate there earnings, and attract all the wanna be's or the immigrants that everyone is worried will take their work.....be your own fault if they do!!!!  Angry

Well said Mick!

It would be interesting to find out the "average" daily takings of all the forum members... It would be nowhere near £300!

Andy

is that real earnings, or dreamer earnings

as the later would be 572 quid a day, but only if you have a NEW signwritten van, pro installed van system, uniform, carry ID cards, have a PDA with george, never list a mobile phone number, have joined ALL trade outfits, have a " work-safe " certificate, have been on the Ionics course, can eat a "very hot spicey pot noodle", can drink 20 pints of tennants Super lager, can eat the hottest curry your curry house can make, can get home and service the mrs with her best mate all night long

then get up and eat THREE shredded wheat
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: supernova77 on January 30, 2008, 07:16:55 pm
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is that real earnings, or dreamer earnings

as the later would be 572 quid a day, but only if you have a NEW signwritten van, pro installed van system, uniform, carry ID cards, have a PDA with george, never list a mobile phone number, have joined ALL trade outfits, have a " work-safe " certificate, have been on the Ionics course, can eat a "very hot spicey pot noodle", can drink 20 pints of tennants Super lager, can eat the hottest curry your curry house can make, can get home and service the mrs with her best mate all night long

then get up and eat THREE shredded wheat

It's a nightmare... I still can't manage those three shredded wheat!

Andy
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: dai on January 30, 2008, 07:25:16 pm
If I average £100 I'm happy. If I worked dawn to dusk on June 21st then I may just  reach that. Dai
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: d s windowcleaning on January 30, 2008, 07:28:43 pm
im with dai on that £100 a day & im happy . but theres one person we all no of who earns loads more jdmarco ring any bells  ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: frames to panes on January 30, 2008, 07:30:14 pm
I would have to move north beyond the artic circle to get enough summer hours in.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 30, 2008, 07:34:24 pm
I agree that these invites to bragg posts are not helpfull and all the usual suspects have posted- bragging about not being braggarts-.

It's another opportunity to knock the hot people- the one's who add interest and value- and are the backbone of the forum. What about the people who brag they only work three days, or only work five hours, or have other higher priorities in life?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tosh on January 30, 2008, 07:35:20 pm
If I average £100 I'm happy. If I worked dawn to dusk on June 21st then I may just  reach that. Dai

Dai,

I think I'm right in saying that your mortgage is paid off; although I know you have a young family.

I'd be MORE than happy to earn that with no mortgage.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 07:39:25 pm
Think it is best to keep to oneself your earnings as to some it can come across as bragging , and to ones just starting out can put across unrealistic expectations !  I dont know of any other trade who would post threads about how much they could earn in a day ! Remember the posters in the war years ...."walls have ears "
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: frames to panes on January 30, 2008, 07:39:43 pm
Dai did say average per day so i suppose he might mean £500 a week?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 30, 2008, 07:42:56 pm
I agree that these invites to bragg posts are not helpfull and all the usual suspects have posted- bragging about not being braggarts-.

It's another opportunity to knock the hot people- the one's who add interest and value- and are the backbone of the forum. What about the people who brag they only work three days, or only work five hours, or have other higher priorities in life?

oh deary me

you might find the usual suspects who will post on here , are also the usual suspects who are the most active members, its not a crime to have a opinion and post it

oh and you also forget to add " those who brag that they have a degree " and " those who brag they have a VW campervan " and " help others on  a DIY site / forum ***"  just so i know it was geared at me  ::) ::)


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Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 30, 2008, 07:46:42 pm
yes..... But I was joking.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 07:49:16 pm
Well I earn £2000 per day so nuh nuh nuh...nu nu  : ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: hants_rob on January 30, 2008, 07:49:51 pm
just starting out part time and the most i have done is 50 quid but then i've only got ten houses and have only been out twice on me own so far!

a steep learning curve i can tell you!
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Londoner on January 30, 2008, 07:50:23 pm
Well I for one definitely DO NOT earn anywhere like £300 a day and thats the truth.  And while I am willing to concede that a few whizzers might hit that figure once in a blue moon I thnk the whole idea is total bo11ocks.

Get real
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: dai on January 30, 2008, 07:51:18 pm
If I average £100 I'm happy. If I worked dawn to dusk on June 21st then I may just  reach that. Dai

Dai,

I think I'm right in saying that your mortgage is paid off; although I know you have a young family.

I'd be MORE than happy to earn that with no mortgage.

Yes and the old age pension comes in handy too, I haven't touched it yet. Dai
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 07:52:43 pm
Dai, one thing I do admire is honesty, and while that figure may not be the most in the world it is above what people are earning your area ( Flintshire ) so well done  :) Luke
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 30, 2008, 07:53:07 pm
er, it wasn't ME that started this... read here _____________>


http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=49538.0
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 30, 2008, 07:53:45 pm
Well I for one definitely DO NOT earn anywhere like £300 a day and thats the truth.  And while I am willing to concede that a few whizzers might hit that figure once in a blue moon I thnk the whole idea is total bo11ocks.

Get real
what he said ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: johnny_h on January 30, 2008, 07:54:57 pm
Well I for one definitely DO NOT earn anywhere like £300 a day and thats the truth.  And while I am willing to concede that a few whizzers might hit that figure once in a blue moon I thnk the whole idea is total bo11ocks.

Get real
what he said ;D ;D ;D
ditto  :)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 07:55:05 pm
My last day of trad was my highest earning day up to then, then when I went wfp, it went down just slightly and now its above my trad record, Luke
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 30, 2008, 08:01:52 pm
My last day of trad was my highest earning day up to then, then when I went wfp, it went down just slightly and now its above my trad record, Luke
and again ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:02:01 pm
Luke is that sam from life on mars waving at me ?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 08:03:27 pm
Yes, I love that program, Ashes to Ashes looks good too!!! Luke
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Skyglide on January 30, 2008, 08:09:32 pm
Matt and Vince are spot on. The real world of window cleaning is not like fishermans tales.
I think this whole earning loads is hype put round by some of the WFP suppliers.
For a start, if you were hitting £300 per day plus you would not have time or energy to sit in front of a computer.
Chris
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:13:34 pm
ending was rubbish though !
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 08:15:53 pm
The ending wasnt exactly what I was expecting but I liked it. It is being re made for the American market as we speak,

http://domeofstars.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=25f6955c80600eb6760ad205ceb19182&board=30.0

Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:18:22 pm
What was the name of his girlfriend ? she was lovelly reminded me of my past LOL . :P
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 08:25:12 pm
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/images/2006/07/20/gallery_03_400x300.jpg)

WPC Annie Cartwright (Liz White)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:28:08 pm
You have made a middle a middle aged man very happy  ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 08:31:14 pm
I met the man who does vehicles for these type of programs at Granada in Manchester, at the time he was parking the "Myra Hindley" car for the recent drama of her life. He told me that the old car props market was getting monopolised by a woman in the industry, so its only him and her doing it!!!! The Quattro in Ashes to Ashes looks lovely! Luke
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:32:41 pm
am i right in believing annie cartwright wont be in ashes to ashes ?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 08:34:01 pm
Yes, its the horrible skinny woman from Spooks

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Ashes_to_ashes.jpg/240px-Ashes_to_ashes.jpg)

Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 30, 2008, 08:39:08 pm
I don't want to refer to overall earnings as they are between me, my accountant, and the IR.  However, I have managed £300 on my own a few times now on the better parts of my round.  I usually feel pretty knackered afterwards and wouldn't want to do it too often anyway if it feels like that.  I actually managed the equivalent of £400 recently but that's the only time it's ever happened.  I say "equivalent" because it was a proportion of a much larger job on top of getting up very early to do shop fronts.  I definitely wouldn't want to do too many like that.  Nowhere to spend it in the graveyard.  Of course, this is not at all typical of overall turnover as the days referred to above are exceptional for me.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: SonOfFormby on January 30, 2008, 08:39:14 pm
am i right in believing annie cartwright wont be in ashes to ashes ?

I read she was in it

Lee
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: SonOfFormby on January 30, 2008, 08:41:20 pm
Seems like we're getting more and more peeps saying they earn zillions per week blah blah blah, but really, how common is turning over £300 a day?

Rosy, I read a post of yours recently where you commented, and I quote 'we all earn 50K pa on here, dont we?'

blah blah blah

Lee
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 30, 2008, 08:43:06 pm
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There will be a new recruit in the form of WPC Sharon 'Shaz' Granger (to be played by Montserrat Lombard) to replace WDC Annie Cartwright.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:46:24 pm
son of formby are you into window cleaning or life on mars ? judging by your inside info you are better cleaning windows !
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 30, 2008, 08:47:30 pm
Seems like we're getting more and more peeps saying they earn zillions per week blah blah blah, but really, how common is turning over £300 a day?

Rosy, I read a post of yours recently where you commented, and I quote 'we all earn 50K pa on here, dont we?'

blah blah blah

Lee
That was obviously tongue in cheek.  I am merely reflecting the occasional posts that rant about how much a w/c can earn daily/anually.  I think its called sarcasm.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 08:50:28 pm
"many a true word said in jest "
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 30, 2008, 08:56:54 pm
"many a true word said in jest "
cDo you mean that earning £50k a year is easily a hieved  and therefore not funny/impossible?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: SonOfFormby on January 30, 2008, 08:57:48 pm
son of formby are you into window cleaning or life on mars ? judging by your inside info you are better cleaning windows !

I said I read it somewhere that she was in it, which doesn't necessarily mean it was true, when or where I read it, thanks for the pointless post tho.

Lee
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 09:01:17 pm
sorry son of formby didnt mean to offend ! I was trying to have a joke but it didnt work !.........welcome to my world !
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: SonOfFormby on January 30, 2008, 09:06:53 pm
sorry son of formby didnt mean to offend ! I was trying to have a joke but it didnt work !.........welcome to my world !

Have you tried saying/writing something remotely funny, that works for me.....feel free to try again.....your world can't be that bad?? ;D

Lee
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jonah on January 30, 2008, 09:10:13 pm
A horse walkes into a bar..............barman says " why the long face " ?????
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: mick hay on January 30, 2008, 09:13:39 pm
Horse walks into a bar with some jump leads,

Barman says...dont mind the long face but dont go starting anything!!!
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: aztec on January 30, 2008, 10:07:22 pm
£300.00 per day easily done, just not every day!
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: alanwilson on January 30, 2008, 11:01:44 pm
matt - if when you say VWcampervan you are referring to me then fine but I've worked bloody hard and still owe money on it!!


I for one don't think its of any benefit to post earnings - I'm not against it though.  But try to remember that the guys up north can't charge the same as the cider drinkers, therefore to earn the same we have to work harder and longer.  For example today I (along with one staff) made £358.  Divide that by 2 and you get £179 each, so in effect on my own I made £179 today.  We cleaned 3 bed semi's all day @ £6 each plus one large bungalow @ £10

So thats 29 semi's EACH and half a large bungalow each.

Now if I lived say in Surrey, I could probably charge £10 per 3 bed semi and £18 for the bungalow, altogether that would have been 58 x £10 and 1 x £18 = £598 which turns out at £299 per man. 

So buy being able to charge a bit more you can see what a difference it can make, unfortunately we can't charge high prices up here (unlike someone who said 'just try it' - we can't, we have tried and it was a disaster. 

So before you put figures on the forum just remember that for some of us we can only dream of making that kind of money.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: neil100 on January 30, 2008, 11:05:42 pm
Yes.

Not Bragging,just answering the question.

But if my Dad was an Mp, I could earn a good wedge for doing nothing.And they dont need to declare it.

Nel :o  
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: supernova77 on January 30, 2008, 11:16:21 pm
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For example today I (along with one staff) made £358.  Divide that by 2 and you get £179 each

You split 50/50 with your staff  ???  ???  ???

Andy
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: alanwilson on January 30, 2008, 11:27:03 pm
No, I'm just saying thats basically how much work I did today, therefore if I was on my own thats how much I would have made, my staff get £65 a day plus extras.

Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 30, 2008, 11:56:05 pm
matt - if when you say VWcampervan you are referring to me then fine but I've worked bloody hard and still owe money on it!!


alan, if you read the whole post, it was in reply to Mr Solubility, he likes to have his little digs in reply to most posts i make

I agree that these invites to bragg posts are not helpfull and all the usual suspects have posted- bragging about not being braggarts-.

It's another opportunity to knock the hot people- the one's who add interest and value- and are the backbone of the forum. What about the people who brag they only work three days, or only work five hours, or have other higher priorities in life?




I work 3 days a week
Im Also proud that i prefere to spend family time instead of working 6 days a week chasing the ££££ -- Mr Solubility has issues with me because of it




oh deary me

you might find the usual suspects who will post on here , are also the usual suspects who are the most active members, its not a crime to have a opinion and post it

oh and you also forget to add " those who brag that they have a degree " and " those who brag they have a VW campervan " and " help others on  a DIY site / forum ***"  just so i know it was geared at me  ::) ::)



" those who brag that they have a degree " = ME ( though ive only mentioned i have a degree twice on here ) im sure some1 will be along to correct me though

" those who brag they have a VW campervan " = ME, i own a VW splitty

" help others on  a DIY site / forum "  = ME, i run the DIY site

:)

see, no ref to you meant, infact i didnt even know you have a VW campervan, you will allways be spending money on it ;)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: macmac on January 31, 2008, 12:01:54 am
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I work 3 days a week
Im Also proud that i prefere to spend family time instead of working 6 days a week chasing the ££££ -- Mr Solubility has issues with me because of it

My goal is to work 3 days a week, i'm down to 4 (weather premitting) ;)

tony
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: alanwilson on January 31, 2008, 12:03:42 am
would have helped if I had even looked at your avatar!!

sorry


whats your degree in?

me - Aeronautical Engineering (long time ago - everything was black and white back in them days), well, sort of.

but no engineering q's please, its so long ago and I hated it so much I only worked in aerospace for 6 yrs after leaving University (Boeing)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 31, 2008, 12:05:59 am
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I work 3 days a week
Im Also proud that i prefere to spend family time instead of working 6 days a week chasing the ££££ -- Mr Solubility has issues with me because of it

My goal is to work 3 days a week, i'm down to 4 (weather premitting) ;)

tony

watch it tony, he will start to have issues with you aswell

you can join my hippie - slacker - work shy - no ambition -  3 day a week gang though ( we wil have to think of a bit of a slicker name, we need a marketing guru for that ;))

if you want  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 31, 2008, 12:08:14 am
would have helped if I had even looked at your avatar!!

sorry


whats your degree in?

me - Aeronautical Engineering (long time ago - everything was black and white back in them days), well, sort of.

but no engineering q's please, its so long ago and I hated it so much I only worked in aerospace for 6 yrs after leaving University (Boeing)

Mine is in building studies, it was just a follow on from my carpentry days really, i never wanted a office type of job ( which is what the degree leads me too ) i allways prefered carpentry as it was outside and no-one bothering me
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: macmac on January 31, 2008, 12:08:51 am
would have helped if I had even looked at your avatar!!

sorry


whats your degree in?

me - Aeronautical Engineering (long time ago - everything was black and white back in them days), well, sort of.

but no engineering q's please, its so long ago and I hated it so much I only worked in aerospace for 6 yrs after leaving University (Boeing)

Could you please explain the affect of a wake vortex on a closely following flight? ;D

tony
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: macmac on January 31, 2008, 12:10:42 am
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we need a marketing guru for that )   

I know just the man ;)  ;D ;D

tony
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 31, 2008, 12:14:15 am
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we need a marketing guru for that )   

I know just the man ;)  ;D ;D

tony

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on January 31, 2008, 12:19:34 am
this is a bit of a funnny post as these things never really o anywhere...

i wont say how much i earn a year etc as thats my business..

but on my own i can earn 300  if i wanted too as my work is well priced at around 40 p/hr that i am not lying about but then again i only have 65 custies on my book as ido flats and offices and around 35 houses only

houses range from 18-95.00 all done every 5 weeks i work 3-4 days a week which suits me and the missus just fine ... i go on holiday quite a bit nothing flash but we do go away for a week at a time probably 4-5 times a year.

the money i earn relates to where i live in surrey we rent a 1 bed flat at 600 a month , but with a baby due in april we have to move so will be paying the region of 900-1000 before any bills.

so i think in relation to different parts of the country we all earn relative amounts....

i think in any trade you will get large fluctuations in charges... a friend of mine who mainly cleans gutters and windows are large blocks of flats can do in somedays and this is no lie 1000-1200 but then again he is really exspensive ..but hey each to there own .....

im sure to a degree we are all happy with what we earn for the amount of effort put in

shawn
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: alanwilson on January 31, 2008, 12:44:20 am
macmac I'll assume you are talking about wingtip vortices?

these are stable patterns of turbulence from the wingtip that are formed by the effect of the wingtips attitude as it passes through the air.  as they are stable patterns they can remain in situ for several minutes, they can affect another craft passing through them but this effect is dependant on a number of things - such as the x,y direction of the second craft, velocity and attitude etc.

the only times when they become dangerous is during take off and landing due to the fact that the plane will be travelling slower and the wings will be at a much higher angle of attack, thus the effect is dramatically increased as there is a much larger surface area for the vortices to act upon than say in near horizontal flight, where the airspeed is also much higher.

also because of the fact the wingtips are at a higher angle of attack the vortices created by this are very large thus posing a potential risk to following aircraft.

however due to the mass of most commercial jets wingtip vortices tend not to affect them severely, however the risk is amplified for smaller RJ's and light aircraft.

hope this helps
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 31, 2008, 07:55:56 am
I didn't know that and will add it to my store of knowledge. It was quite interesting. Have you ever seen an owl knocked out of the air by a vans/lorry turbulence, and then run over and killed by the following vehicle? It is apparently the one major causes in the decline of the owl population.

Reference the above comments they are fine by because they were good natured and humourous. It's the nasty comments I take exception too.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on January 31, 2008, 08:43:00 am
Another post or poll thats got nothing to do with window cleaning.

No wonder so many people leave the forum.......wonder where jdmarco is???


Bob..
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 31, 2008, 08:59:03 am
er, what has earning NOT got to do with w/c, blod?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: david68 on January 31, 2008, 10:02:43 am
We can earn £300 a day, this is with two of us.
About 6 hours of work time.

But this would be great if we had enough to do it every day.

This would be wfp up & down.

Dave
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Mo on January 31, 2008, 10:17:14 am
I'm cooking a beef steww right now for this coold weather ;D
Mo 8)
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Clear Vision on January 31, 2008, 10:22:39 am
I earn £500 a day! Easilly.

Hotestly  :-[
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: matt on January 31, 2008, 10:24:12 am
I earn £500 a day! Easilly.

Hotestly  :-[

if you had walked to my daughters school today, you could have had a extra 2p, as i saw 1 on the floor ;), really i did
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on January 31, 2008, 11:34:01 am
This site is to help each other with window cleaning. Who really cares what other people earn?

There have been so many other posts similar to this and what is the point of another?

Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 31, 2008, 11:41:46 am
This site is to help each other with window cleaning. Who really cares what other people earn?

There have been so many other posts similar to this and what is the point of another?


Because the other posts were talking about £200 a day, and yesterday someone posted a thread about earning over £300 in that day, that's the difference. When someone posts that they are earning £400 a day then i think that should be looked at too to see how widespread it is.

I don't happen to think that £300 is common, but it's looking more and more likely nowadays, wheras £200 is looking run of the mill and easily achieveable. I don't give a monkey what anyone else earns myself, but it's good to hear what might be possible, gives the rest of us an incentive I think.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on January 31, 2008, 11:46:05 am
Fair post..............where is jdmarco when you need him?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: frames to panes on January 31, 2008, 11:48:07 am
In a field caressing a Rangerover last time i saw him.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Tim Rose on January 31, 2008, 12:16:58 pm
Who is jdmarco?
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: jampot on January 31, 2008, 12:26:06 pm
The richest wc in the whole world  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on January 31, 2008, 12:34:38 pm
guys...this guy called alex must be on at least 3000 per day based on the info he supplied on another forum.....cleantech.....i copied and pasted the reply he gave.....wish it was me.

"hi there my company has a min charge regaurdless of size or even 1 window... otherwise it would never be cost effective to use waterfed, even the size of propertys on link we do at £20 (the min charge) but assuring the customers frames sills and windows are cleaned everytime, normally on a 6 to 8 week basis Wink i have 4 vans with 4 staff on domestic and 4 on com/ind, all very busy indeed....
alex..."

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Alex Algar, ACS Cleaning
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 31, 2008, 05:37:42 pm
would have helped if I had even looked at your avatar!!

sorry


whats your degree in?

me - Aeronautical Engineering (long time ago - everything was black and white back in them days), well, sort of.

but no engineering q's please, its so long ago and I hated it so much I only worked in aerospace for 6 yrs after leaving University (Boeing)

Could you please explain the affect of a wake vortex on a closely following flight? ;D

tony

I haven't seen Star Trek lately myself.
Title: Re: Can you earn £300 a day?
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 31, 2008, 05:46:18 pm
This site is to help each other with window cleaning. Who really cares what other people earn?

There have been so many other posts similar to this and what is the point of another?


Because the other posts were talking about £200 a day, and yesterday someone posted a thread about earning over £300 in that day, that's the difference. When someone posts that they are earning £400 a day then i think that should be looked at too to see how widespread it is.

I don't happen to think that £300 is common, but it's looking more and more likely nowadays, wheras £200 is looking run of the mill and easily achieveable. I don't give a monkey what anyone else earns myself, but it's good to hear what might be possible, gives the rest of us an incentive I think.

That bit I posted about £400 has been a one off.  Believe me, you would not have wanted to feel how my neck and shoulders felt at the end of it - and that was with a very lightweight high pole.  That's why I also said that I wouldn't want to do that too often anyway.  The £300 days I find I can't usually do them in the shorter daylight and the times I've managed it are in single figures anyway.   £200+ days now are fairly common for me though - something that only ever happened a couple of times before WFP.
I'm not bragging either in case anyone wondered.  I don't think I could physically sustain too many consecutive days of my highest earnings without needing physiotherapy of some sort and there are plenty of days where I just plod around for part of the day and don't even do £100.  That's my choice.  I could do more but I prefer to pace myself.