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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Bungle on April 16, 2020, 07:57:02 pm
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When are you thinking of returning to work? The government has said we are in lockdown for another 3 weeks at least. I think this is going to be recurring every 3 weeks for a long time.
Those that are working please don’t start telling us the guidelines etc, we are aware of them. I just want to get a feel of when you’re thinking of starting back.
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we will remain off for at least 2 more weeks - most likely all 3 - I don't think we have reached the peak yet, so based on that we shall keep the guys on furlough - hopefully the majority will carry on doing the social distancing bit and in 2 weeks all things going as it should and the virus is in decline then a return to work is on the cards
Darran
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The peak as you say are the ones being admitted as we speak then next week it’ll be the ones that didn’t stay in over 🐣,numbers will rise again and you could think it’s starting again but after that it should level off and start to drop drastically.
This is the information that’s been talked about over the last 10 days,after the next 3 weeks that’s when they’ll talk about reintegration even then it’ll be slow I reckon people will be keeping away from each other till this time next year probably longer.
What can you do if you work outside if you wait that long you’ll only have you’re own windows to clean.
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When are you thinking of returning to work? The government has said we are in lockdown for another 3 weeks at least. I think this is going to be recurring every 3 weeks for a long time.
Those that are working please don’t start telling us the guidelines etc, we are aware of them. I just want to get a feel of when you’re thinking of starting back.
That's a very good question.
I considered next week but that was earlier this week but as next week approaches I'm thinking again.
I can't see the country being ready to be re-opened in less than three weeks. Not a chance.
Whether they do it or not is a different matter. I think it'll be six weeks, at least, but that's just my opinion.
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
That’s a terrible situation Soupy. I hope you manage to get your business up and running again soon.
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.
There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.
It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.
The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.
There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.
It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.
The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.
Yeah sorry, I forgot that the furlough money is supposed to come through earlier.
Could you survive on the promise of that with nothing coming in?
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.
There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.
It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.
The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.
Yeah sorry, I forgot that the furlough money is supposed to come through earlier.
Could you survive on the promise of that with nothing coming in?
I'll be fine, maybe. I've got one, maybe two weeks of money left to pay payroll. Rishi has said that it'll be paid about 6 days after application is made, which will be Monday if the portal holds up. That is very tight, I have applied to the bank for a government backed loan for the short term but like 99% of other British businesses that have applied, no luck as yet.
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Good luck, mate. You deserve it.
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Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?
Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work. They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.
Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.
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Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?
Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work. They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.
Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.
You can't just say 'should' be going back to work without a lot more information.
He's got about 18 employees, 3 of the gaffers are out of action and then there's the customers to think about.
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I must have missed something but I just can't see why you are not working.
Apart from 2 who have defaulted on payment there has been no negative vibe about it, everyone has just accepted we are working without question and are genuinely pleased to see us and to see us still working getting to meet customers I have never seen before.
Cash can be dealt with by disinfecting it if you're worried, my missus has a bag of disinfected coins if we have to give change which is very rare as we rarely see any cash.
Leave a tub or box on the doorstep and ask them to put the money in that while working if they can't pay online just empty it out and don't touch it for a week.
I think this is the way it's going to be for a long time so best get used to it, work along with it, change your routine and crack on before you're skint.
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Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?
Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work. They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.
Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.
You can't just say 'should' be going back to work without a lot more information.
He's got about 18 employees, 3 of the gaffers are out of action and then there's the customers to think about.
Griff, I said in whatever way is suitable and safe. So, with that in mind, yes he should be going back to work.
There are ways to work which are safe and suitable. Soupy may have his own health concerns but Im sure his business can run with him conducting affairs from home and liasing with his staff.
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Those that are working please don’t start telling us the guidelines etc, we are aware of them. I just want to get a feel of when you’re thinking of starting back.
For you, Granny.
The flouter/malingerer ship has sailed.
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Soupy if you don't get the money right now, this week or next week, what good is there in folding the business?
Your staff will just have to wait and when you can all go back to work you go back to work. They will survive, albeit it'll be shit, but they'll survive and so will your business.
Truth is perhaps you should all be going back to work next week. In whatever way is suitable and as safe as can be; given the current situation.
You can't just say 'should' be going back to work without a lot more information.
He's got about 18 employees, 3 of the gaffers are out of action and then there's the customers to think about.
Griff, I said in whatever way is suitable and safe. So, with that in mind, yes he should be going back to work.
There are ways to work which are safe and suitable. Soupy may have his own health concerns but Im sure his business can run with him conducting affairs from home and liasing with his staff.
Fair enough, Matt.
I can't begin to grasp Soupy's situation because I've never really employed and he employs quite a few.
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I don't think Soupy's business will go down the pan, I just think he's an habitual moaner. And expects us to believe his bullshit
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I must have missed something but I just can't see why you are not working.
Apart from 2 who have defaulted on payment there has been no negative vibe about it, everyone has just accepted we are working without question and are genuinely pleased to see us and to see us still working getting to meet customers I have never seen before.
Cash can be dealt with by disinfecting it if you're worried, my missus has a bag of disinfected coins if we have to give change which is very rare as we rarely see any cash.
Leave a tub or box on the doorstep and ask them to put the money in that while working if they can't pay online just empty it out and don't touch it for a week.
I think this is the way it's going to be for a long time so best get used to it, work along with it, change your routine and crack on before you're skint.
I couldn't agree more.
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I don't think Soupy's business will go down the pan, I just think he's an habitual moaner. And expects us to believe his bullshit
A bit harsh (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587123342_grin[1].gif).
I don't think he'll lose all his customers but he could end up with staffing problems. You only have to look at the self employed on here and there'll more uncertainty for an employed window cleaner, I'd guess.
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I must have missed something but I just can't see why you are not working.
Apart from 2 who have defaulted on payment there has been no negative vibe about it, everyone has just accepted we are working without question and are genuinely pleased to see us and to see us still working getting to meet customers I have never seen before.
Cash can be dealt with by disinfecting it if you're worried, my missus has a bag of disinfected coins if we have to give change which is very rare as we rarely see any cash.
Leave a tub or box on the doorstep and ask them to put the money in that while working if they can't pay online just empty it out and don't touch it for a week.
I think this is the way it's going to be for a long time so best get used to it, work along with it, change your routine and crack on before you're skint.
I couldn't agree more.
Wrong thread though.
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I don't think Soupy's business will go down the pan, I just think he's an habitual moaner. And expects us to believe his bullshit
Half of that statement is correct.
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For me the decision happens next week and it'll depend on Rishi. I literally have a week left then it goes pop. Unfortunately I find myself in the precarious position of being reliant on a Tory chancellor.
Ideally we will be off until there is some kind of relaxation in the restrictions, some kind, any kind of movement in the right direction. I hope that's in three weeks time, I hope too that the promises made are honoured.
I have been pretty busy rewriting my health and safety procedures preparing for the return to work when it comes. I still need to get more Dettol, handwash and probably face masks (It looks like they might become mandatory or at least mandatory for the social distancing justice warriors). Implementing these measures will be challenging too, not being able to do it face to face.
Even with the new measures in place it's a difficult road ahead, I still have 8 weeks of a 12 week isolation to go, same story for at least one other staff member. My manager will remain furloughed until the schools are back and although not technically in the "shielded" category I'm not letting my old man out side and am taking great delight grounding the miserable old sod.
So short answer; don't know but at least three more weeks. Unless there's no money then probably never.
Could you manage 'til June without the grant, Soupy? On the promise that you'll get it, that is.
I'd think about going back but it must difficult with you, your Dad and your manager out of action. And are you prepared to send your staff out when the country might not be ready after this second lockdown? If you're ready and your staff are willing and prepared then I would think about it.
There's no grant for me in June. I'm not self employed.
It's the furlough and council grant that I'll get. There is an issue with the council grant, I've spoken to them and they can't find my rates address, we moved recently so not sure what will happen there.
The furlough is the important thing for me though. I'll see what it looks like on Monday.
Yeah sorry, I forgot that the furlough money is supposed to come through earlier.
Could you survive on the promise of that with nothing coming in?
I'll be fine, maybe. I've got one, maybe two weeks of money left to pay payroll. Rishi has said that it'll be paid about 6 days after application is made, which will be Monday if the portal holds up. That is very tight, I have applied to the bank for a government backed loan for the short term but like 99% of other British businesses that have applied, no luck as yet.
Redrow seem ok 300 million loan
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/financial/redrow-secures-300m-coronavirus-loan-09-04-2020/
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Funny that!
I think only 1.6% of businesses are getting a loan - the banks are just not playing ball
Soupy - hang on in there
Darran
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Soupy and Smudger have obviously got the interests of their staff in mind, so that's good, isn't it?
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I haven't been working since the lock down began but I'm going to return to work this coming Monday. As well as hopefully most of my normal customers I've also got several pencilled in whom I've missed from the last few weeks (8 week ones who'd have to wait a long time if I skipped them). With this in mind it may prove to be a very busy return week for me though I guess I may get more cancelling/not coming to the door than usual to balance it out.
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I will take next week off and if there is a drop off with infection rate..i will start back the following week or the first week
in May otherwise.
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Iv informed my customers il be back at the beginning of May , all of them who replied seemed very happy for me to do so.
1 more week of chillaxing :)
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I spoke to each employee over the phone yesterday, they are all desperate to get back to work. I'm going to send them all the new rams and have a "meeting" next week. Could be back at some level the following week.
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I spoke to each employee over the phone yesterday, they are all desperate to get back to work. I'm going to send them all the new rams and have a "meeting" next week. Could be back at some level the following week.
Sounds like you have a good team there Soupy!
Not a single one of my furloughed friends are itching to get back to work. It’s a paid holiday for every single one of them.
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I spoke to each employee over the phone yesterday, they are all desperate to get back to work. I'm going to send them all the new rams and have a "meeting" next week. Could be back at some level the following week.
Sounds like you have a good team there Soupy!
Not a single one of my furloughed friends are itching to get back to work. It’s a paid holiday for every single one of them.
Worst holiday ever.
There were a couple of them that weren't sure, their main worry being dealing with the customers. There were a couple of instances of hostile reactions on the Thursday and Friday before we closed.
Having explained the new procedures they seemed happy enough.
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I think everyone was pretty scared at the beginning of the lockdown, including myself, because you just don’t know how to react and so many what if thoughts. However imo , the public are used to it now and we all know how to be around others to stay safe ( or we should do). We just have to adapt , I could go on for a while yet before working but everyday I’m waking up at 6am and itching to do work. I’m looking forward to seeing everyone again (through the windows at least). Good luck soupy
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I spoke to each employee over the phone yesterday, they are all desperate to get back to work. I'm going to send them all the new rams and have a "meeting" next week. Could be back at some level the following week.
Sounds like you have a good team there Soupy!
Not a single one of my furloughed friends are itching to get back to work. It’s a paid holiday for every single one of them.
Worst holiday ever.
There were a couple of them that weren't sure, there main worry being dealing with the customers. There were a couple of instances of hostile reactions on the Thursday and Friday before we closed.
Having explained the new procedures they seemed happy enough.
Good luck with it mate, they’ll be a few bumps in the road but I’m sure it’ll work out.
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I will take next week off and if there is a drop off with infection rate..i will start back the following week or the first week
in May otherwise.
Would have made no difference if you’d had gone back a few weeks ago,you’ll still be able to catch this Virus at Xmas people are walking around with it showing no symptoms.
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I might go back next week. I've been getting it right in my head and then I can work more safely. My Missus is off work earlier in the week so it might be a good time to; but then the school work starts again.
I wish things were clearer on the lockdown, testing and strategies etc but we have to make the best of it.
I can't stay off 'til September, potentially, and I'd sooner go back earlier than I wanted to and do a few hours a day, a few days a week.
And don't forget, the first May Bank Holiday is on Friday the 8th.
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I might go back next week. I've been getting it right in my head and then I can work more safely. My Missus is off work earlier in the week so it might be a good time to; but then the school work starts again.
I wish things were clearer on the lockdown, testing and strategies etc but we have to make the best of it.
I can't stay off 'til September, potentially, and I'd sooner go back earlier than I wanted to and do a few hours a day, a few days a week.
And don't forget, the first May Bank Holiday is on Friday the 8th.
You turncoat you😜😂
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Now that nearly everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet regards working, what are we gonna argue about now? 🤐😁
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Well it looks like most of the ones preaching about staying at home and not working are all slowly returning to work already lads ;D
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I might go back next week. I've been getting it right in my head and then I can work more safely. My Missus is off work earlier in the week so it might be a good time to; but then the school work starts again.
I wish things were clearer on the lockdown, testing and strategies etc but we have to make the best of it.
I can't stay off 'til September, potentially, and I'd sooner go back earlier than I wanted to and do a few hours a day, a few days a week.
And don't forget, the first May Bank Holiday is on Friday the 8th.
You turncoat you😜😂
I'm not back yet!
I'd have stayed off until June, no problem. September's a different matter. If the schools don't go back my partial lockdown could be that long.
I've not been critical of anyone working, or leaving home, with good reasons. It's the ones doing it irresponsibly that I had a go at.
It's not all about window cleaning.
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Well it looks like most of the ones preaching about staying at home and not working are all slowly returning to work already lads ;D
If there was any preaching it was done to those didn't understand the guidelines and that still applies.
And there was as much, if not more, preaching from those returning to work earlier. Like yourself on this thread.
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I might go back next week. I've been getting it right in my head and then I can work more safely. My Missus is off work earlier in the week so it might be a good time to; but then the school work starts again.
I wish things were clearer on the lockdown, testing and strategies etc but we have to make the best of it.
I can't stay off 'til September, potentially, and I'd sooner go back earlier than I wanted to and do a few hours a day, a few days a week.
And don't forget, the first May Bank Holiday is on Friday the 8th.
You turncoat you😜😂
I'm not back yet!
I'd have stayed off until June, no problem. September's a different matter. If the schools don't go back my partial lockdown could be that long.
I've not been critical of anyone working, or leaving home, with good reasons. It's the ones doing it irresponsibly that I had a go at.
It's not all about window cleaning.
🎣🎣 I know, I was just pulling your leg mate 😉
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I might go back next week. I've been getting it right in my head and then I can work more safely. My Missus is off work earlier in the week so it might be a good time to; but then the school work starts again.
I wish things were clearer on the lockdown, testing and strategies etc but we have to make the best of it.
I can't stay off 'til September, potentially, and I'd sooner go back earlier than I wanted to and do a few hours a day, a few days a week.
And don't forget, the first May Bank Holiday is on Friday the 8th.
You turncoat you😜😂
I'm not back yet!
I'd have stayed off until June, no problem. September's a different matter. If the schools don't go back my partial lockdown could be that long.
I've not been critical of anyone working, or leaving home, with good reasons. It's the ones doing it irresponsibly that I had a go at.
It's not all about window cleaning.
🎣🎣 I know, I was just pulling your leg mate 😉
No, I'm not having it; I'm not going back now (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587203703_grin[1].gif).
Attitudes have changed, understandably. We've never been in this position before and all this uncertainty is a nightmare. If the government doesn't know how long it will go on for, what chance do we have?
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Watch that film contagion nearly everything thats happened in that film is happening now 🙂👍
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Let's not forget either, there are still people promoting/encouraging others to work and themselves actually believe that you can't pass Covid-19 on to anyone else if you have no symptoms!! Someone has a duty to protect both him and others!!😬😆
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Well it looks like most of the ones preaching about staying at home and not working are all slowly returning to work already lads ;D
If there was any preaching it was done to those didn't understand the guidelines and that still applies.
And there was as much, if not more, preaching from those returning to work earlier. Like yourself on this thread.
How can your preach about continuing to work ? I think it was plain to see that those who said they where doing it for the good of the country were either being sarcastic or joking, the only preaching done was by those who thought it was morally wrong to continue to work no matter the government advice.
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Now that nearly everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet regards working, what are we gonna argue about now? 🤐😁
Brexit anyone?
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Let's not forget either, there are still people promoting/encouraging others to work and themselves actually believe that you can't pass Covid-19 on to anyone else if you have no symptoms!! Someone has a duty to protect both him and others!!😬😆
This is the thing some have said now infection is easing I’ll go back to work,makes no difference you’ll be able to get it up until you are vaccinated.
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Now that nearly everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet regards working, what are we gonna argue about now? 🤐😁
Brexit anyone?
Or Scottish independence :-X
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I spoke to each employee over the phone yesterday, they are all desperate to get back to work. I'm going to send them all the new rams and have a "meeting" next week. Could be back at some level the following week.
hopefully you and them will be back in business soon then mate.......good luck!
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i actually had one of my best earning months in march...well over £4k due to lots of good work falling due at the same time....this month too is looking good as ive picked up a few new window cleaning jobs and add ons here and there and very few skipped/suspended jobs.....
as for the lockdown ive never even thought of not working TBH.........no need as we can crack on as usual.
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
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Well it looks like most of the ones preaching about staying at home and not working are all slowly returning to work already lads ;D
If there was any preaching it was done to those didn't understand the guidelines and that still applies.
And there was as much, if not more, preaching from those returning to work earlier. Like yourself on this thread.
How can your preach about continuing to work ? I think it was plain to see that those who said they where doing it for the good of the country were either being sarcastic or joking, the only preaching done was by those who thought it was morally wrong to continue to work no matter the government advice.
They weren't all being sarcastic and joking. They also said we were ignoring the government guidelines. And they were even telling us what the chance of us getting the virus was without knowing our circumstances or fully understanding the guidelines themselves.
I've only 'preached' about the guidelines and some didn't like them because they interfered with their lives. My 'preaching' wasn't all window cleaning related and I'll continue to do it.
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i actually had one of my best earning months in march...well over £4k due to lots of good work falling due at the same time....this month too is looking good as ive picked up a few new window cleaning jobs and add ons here and there and very few skipped/suspended jobs.....
as for the lockdown ive never even thought of not working TBH.........no need as we can crack on as usual.
looks like the grant will tip you into the 40% tax bracket then?
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i actually had one of my best earning months in march...well over £4k due to lots of good work falling due at the same time....this month too is looking good as ive picked up a few new window cleaning jobs and add ons here and there and very few skipped/suspended jobs.....
as for the lockdown ive never even thought of not working TBH.........no need as we can crack on as usual.
looks like the grant will tip you into the 40% tax bracket then?
Are charity donations tax deductible?
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i actually had one of my best earning months in march...well over £4k due to lots of good work falling due at the same time....this month too is looking good as ive picked up a few new window cleaning jobs and add ons here and there and very few skipped/suspended jobs.....
as for the lockdown ive never even thought of not working TBH.........no need as we can crack on as usual.
looks like the grant will tip you into the 40% tax bracket then?
Are charity donations tax deductible?
Yes, but it wouldn't affect the tax bracket you fall into:
https://www.gov.uk/donating-to-charity
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I don’t think dazmond is boasting
Good luck to him
I’m the same March was my best month over 5k and new customers coming in every day.
You just have to crack on.
All my customers are happy to see me.
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
I'm just saying you dont have to sit at home worrying about money and your business....just get out and work...nobody else is gonna give a toss if your business fails apart from you......
I wouldn't bank on the government bailing you out.......never trust a Tory!
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
I'm just saying you dont have to sit at home worrying about money and your business....just get out and work...nobody else is gonna give a toss if your business fails apart from you......
I wouldn't bank on the government bailing you out.......never trust a Tory!
You could say this without spouting numbers. It comes over a little crude.
Can you still play your kit in the flat?
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i actually had one of my best earning months in march...well over £4k due to lots of good work falling due at the same time....this month too is looking good as ive picked up a few new window cleaning jobs and add ons here and there and very few skipped/suspended jobs.....
as for the lockdown ive never even thought of not working TBH.........no need as we can crack on as usual.
looks like the grant will tip you into the 40% tax bracket then?
Are charity donations tax deductible?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587228277_grin[1].gif).
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
I'm just saying you dont have to sit at home worrying about money and your business....just get out and work...nobody else is gonna give a toss if your business fails apart from you......
I wouldn't bank on the government bailing you out.......never trust a Tory!
I would give a toss if Harley's business failed because of the pandemic. And I give a toss about loads of other businesses that will fail.
I'd give that much of a toss I wouldn't keep reminding them my business didn't fail either. If it doesn't fail, that is.
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
You could say this without spouting numbers. It comes over a little crude.
Can you still play your kit in the flat?
Poor neighbours, must be hell for them on lockdown!
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I’m kind of starting to like the Tories. I’d still never vote for them though, never have never will but I kind of like them at the minute.
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It's nearly every post boast . Boast😪😪😪😪
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I’m kind of starting to like the Tories. I’d still never vote for them though, never have never will but I kind of like them at the minute.
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15,500 dead.
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It's nearly every post boast . Boast😪😪😪😪
Harley - I wouldn't take it too heart, as a newcomer to this forum you maybe unaware of how far daz has travelled over the last 10 years in improving his biz, yes it can be irritating but take it in good spirit, I think it's just part of his addictive personality
Darran
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
You could say this without spouting numbers. It comes over a little crude.
Can you still play your kit in the flat?
Poor neighbours, must be hell for them on lockdown!
I'm staying with my missus at the moment....I dont play my acoustic drums in my flat anyway....I do play my electric kit though with headphones in but they are a lot quieter!👍😀
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I’m kind of starting to like the Tories. I’d still never vote for them though, never have never will but I kind of like them at the minute.
I think they're doing great. Their leader, who at the beginning of March told us he was going round hospitals shaking hands with coronavirus patients just nearly killed himself. And he's responsible for the health of the nation ? ;D There's no effective opposition, Labour want to know when it ends................God luv 'em. And we're bang on target to top any European Member state with the highest death figure, second only in the world to America and we had a fortnights head up on what was happening.
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I’m kind of starting to like the Tories. I’d still never vote for them though, never have never will but I kind of like them at the minute.
I think they're doing great. Their leader, who at the beginning of March told us he was going round hospitals shaking hands with coronavirus patients just nearly killed himself. And he's responsible for the health of the nation ? ;D There's no effective opposition, Labour want to know when it ends................God luv 'em. And we're bang on target to top any European Member state with the highest death figure, second only in the world to America and we had a fortnights head up on what was happening.
At least the Home Secretary is pouring oil on troubled waters.
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
You could say this without spouting numbers. It comes over a little crude.
Can you still play your kit in the flat?
Poor neighbours, must be hell for them on lockdown!
I'm staying with my missus at the moment....I dont play my acoustic drums in my flat anyway....I do play my electric kit though with headphones in but they are a lot quieter!👍😀
Then obviously you haven’t been at your own flat for nearly a month now?
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
You could say this without spouting numbers. It comes over a little crude.
Can you still play your kit in the flat?
Poor neighbours, must be hell for them on lockdown!
I'm staying with my missus at the moment....I dont play my acoustic drums in my flat anyway....I do play my electric kit though with headphones in but they are a lot quieter!👍😀
Then obviously you haven’t been at your own flat for nearly a month now?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587251664_undecided[1].gif)
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Don't youever shut up boasting how much money you've made it gets quite boring
You could say this without spouting numbers. It comes over a little crude.
Can you still play your kit in the flat?
Poor neighbours, must be hell for them on lockdown!
I'm staying with my missus at the moment....I dont play my acoustic drums in my flat anyway....I do play my electric kit though with headphones in but they are a lot quieter!👍😀
Then obviously you haven’t been at your own flat for nearly a month now?
Why wouldn’t he have been back to his own empty flat if he’s been staying at his girlfriends place for the last month or so?
I’m not sure there’s guidelines that prohibit that is there?
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
It depends on the duration.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
There is.
It's nearly four weeks now and we're still having to 'preach' (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587257085_rolleyes[1].gif).
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I’m kind of starting to like the Tories. I’d still never vote for them though, never have never will but I kind of like them at the minute.
I think they're doing great. Their leader, who at the beginning of March told us he was going round hospitals shaking hands with coronavirus patients just nearly killed himself. And he's responsible for the health of the nation ? ;D There's no effective opposition, Labour want to know when it ends................God luv 'em. And we're bang on target to top any European Member state with the highest death figure, second only in the world to America and we had a fortnights head up on what was happening.
We had 7 weeks notice and then three weeks from the start in Italy and our government twiddled it’s thumbs. Even me and a local window cleaning mate were planning what to do with our mums before the first Cobra meeting. Two local windies!
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1251563504118771712?s=21
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
If you move in with someone thats where you live isnt it?
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
If you move in with someone thats where you live isnt it?
No, he's 'staying with' her.
But I'm sure he did this before the lockdown (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587282055_undecided[1].gif).
These are not my guidelines or opinions and I'm only reminding people of them.
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Even Charlie Watts hasn't got a drumkit at home.
Dazmond 1 The Stones 0.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
If you move in with someone thats where you live isnt it?
No, he's 'staying with' her.
But I'm sure he did this before the lockdown (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587282055_undecided[1].gif).
These are not my guidelines or opinions and I'm only reminding people of them.
Semantics Griff.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
Up and down I expect.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
If you move in with someone thats where you live isnt it?
No, he's 'staying with' her.
But I'm sure he did this before the lockdown (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587282055_undecided[1].gif).
These are not my guidelines or opinions and I'm only reminding people of them.
Semantics Griff.
Not at all.
I know that he's not followed the guidelines and I'm going easy on him.........easy like Sunday morning.
If he moved in with her before the lockdown, ok; but he's not supposed to be visiting his old place.
These are not my guidelines, btw.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
Up and down I expect.
He's a sex cymbal.
*Ba dum tish*
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
If you move in with someone thats where you live isnt it?
No, he's 'staying with' her.
But I'm sure he did this before the lockdown (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587282055_undecided[1].gif).
These are not my guidelines or opinions and I'm only reminding people of them.
Semantics Griff.
Not at all.
I know that he's not followed the guidelines and I'm going easy on him.........easy like Sunday morning.
If he moved in with her before the lockdown, ok; but he's not supposed to be visiting his old place.
These are not my guidelines, btw.
Fair enough.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Lack of clarity? Incessant lying?
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
Nah it's nothing like Labour.
Im sure if they were in government the death toll figures would be at least three thousand hundred and ninety zero by now! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587294211_grin.gif)
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"There is no way you're at war if your PM isn't there".
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No, you can do that. Nothing wrong in moving in with someone for the duration.
Surely there is going back and forth tho.
If you move in with someone thats where you live isnt it?
No, he's 'staying with' her.
But I'm sure he did this before the lockdown (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587282055_undecided[1].gif).
These are not my guidelines or opinions and I'm only reminding people of them.
Semantics Griff.
Not at all.
I know that he's not followed the guidelines and I'm going easy on him.........easy like Sunday morning.
If he moved in with her before the lockdown, ok; but he's not supposed to be visiting his old place.
These are not my guidelines, btw.
Agreed. IF anybody was doing that then they would confirm themselves as thick and selfish.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
Who said I was self employed?
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
You are. 8weekly has a unit so can apply for a £10k grant off the government. It's linked to rates / rate relief.
If he didn't want it, he doesn't need to apply for it btw.
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
Of course it is.
Who do you think pays for the NHS? Yes, an almost 100 years old war veteran by walking round his garden.
Oh sorry, wrong thread. Health care is a huge part of the economy.
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I’m considering going back in May. I don’t think I’d really earn any more than staying on universal credit but it would be more for my mental heath to get out the flat, also I worry that my customers might not like the fact that I’m sitting it out for 2 months, even though my rounds not good I don’t want to lose any of my good customers.
A question I have is any of you that have texted/contacted customers to let them know you ain’t coming out how did you then let them know you will now be coming to do the windows? As I imagine that might be a bit awkward after you’ve told them you wasn’t coming out due to the virus.
For me I’m 50/50 on what to do come May, I think it’s mainly worrying about my customers being disappointed to be honest, I think a lot of people know window cleaners can work so might be a bit funny if I said I’m not coming, which is pushing me to go back.
Hate dilemma’s 😂
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
Who said I was self employed?
If you’re paying VAT You’re either self employed or a Ltd company, which is self employed in just other words . ::)roll
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
You are. 8weekly has a unit so can apply for a £10k grant off the government. It's linked to rates / rate relief.
If he didn't want it, he doesn't need to apply for it btw.
Thanks. A better answer than the prickly bod who I asked the question of.
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I wouldn't bank on the grant did anyone see those two brothers that run a garage apiece in different parts of the country one got the grant and the other one refused and both business's do the exact same thing
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I wouldn't bank on the grant did anyone see those two brothers that run a garage apiece in different parts of the country one got the grant and the other one refused and both business's do the exact same thing
Yes, that was a strange one.
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I wouldn't bank on the grant did anyone see those two brothers that run a garage apiece in different parts of the country one got the grant and the other one refused and both business's do the exact same thing
How have they got it/not got it so soon?
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Friend of mine has just got the £10k grant (not a window cleaner)
The local Authority paid it into his estranged Wife’s personal account, right in the middle of a divorce battle. 😳
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Oh, the £10,000 one?
Sorry, my mistake.
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Friend of mine has just got the £10k grant (not a window cleaner)
The local Authority paid it into his estranged Wife’s personal account, right in the middle of a divorce battle. 😳
Jeez :o what a nightmare!
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
Who said I was self employed?
If you’re paying VAT You’re either self employed or a Ltd company, which is self employed in just other words . ::)roll
No, they are different. In actual fact and in how grants are being paid out. Self employed get 80% of profits if they don’t work, directors get furlough on their PAYE element and nothing on dividends if they choose not to work.
The £10k is business rate relief for those that get the small business rates relief and nothing to do with self employed.
Hope that helps.
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You may find, in regard to the brothers mentioned that it's not about what the buisness is, it's what you rent - if your renting an old cow shed off a farmer for a bit of cash then you won't get the grant
HTH
Darran
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Its the one with the smaller business that got the grant and the bigger business rejected
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
Who said I was self employed?
If you’re paying VAT You’re either self employed or a Ltd company, which is self employed in just other words . ::)roll
No, they are different. In actual fact and in how grants are being paid out. Self employed get 80% of profits if they don’t work, directors get furlough on their PAYE element and nothing on dividends if they choose not to work.
The £10k is business rate relief for those that get the small business rates relief and nothing to do with self employed.
Hope that helps.
Not really. Knew all that anyway. Maybe easier if you had said that was your position all along.
Thanks anyway.
And being furloughed as a CD is worth about £483 a month. Pointless. ;D
Hope that helps.
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Yep I've been nipping home most days to purify my water after work and I nipped home today to do some washing as my missus washing machine has packed up.....
What are u gonna do griff?its not against the rules mate.....nobody but me at my flat so im not mixing with anybody else by nipping home....
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I have to say I see nowt wrong with that, daz is not visiting family members at differing addresses
I go to the unit every third day to run the vans and check everything is working as it should - I'm the only one there I see no difference between that and what daz is doing
Darran
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Yep I've been nipping home most days to purify my water after work and I nipped home today to do some washing as my missus washing machine has packed up.....
What are u gonna do griff?its not against the rules mate.....nobody but me at my flat so im not mixing with anybody else by nipping home....
I'm not going to do anything but it's against government guidelines; not my guidelines; the governments.
I'm sorry if you don't like them but you're quick to quote them.
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I have to say I see nowt wrong with that, daz is not visiting family members at differing addresses
I go to the unit every third day to run the vans and check everything is working as it should - I'm the only one there I see no difference between that and what daz is doing
Darran
That's why we have government guidelines, They're not laws but are they essential journeys?
You are not supposed to be visiting family or friends. So if Daz is in his own flat, he shouldn't then be going to his birds or vice versa.
There might be a nipping 'home' to do some washing, purify some water, checking on my unit or I'm not seeing anyone or doing anything wrong loophole in the future.
But not yet.
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I have to say I see nowt wrong with that, daz is not visiting family members at differing addresses
I go to the unit every third day to run the vans and check everything is working as it should - I'm the only one there I see no difference between that and what daz is doing
Darran
That's why we have government guidelines, They're not laws but are they essential journeys?
You are not supposed to be visiting family or friends. So if Daz is in his own flat, he shouldn't then be going to his birds or vice versa.
There might be a nipping 'home' to do some washing, purify some water, checking on my unit or I'm not seeing anyone or doing anything wrong loophole in the future.
But not yet.
Some people are just either stupid or selfish. Or both.
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He's not - he is with his partner but pops back to an empty flat
Darran
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Come on guys!
He is living with his partner, has been while this has been going on, he pops home (which has no one there) to fill up his vehicle etc. That’s the working but cannot work from home category. You can travel to an empty business premises, and even some that aren’t.
For guys who also love to quote the guidelines you really should read them some more.
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I think he cleans his inside windows when he returns. Charges an extortionate rate too.
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I'm just using common sense......theres no cut and dried rules.....
I'm off to work now have a good day chaps..... :)
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I have to say I see nowt wrong with that, daz is not visiting family members at differing addresses
I go to the unit every third day to run the vans and check everything is working as it should - I'm the only one there I see no difference between that and what daz is doing
Darran
That's why we have government guidelines, They're not laws but are they essential journeys?
You are not supposed to be visiting family or friends. So if Daz is in his own flat, he shouldn't then be going to his birds or vice versa.
There might be a nipping 'home' to do some washing, purify some water, checking on my unit or I'm not seeing anyone or doing anything wrong loophole in the future.
But not yet.
It's an essential journey nipping back to my flat to purify my water for work.....and to pick up some clean clothes....👍
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Come on guys!
He is living with his partner, has been while this has been going on, he pops home (which has no one there) to fill up his vehicle etc. That’s the working but cannot work from home category. You can travel to an empty business premises, and even some that aren’t.
For guys who also love to quote the guidelines you really should read them some more.
Can you post a link about those bits in the guidelines?
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Come on guys!
He is living with his partner, has been while this has been going on, he pops home (which has no one there) to fill up his vehicle etc. That’s the working but cannot work from home category. You can travel to an empty business premises, and even some that aren’t.
For guys who also love to quote the guidelines you really should read them some more.
Can you post a link about those bits in the guidelines?
“Go to Work if you cannot work at home”
That covers it.
It would be different if Daz was living at home and popping round to the other house for a night and then going back home. That’s not the case though.
He’s basically staying at his second home, but working and carrying on social distancing.
Im not sure where the confusion is?
Which guideline is Daz breaking? Please post the link to that.
Innocent until proven guilty is the phrase I think. :)
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Come on guys!
He is living with his partner, has been while this has been going on, he pops home (which has no one there) to fill up his vehicle etc. That’s the working but cannot work from home category. You can travel to an empty business premises, and even some that aren’t.
For guys who also love to quote the guidelines you really should read them some more.
Can you post a link about those bits in the guidelines?
“Go to Work if you cannot work at home”
That covers it.
It would be different if Daz was living at home and popping round to the other house for a night and then going back home. That’s not the case though.
He’s basically staying at his second home, but working and carrying on social distancing.
Im not sure where the confusion is?
Which guideline is Daz breaking? Please post the link to that.
Innocent until proven guilty is the phrase I think. :)
Like Catherine Calderwood? Oh, she's not working anymore.
And he's nipping 'home' most days?
I don't need to post links or prove anything; I'm just asking questions about the interpretations of the guidelines.
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But Griff you asked him to post a link, then respond with a 'put-down', implying they're unnecessary.
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
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But Griff you asked him to post a link, then respond with a 'put-down', implying they're unnecessary.
They're unnecessary to 'prove' something; especially when we don't know the full story.
I can post a link about visiting family and friends (whether Daz is doing it or not).
I can't find one about visiting business premises (which is flat is not) or ones about filling up most days or doing some washing. That's why I asked. But I can't disprove them either.
Added: ta, Mike
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
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Does this mean that I shouldn’t be doing a 14 mile round trip every day to fill up at a storage water outlet 8)
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
Seriously how?
Daz essentially has two homes.
He has chosen to lock down at the home where his girlfriend is, he then travels to an empty “work premises” for business practice as this “cannot be done from home”.
I honestly think some of you guys just like to try and have a go and accuse people of breaking rules for the fun of it.
It’s also interesting that all the aggression seems to be from the guys who aren’t working. I’d suggest going out to work as per the government guidelines, it’ll do your mental health the world of good!
;D
2 more houses to do and I’m done for the day. Beautiful sunshine here and great customers. 8)
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
Seriously how?
Daz essentially has two homes.
He has chosen to lock down at the home where his girlfriend is, he then travels to an empty “work premises” for business practice as this “cannot be done from home”.
I honestly think some of you guys just like to try and have a go and accuse people of breaking rules for the fun of it.
It’s also interesting that all the aggression seems to be from the guys who aren’t working. I’d suggest going out to work as per the government guidelines, it’ll do your mental health the world of good!
;D
2 more houses to do and I’m done for the day. Beautiful sunshine here and great customers. 8)
Anonymous, empty vessel. :)
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
i actually thought you were one of the common sense/level headed guys on here but im obviously mistaken.........im not doing anything wrong....
im staying at my missus house for the time being..........and i nip to my empty flat to purify my water at the end of my working day(and to wash some clothes because my missus washing machine is broke at the moment)....
the rest of the time im staying in(at missus house) like most people except for walking the dog and occasionally doing a food shop......thats it....
by the way my missus house is 7 miles away(15 min drive)
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
Seriously how?
Daz essentially has two homes.
He has chosen to lock down at the home where his girlfriend is, he then travels to an empty “work premises” for business practice as this “cannot be done from home”.
I honestly think some of you guys just like to try and have a go and accuse people of breaking rules for the fun of it.
It’s also interesting that all the aggression seems to be from the guys who aren’t working. I’d suggest going out to work as per the government guidelines, it’ll do your mental health the world of good!
;D
2 more houses to do and I’m done for the day. Beautiful sunshine here and great customers. 8)
Anonymous, empty vessel. :)
You been on the cakes again and got a sugar rush, or you off your cake now ? ;D
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
Seriously how?
Daz essentially has two homes.
He has chosen to lock down at the home where his girlfriend is, he then travels to an empty “work premises” for business practice as this “cannot be done from home”.
I honestly think some of you guys just like to try and have a go and accuse people of breaking rules for the fun of it.
It’s also interesting that all the aggression seems to be from the guys who aren’t working. I’d suggest going out to work as per the government guidelines, it’ll do your mental health the world of good!
;D
2 more houses to do and I’m done for the day. Beautiful sunshine here and great customers. 8)
Anonymous, empty vessel. :)
You been on the cakes again and got a sugar rush, or you off your cake now ? ;D
I abstain from sugar ta muchly. You'll have to do better than that ;)
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
i actually thought you were one of the common sense/level headed guys on here but im obviously mistaken.........im not doing anything wrong....
im staying at my missus house for the time being..........and i nip to my empty flat to purify my water at the end of my working day(and to wash some clothes because my missus washing machine is broke at the moment)....
the rest of the time im staying in(at missus house) like most people except for walking the dog and occasionally doing a food shop......thats it....
by the way my missus house is 7 miles away(15 min drive)
Daz. I think it’s the “nipping” backwards and forwards that is the problem? You don’t think doing that is contrary to advice/guidelines from the Govt?
You do come across as a genuinely nice bloke tbh, I just think the constant updates of what you are doing/working/living/“nipping out” isn’t in line with any sensible procedures. But you can’t see that.
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People are going to have to start minding their own beeswax soon. Social distancing warriors are rife on the old facebonk.
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One of my customers asked if I had to apply for a special licence to allow me to work!
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One of my customers asked if I had to apply for a special licence to allow me to work!
;D ;D ;D
some people think only postman,food shop workers and NHS are still working!how wrong they are......someones got to keep the economy going......
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People are going to have to start minding their own beeswax soon. Social distancing warriors are rife on the old facebonk.
5 weeks ago there were peeps on here claiming if we went back to work we’d be vilified on social media. Utter balls. People are pleased to see us.
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People are going to have to start minding their own beeswax soon. Social distancing warriors are rife on the old facebonk.
I hope you're at Loch Down ?
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People are going to have to start minding their own beeswax soon. Social distancing warriors are rife on the old facebonk.
I hope you're at Loch Down ?
I'm grounded until mid July.
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People are going to have to start minding their own beeswax soon. Social distancing warriors are rife on the old facebonk.
5 weeks ago there were peeps on here claiming if we went back to work we’d be vilified on social media. Utter balls. People are pleased to see us.
Nobody has ever been pleased to see me.
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People are going to have to start minding their own beeswax soon. Social distancing warriors are rife on the old facebonk.
5 weeks ago there were peeps on here claiming if we went back to work we’d be vilified on social media. Utter balls. People are pleased to see us.
Nobody has ever been pleased to see me.
Nobodies that pleased to see window cleaners. Only a deluded fool would think they were.
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Leave home to stay at your girlfriends then go back home to fill up might not qualify ?
In a nutshell.
Utterly reckless and selfish.
Seriously how?
Daz essentially has two homes.
He has chosen to lock down at the home where his girlfriend is, he then travels to an empty “work premises” for business practice as this “cannot be done from home”.
I honestly think some of you guys just like to try and have a go and accuse people of breaking rules for the fun of it.
It’s also interesting that all the aggression seems to be from the guys who aren’t working. I’d suggest going out to work as per the government guidelines, it’ll do your mental health the world of good!
;D
2 more houses to do and I’m done for the day. Beautiful sunshine here and great customers. 8)
It's not an empty business premise and why can't he fill up at his essentially second home?
I know the answer and there won't be something in the guidelines about it. Nor a broken washing machine.
If you think the journeys are essential and that anyone is being aggressive, that's up to you. But it's also up to others whether they have an opinion on others and their opinions.
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
Thats quite clever, he's doing this by debating with Johnny ?
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
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Another virus thread that’s spiralled into the same old mess. Forum is fast becoming unusable much like the FB groups have been for years. 👎
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
It's not personal, Daz.
I'm just discussing the government guidelines. It doesn't matter who, or who doesn't, break them but it's worthy of discussion.
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It would be if you had a valid point.....
Darran
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
It's not personal, Daz.
I'm just discussing the government guidelines. It doesn't matter who, or who doesn't, break them but it's worthy of discussion.
You know you could always take a break from the forum and get a life.
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
I'm talking about the guidelines. Daz just happened to be the one not following them, imo.
Look at the title of the thread. Why are you sticking your noses in?
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It would be if you had a valid point.....
Darran
You deeming it invalid doesn't mean that's invalid.
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
It's not personal, Daz.
I'm just discussing the government guidelines. It doesn't matter who, or who doesn't, break them but it's worthy of discussion.
You know you could always take a break from the forum and get a life.
That thought has crossed my mind but I've got a lot of time on my hands, at the minute.
Is it ok if I hang round for a bit?
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
It's not personal, Daz.
I'm just discussing the government guidelines. It doesn't matter who, or who doesn't, break them but it's worthy of discussion.
its just not worthy of discussion at all griff(certainly not in regards to me staying at my girlfriends house).......i wish you d go back to your quick fire quips/jokes.....thats where your real talent lies mate..... ;D
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It would be if you had a valid point.....
Darran
You deeming it invalid doesn't mean that's invalid.
You deeming it valid, doesn’t mean it’s valid either though mate.
Look, Daz is an idiot. But he’s an idiot for feeling like he has to post about every single aspect of his life on a public forum and leaving himself up for judgement rather than actually breaking any guidelines Griff.
There is no direct guideline for whether a window cleaner can nip to get some water from his flat, but it’s not different than someone filling up at a “spotless water” site.
In fact it’s probably safer.
For the more ambiguous guidelines there surely has to be an element of common sense put in place mate?
For once, I don’t actually think Daz is doing much wrong, he’s living with his mrs and nipping home for water...
Not interacting with anyone else (I assume), just filling his van. Would it be better if he cleaned his own windows at the same time and said it was a job?
I get it’s an emotional time for a lot of people and life is stressful but just having a pop at anyone that isn’t on your wavelength is a Toshy sort of thing to do.
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It would be if you had a valid point.....
Darran
You deeming it invalid doesn't mean that's invalid.
You deeming it valid, doesn’t mean it’s valid either though mate.
Look, Daz is an idiot. But he’s an idiot for feeling like he has to post about every single aspect of his life on a public forum and leaving himself up for judgement rather than actually breaking any guidelines Griff.
There is no direct guideline for whether a window cleaner can nip to get some water from his flat, but it’s not different than someone filling up at a “spotless water” site.
In fact it’s probably safer.
For the more ambiguous guidelines there surely has to be an element of common sense put in place mate?
For once, I don’t actually think Daz is doing much wrong, he’s living with his mrs and nipping home for water...
Not interacting with anyone else (I assume), just filling his van. Would it be better if he cleaned his own windows at the same time and said it was a job?
I get it’s an emotional time for a lot of people and life is stressful but just having a pop at anyone that isn’t on your wavelength is a Toshy sort of thing to do.
i agree with all that mate...apart from the "idiot" bit.. ;D............its the last thing most people would call me nowadays(fully justifiable sometimes in my old drinking days though!) ;D
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It would be if you had a valid point.....
Darran
You deeming it invalid doesn't mean that's invalid.
You deeming it valid, doesn’t mean it’s valid either though mate.
Look, Daz is an idiot. But he’s an idiot for feeling like he has to post about every single aspect of his life on a public forum and leaving himself up for judgement rather than actually breaking any guidelines Griff.
There is no direct guideline for whether a window cleaner can nip to get some water from his flat, but it’s not different than someone filling up at a “spotless water” site.
In fact it’s probably safer.
For the more ambiguous guidelines there surely has to be an element of common sense put in place mate?
For once, I don’t actually think Daz is doing much wrong, he’s living with his mrs and nipping home for water...
Not interacting with anyone else (I assume), just filling his van. Would it be better if he cleaned his own windows at the same time and said it was a job?
I get it’s an emotional time for a lot of people and life is stressful but just having a pop at anyone that isn’t on your wavelength is a Toshy sort of thing to do.
I'm not saying my opinion is valid either; hence the discussion.
Now I agree that there is no law specific to what Daz is doing but that's where the 'reasonable' bit comes into play. Most, on here, think that it's reasonable to do what he's doing and I pointed that that might not be the case.
Because some feel that Daz is doing nothing wrong doesn't mean that he's doing nothing wrong. That's the thing with pandemics; they're a pain in the arse when it comes to everyday things.
I've had my say and I'll leave it at that but don't forget that it wasn't me that brought up the subject of where he was living or not living.
No one likes these guidelines but don't shoot Melinda Messenger.
Shalom.
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
It's not personal, Daz.
I'm just discussing the government guidelines. It doesn't matter who, or who doesn't, break them but it's worthy of discussion.
its just not worthy of discussion at all griff(certainly not in regards to me staying at my girlfriends house).......i wish you d go back to your quick fire quips/jokes.....thats where your real talent lies mate..... ;D
I'm a man of many talents, Daz.
It's the guidelines that are the problem not me. If I'm wrong or misreading them, people can ignore me or put me right.
As I've said, they are not my guidelines and anyone can feel free to vent their frustrations at those guidelines on me. Or ignore me.
As Nicola said, things shouldn't seem normal right now.
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I would like to think in the next week or two in a limited way
If the infection rate drops enough
I did a couple of days after the lockdown and some customers were coming much too close despite being told not to. Including a doctor!
so I stopped as Mrs G is high risk.
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Oh dear, with Tosh out of the picture it looks as if Dazmond is now number one on Griffs obsession stalking radar.
its ok sean i can take it........ ;D
i hope your ticking along ok mate.......
It's not personal, Daz.
I'm just discussing the government guidelines. It doesn't matter who, or who doesn't, break them but it's worthy of discussion.
its just not worthy of discussion at all griff(certainly not in regards to me staying at my girlfriends house).......i wish you d go back to your quick fire quips/jokes.....thats where your real talent lies mate..... ;D
I'm a man of many talents, Daz.
It's the guidelines that are the problem not me. If I'm wrong or misreading them, people can ignore me or put me right.
As I've said, they are not my guidelines and anyone can feel free to vent their frustrations at those guidelines on me. Or ignore me.
As Nicola said, things shouldn't seem normal right now.
it doesnt feel normal griff.....
no gym sessions
no band practice or gigs
no meals/nights out with girlfriend/family/bandmates
no holidays abroad(was due to fly to greece on 3rd may)
no visiting family
the only normal thing is i can go to work,thank god!
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Daz, I remember you saying that nothing would stop you travelling to Zante.
Not many people forecast where we'd be at now though. It's not good.
It'll be good to get back to something like normal.
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There’s some petty idiots on here. Half of you aren’t window cleaners, why don’t you trot on and let those who wish to talk constructively about window cleaning and the current climate do so. If you haven’t got anything constructive to say bugger off. Particularly the trolls and non shiners.
14 posts in and name calling already.
Oh dear.
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And nothing constructive.
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Daz, I remember you saying that nothing would stop you travelling to Zante.
Not many people forecast where we'd be at now though. It's not good.
It'll be good to get back to something like normal.
well the positive news is the death rate today is the lowest its been for weeks now so hopefully its a downward trend.......my auntie who lives in spain can still only go out ONCE A WEEK for food shopping,thats it........although i think they are relaxing the severe lockdown from monday next week
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And nothing constructive.
My last post was constructive. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it’s not constructive.
As for the troll PG, he’s been on here years and never posts anything constructive. All he ever posts is character assassination and condescending insults, so any insults about him may just be too close to home for his fragile ego to deal with.
Just because I’ve posted 14 posts in my year on here didn’t mean my words are any less valid.
I didn't find it constructive.
We both know that you are more constructive than that and we've both known it for more than a year.
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And nothing constructive.
My last post was constructive. Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it’s not constructive.
As for the troll PG, he’s been on here years and never posts anything constructive. All he ever posts is character assassination and condescending insults, so any insults about him may just be too close to home for his fragile ego to deal with.
Just because I’ve posted 14 posts in my year on here didn’t mean my words are any less valid.
Oh get over yourself. A differing opinion and you call somebody a troll.
No wonder you only posted 14 times.
And how would you know I’ve posted trolllike stuff for “years” if you’ve only been on 1 year. Unless you've been booted off a few times for, you know,being a troll. ::)roll
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News experts saying peak of the virus has allready passed it passed in march
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News experts saying peak of the virus has allready passed it passed in march
But the problem is the second wave. When will that be.
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News experts saying peak of the virus has allready passed it passed in march
March?
We only locked down on the 24th (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1587422119_huh[1].gif).
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lol
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It's true according to the Mail.
Can you imagine if it were true? We reach the peak and then go through this costly lockdown. The government would be slaughtered!
It is the Mail though.
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Yes experts saying lock down was to late
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I’m not an expert, but from what I can tell, the government’s economic response has been astonishingly good. It’s like the Labour Party were in government.
PPE? Care homes?
Economic.
Health care is part of the economy.
No it isn’t. But for clarity I was referring to the financial package put in place. Furloughing, grants, business rates freeze, loans (if they get it working properly), self employed help and so on. Directors of small companies were ignored though. But overall I thought the package was breathtaking.
Unfortunately they’ve made an absolute mess of everything else.
So far they've dished out nothing.
True, but I expect you deferred your VAT? It’s frustratingly slow for everything else but we’re not in need of anything. We’re getting the £10k grant but we don’t need it. I’d hand it back if it were possible, but I figure along with everyone else I’ll be paying for this years to come.
Sorry. 10K Grant? Thought for self employed its 2.5 k a month for 3 months? Or am I missing something.
Who said I was self employed?
If you’re paying VAT You’re either self employed or a Ltd company, which is self employed in just other words . ::)roll
No, they are different. In actual fact and in how grants are being paid out. Self employed get 80% of profits if they don’t work, directors get furlough on their PAYE element and nothing on dividends if they choose not to work.
The £10k is business rate relief for those that get the small business rates relief and nothing to do with self employed.
Hope that helps.
Not really. Knew all that anyway. Maybe easier if you had said that was your position all along.
Thanks anyway.
And being furloughed as a CD is worth about £483 a month. Pointless. ;D
Hope that helps.
No need to be furloughed as we’ve worked straight through in accordance with the government guidelines.