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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: nathankaye on January 24, 2017, 12:26:26 pm
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2 yrs ago i was so happy to switch from trad to wfp, to get away from wet cold hands in winter. To get away from hands freezing on ladders etc etc to wear gloves and just simply use a pole, what a relief.
Yet these last couple of days with frosty starts, had enough of the cold and not excited of prospect of cutting into my tank or carrying gas. So since my 500ltr wydale tank is effectively split into 2 250ltrs, im sticking a 300watt tropical tank heaters in either side over night. Should reach over 30 degrees and since my tank is insulated it will hold temp for day......happy days
Plus my local supplier did deal. £28 each but as i needed 2, sold both for £40. Even happier at that
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Nice, so how does it work you just drop these into tank at night connected to mains, then it heats water up ready for the morning? does it cost much to run something like this you think?
Might do this myself, seems like a good idea and fairly easy, my tank isn't insulated though, how long you think water would stay atleast warm for during the day? If i could get 4 hours i would be happy :D
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Bargain.
http://tinyurl.com/heou3t2
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Would running 2 of those overnight make much difference water temp wise though on a 500 ltr tank?
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Cheers soupy, that ended ny smile today :'(
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Would running 2 of those overnight make much difference water temp wise though on a 500 ltr tank?
Probably. I doubt it would boil it but a few degrees is all you need.
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Cheers soupy, that ended ny smile today :'(
Sorry Nathan.
Confucius say: always Google something before buy in shop.
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Would running 2 of those overnight make much difference water temp wise though on a 500 ltr tank?
Its a wydale tank, the water is segmented into two halves so effectively im heating 2 250 litres. These heaters will easily get the water to 30degrees which is better than cold for my liking as im doining maintenance cleans every 4wks. Plus the tank is insulated so the temp should hold.
Cant see them being expensive to run during the night at slightly cheaper electric costs. Ones who keep fish have these things running 24/7 all be it they are thermostated so not constantly running, but if i have them on from 10pm till 7/8am next morning it should easily do the trick.
Only down side is soupys post
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Cheers soupy, that ended ny smile today :'(
Sorry Nathan.
Confucius say: always Google something before buy in shop.
Will do next time, esp with them being that cheap. I thought they may be a fraction cheaper on net, but thought for convienience of popping into local supplier as i passed would warrant any small saving from internet..........obviously i was wrong
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Funny you mention gas water heaters as I've found another great advantage using an lpg water heater when doing exterior cleans. That is if I don't need to use hot pure from the van tanks but still want to use hot water. All I do is just hook it up to an outside tap instead so have an endless supply of hot water on demand.
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Cheers soupy, that ended ny smile today :'(
Sorry Nathan.
Confucius say: always Google something before buy in shop.
Will do next time, esp with them being that cheap. I thought they may be a fraction cheaper on net, but thought for convienience of popping into local supplier as i passed would warrant any small saving from internet..........obviously i was wrong
I don't mind paying over the odds locally if I need to get stuff in a hurry. Mind I bet if you go back and show them that link they still will not match that fleebay price.
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https://elementsofheating.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/how-to...
Not sure if this link will work or not but going by the figures it takes one hour for a
3.5kw heater to heat 100lts of water by 30degrees, you have roughly a
sixth of that so your talking around 5 or 6 hours per 100lts.
Doesn't look as if your heaters are up to the job.
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I guess i will find out tomorrow morning, but running from 10pm till 7 or 8 am gives 9 or 10 hrs to heat. Each heater is effectively heating 250ltrs each so will see n postbhow i get on tomorrow. But either way it isnt going to cold n freezing in hose.
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https://elementsofheating.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/how-to...
Not sure if this link will work or not but going by the figures it takes one hour for a
3.5kw heater to heat 100lts of water by 30degrees, you have roughly a
sixth of that so your talking around 5 or 6 hours per 100lts.
Doesn't look as if your heaters are up to the job.
From your link SeanK.
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1 degree per hour. Not too bad...
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10 1/2 hours:
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11 degrees...
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"Re: finally on hot water" I don't recall 11c being hot water ??? more like tepid ;D
For your 40 squid you would have been better of putting it towards cutting a hole in yer tank and fitting an immersion element for frost protection. Or put it towards a chepo hot water on demand lpg heater instead.
I'm also not convinced that the radiant heat from trying to warm the tank with those fish tank heaters would be enough to stop the other kit in the van from getting frozen.
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Well, heres to finding out. Start temp in tank is 5.8, so i will let you know in over ten hrs what it gets to.
Its worth a shot anyways and i know where to buy them at 8 quid if i need to throw another one ;D
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Let us know how you get on ;)
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It takes my 3000w element 6 hours to heat my 500ltr wydale. My prediction is you will get luke warm at best.
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It takes my 3000w element 6 hours to heat my 500ltr wydale. My prediction is you will get luke warm at best.
I suppose so many elements come into play. For instance the volume of water, is it vertical or an horizontal tank. How long is the elementand what water flow to circulate the heat. For instance a 12 0r 14 inch 3000w element compared to a 20 inch 3000w element etc. Also is the tank insulated or not etc etc.
I have the option of leaving turning the heater on at 9 pm or before if needs be to give extra time if needs be and simply run an extension cable to van rather then being overly concerned with the wattage and artic wires or changing the electrics for a 3k element. All the stuff i want to avoid in order to keep it simple.
But i wil post the results all the same.
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So my first temp reading was at half 2 this afternoon after topping my tank up from its 1000ltr ibc tank un insulated in the garden and that was 5.8 on my tds temp stick. In 1, 45hrs it is reading 10.5 so an increase of 5degrees in just under 2hrs. Now will that just increase at that basis or will it quicken up as now its heating 10.5 and not 5.8, i have no idea on the science part. But i probably will take a reading a couple of hrs later out of curiosity
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In 1, 45hrs it is reading 10.5 so an increase of 5degrees in just under 2hrs.
Even if it works just as frost protection I reckon you're on a winner!
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Just don't go dropping yer handheld tds meter in the tank now will you ;D
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Just don't go dropping yer handheld tds meter in the tank now will you ;D
Learnt that lesson first week with 1000ibc tank....ooops now on 2nd tds stick ;D
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Just don't go dropping yer handheld tds meter in the tank now will you ;D
Learnt that lesson first week with 1000ibc tank....ooops now on 2nd tds stick ;D
Me too that's why I mentioned it...Oops! ;D
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You need to stir your water Nathan or take the reading from the bottom/pumped.
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Why?
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Will be colder at bottom of tank.
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Hot water rising will create thermals in the tank, make sure you have the thermostat turned up on the heater it’ll just stay on with cold water sinking.
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I've been using 1 for years, keeps me working.
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Cheers for all added tips, yep i have the thermostat on its highest settings.
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Hi Nathan
I used to use the 1kw version with a foil blanket over the 500L tank, it worked quite well.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HB2J2H2/ref=pe_385721_51767431_TE_dp_1
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I think you're being a bit optimistic Nathan.
I put a 500 watt aquarium heater in my 350 ltr tank overnight and it in the morning the water temperature is just luke warm.
Still worth doing though as it does stop the tank, hose and pump from freezing up.
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It wont be any warmer than the water you get from your tank in the spring.
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It takes 15kw of energy to heat 500ltrs by 25degrees.
0.6kw will take 25hrs assuming zero loss of heat.
Water at top obviously will be hotter.
Simple formula is
6kw per 1000ltrs per hour per 5 degree rise in temp.
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So as previous poster says 1 degree per hour is what you will get.
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If i turn the heater on at 9pm and leave till 8am next morning, giving 11hrs of heating time.....
Ive just checked temp after 7hrs :(
So start was 5. something and now 7 hrs later its only 18.5 so not quite hot water. But on brightside, it wont freeze so thats a plus. Apart from paying over the odds for the two heaters its not that bad. But checking out different wattage and prices on internet, im going to stick to the idea of just plonking heaters in over night for time being but 2 higher wattage heaters. Which i will post about another time.
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I bung a 500w element into a half filled 650l tank. It stops the outlet freezing up. But that's it. On hard frosticle mornings, the water aint warm, just above zero.
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Nathan, check the water temp at the bottom of the tank. It will be much lower.
You can't argue with physics
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Ambient temp will have an affect also too.
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C'mon then, don't keep us all in suspenders!
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C'mon then, don't keep us all in suspenders!
Haha, didnt want to post it. Not as good as i was hoping.
Lol on plus i had little heat bubbles in the tank........but only got upto 24.5. So at least it wont freeze so thats a plus.
But i have ordered a couple of 1kw heaters to stick in so that should give better results
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At least it was a cheap and easy experiment- good on you for being honest with the results.🖒
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But i have ordered a couple of 1kw heaters to stick in so that should give better results
I'm no electrician but you've just more than trebled the wattage, be careful, especially if you are running 2kw through one extension or even on the same circuit breaker.
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On the plus side the science looks more promising.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1485341539_Capture.JPG)
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But i have ordered a couple of 1kw heaters to stick in so that should give better results
I'm no electrician but you've just more than trebled the wattage, be careful, especially if you are running 2kw through one extension or even on the same circuit breaker.
Indeed 2kw is a lot of draw for prolonged periods of time from a standard house socket and a standard extension reel. Last thing you want is the van or house to go up in smoke while you're fast asleep.
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I've melted extension leads into dripping lumps before!
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Our vans have the 3kw heating elements fitted into the tanks about 2 inches above the bottom of the tank, they are short elements so as not to flex and wobble. Our electrician also has them wired up to commando type sockets with 4mm cable. Good job, we circulate the water in the vans on the lowest setting on the varistreams over night so the pipes etc don't freeze.
With saying that it's only now and then we actually do this as the vans stay in the workshop at night.
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gas or diesel heaters mate.your just wasting your time with fish tank heaters and the like.their ok if you just want to stop your tank freezing up(but you can do that by chucking in an oil filled radiator in the van overnight).
no good if you want proper hot water for more cleaning power.
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Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,
get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"
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Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,
get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"
;D ;D
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .
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Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,
get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"
;D ;D
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .
Unfortunately your knowledge of physics lets you down, other than a few inches on the top your water was never in the twenties
and its the same now, the water at the bottom of the tank cools down first as the heat rises to the top.
The important reading will be what's going through the pump at the bottom of the tank as it will be a more accurate reading
of what to expect.
That's the problem when using immersion heaters to heat static water, the top of the tank could be 30 degrees and the bottom could only be 10 degrees, to get the water at the bottom to 30 degrees the top will need to be a lot higher, on demand is the only way to get an accurate constant temperature flow.
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My readings to clarify is after i have stuck my arm into my tank and gave it a good swirl around mixing the water.
In addition my heaters are placed at the bottom section of my tank, allowing the heated water to swirl to the top.
Admittedly a mobile shower unit to heat the water on demand is a good idea. However i dont wish to carry gas in the back of the van, nor the faff of re plumbing my system to pass through it.
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You could pull off a different fuse and add more elements and watts?
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I run 3 kw heater on carpet cleaning machine and it's no problem with electrical supply.
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I run 3 kw heater on carpet cleaning machine and it's no problem with electrical supply.
It would be in a 500/600 ltr tank pulling a full draw for Six hours constant!
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I run 3 kw heater on carpet cleaning machine and it's no problem with electrical supply.
It would be in a 500/600 ltr tank pulling a full draw for Six hours constant!
10 hours even.
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My readings to clarify is after i have stuck my arm into my tank and gave it a good swirl around mixing the water.
In addition my heaters are placed at the bottom section of my tank, allowing the heated water to swirl to the top.
Admittedly a mobile shower unit to heat the water on demand is a good idea. However i dont wish to carry gas in the back of the van, nor the faff of re plumbing my system to pass through it.
Each to there own I suppose but I would not be without my chepo fastar 8 L water heater that's for sure.
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Well if this next attempt doesnt work i might end up eating my words and going for the gas boiler option in the end
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Will heat 100 meters of
Hose and all internal pipes lol I think not,it's a bit like an L5 it's not designed to heat large volumes of water.
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Will heat 100 meters of
Hose and all internal pipes lol I think not,it's a bit like an L5 it's not designed to heat large volumes of water.
L5's are poop compared to a fastar 8L.
And no I would not use it to heat the water in my two tanks as that would be just daft when it's designed for on-demand use.
However spring do a controller that has a frost protection mode built in that will turn on either a lpg or diesel type water heater if you wanted to go down that route. No idea how good they are as I've never bothered myself.
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I've got the fastar heater. Dogs b******s. Now its been tweaked.
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Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,
get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"
;D ;D
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .
60 degrees at the tank at the start of the day is not 60 degrees onto the glass, my immersion has an adjustable thermostat so you can turn it down if you dont want it that hot.
my tank was custom made with a custom immersion made to my specifications so not just some cut and bodge it job on the cheap
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Out of curiosity, if 60 in tank what will it be at the brush end. Assuming your tank is well insulated as you said, i would be expecting it to be between high end 50's - 60 throughout the day.
My tank is insulated by myself and over 24 hrs i only lost 6 or 7 degrees in temp. So at 60 in tank what temp do you get at brush end on your first couple of jobs??
What is the highest regular safe temp to use on glass?? (Havent a clue, hence the question)
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I've got the fastar heater. Dogs b******s. Now its been tweaked.
I used mine today for something a bit different. Just hooked up the inlet of the heater to an outside tap to add hot water to a softwash mix. Then used it again to rinse down the render walls etc with hot tap water... How cool was that ;D
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Out of curiosity, if 60 in tank what will it be at the brush end. Assuming your tank is well insulated as you said, i would be expecting it to be between high end 50's - 60 throughout the day.
My tank is insulated by myself and over 24 hrs i only lost 6 or 7 degrees in temp. So at 60 in tank what temp do you get at brush end on your first couple of jobs??
What is the highest regular safe temp to use on glass?? (Havent a clue, hence the question)
don't know I have not tested it with a thermometer, I have never had any problems damaging a window with hot water, the temp at the brush is variable and depends on how long the hose is reeled out how much I have turned flow off etc etc either way its hot in the tank and hot at the brush
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I have water coming out the brush so its quite hot. The sort of hot you get out your hot water tap where its close to getting too hot. Not had a problem with any glass so far this winter. I bet it cools more in the time that it takes to get from the brush head to the glass than it does all the length of uncoiled hose lying on the ground. Partly because I use fan jets and that’ll encourage the temp to drop rapidly IMO.
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Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.
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60 Degrees in the tank,what bull poop that is lol 😂
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Mine comes out the tank through the DI and into the heater and if on 70 on the controller i don't get 60,for it to be effective in the cold any hot system has to have some sort of frost stat setup to keep everything warm i.e. Hoses etc otherwise you'll have a tank of hot water you can't get at cos all the pipes are frozen solid.
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Erm no, because the tank acts as a giant radiator and heats the back of the van. Put the reel hose in the top of the tank for a few minutes and pump until hot and you are ready to go.
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Erm no, because the tank acts as a giant radiator and heats the back of the van. Put the reel hose in the top of the tank for a few minutes and pump until hot and you are ready to go.
Exactly, I use a 3KW immersion, I open my back doors in the morning and everything in the back of the van is nice and warm. I have a 750 litre tank in mine, I will test how hot my water is on Monday.
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60 Degrees in the tank,what bull poop that is lol 😂
why is water at 60 degrees in the tank so unbelievable? this site is so full of morons its unreal sometimes
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Because you didn't spend three grand on some complicated system then it can't possibly work can it?
Fifty quid to get hot water? Impossible!
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60 Degrees in the tank,what bull poop that is lol 😂
That's pretty rich from someone who up until last week didn't even understand how his controller works!
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Well my heaters came or should i say heater and not the one i ordered either.
So last night put in one half of my tank the two 300wat heaters and the other half of the tank (500l upright wydale tank) a 500w steel heater.
This morning i took the lid of and felt the heat, so that was a good sign. In went the tds temp stick and got a reading of 40degrees. So put my hand in and its lovely and warm not hot hot, so i can see why it does need to be close to 60 to state you use hot water, but for now this will do me nicely.
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It doesn't matter what temperature you have in the tank or what the heater is producing temp wise , if you have 100 meters of hose on the ground in cold conditions it will rapidly reduce the heat of the water , if you are using just 20 meters it will be a lot hotter , I think the important thing is that it will be a lot warmer than than tap water making the working day easier , anything is better than cold water , we run the boiler flat out summer and winter , never had a problem breaking glass Evan on frosty mornings , in the summer we turn off the boiler at lunch time and the tank is hot for the rest of the day , I have never put a thermomiter in the tank but you wouldn't want to put your hand in it it's that hot
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An element can work... but because of the amount of water we use each day it’s too dynamic. Well that’s my thoughts...
And a waste of money....
Better to have a small greenhouse heater on each night to stop the freeze and warm the water by a degree or 2...
My heater packed in after 6 years on Monday and by last night my pipes were frozen... not my reel or pole as they were in the flat but the actual pump and pipes... and that NEVER happened when I had the heater going overnight (cost £1 a night) and allowed me to work the next day EVEN when its 0c or -1c..
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An element can work... but because of the amount of water we use each day it’s too dynamic. Well that’s my thoughts...
And a waste of money....
Better to have a small greenhouse heater on each night to stop the freeze and warm the water by a degree or 2...
My heater packed in after 6 years on Monday and by last night my pipes were frozen... not my reel or pole as they were in the flat but the actual pump and pipes... and that NEVER happened when I had the heater going overnight (cost £1 a night) and allowed me to work the next day EVEN when its 0c or -1c..
Que? How is it a waste of money to have a tank full of hot water for around £2 per time when you spend £1 to raise the temp by only a degree or two? What exactly do you mean by saying an element is too dynamic?
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3 kw element in a decent size van tank must cost more than £2 to run each night surely?
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3 kw element in a decent size van tank must cost more than £2 to run each night surely?
I have it on for about 8 hours, someone on here done the maths ( can't remember who ) and I'm sure it was around £2 per night?
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An element can work... but because of the amount of water we use each day it’s too dynamic. Well that’s my thoughts...
I'd have thought an element was not dynamic enough...
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Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.
60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270 and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi
all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used
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Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.
60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi
all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used
270c ? ;D
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Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,
get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"
;D ;D
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .
Unfortunately your knowledge of physics lets you down, other than a few inches on the top your water was never in the twenties
and its the same now, the water at the bottom of the tank cools down first as the heat rises to the top.
The important reading will be what's going through the pump at the bottom of the tank as it will be a more accurate reading
of what to expect.
That's the problem when using immersion heaters to heat static water, the top of the tank could be 30 degrees and the bottom could only be 10 degrees, to get the water at the bottom to 30 degrees the top will need to be a lot higher, on demand is the only way to get an accurate constant temperature flow.
Your right, but the heat can be evened out by dropping an impeller into the tank.
A local windy sets his to run for 10 mins each hour while the immersion is on.
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Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.
60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi
all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used
270c ? ;D
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With 3,000 psi standard, the Titan has the capacity for carpet, hard surface, and pressure washer cleaning applications.
The extreme performance truckmount that will do anything, do it better, and yet be reliable and easy to maintain.
Powered by a 61 horsepower GM Vortec® 1.6 liter, fuel injected engine and a Tuthill™ 5009 tri-lobe blower, the Titan lets you operate three cleaning speeds and run three wands simultaneously. You also have the flexibility of selecting the heat and vacuum you want, depending on the size of the job
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Had my water at around 40 degrees today it looked like it was on fire with steam,customers love the hot water most are amazed you can get hot
Water that far up a pole.
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Had my water at around 40 degrees today it looked like it was on fire with steam,customers love the hot water most are amazed you can get hot
Water that far up a pole.
can you get some pics ? would love to see this ,
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Still at 132 c that titan truck mount is a beast for sure.
Do you use it much for hard surface cleaning?
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Still at 132 c that titan truck mount is a beast for sure.
Do you use it much for hard surface cleaning?
yes mostly on stone floors , we don't do outside drives as I don't like the gear getting dirty and banged about , then having to spend hours cleaning it to take it inside a home or a ship so I like to keep away from the outside stuff
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Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.
60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi
all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used
270c ? ;D
something for you to read gob poope
With a 61 horsepower GM Vortec™ 1.6 liter, fuel-injected engine, and Tuthill’s™ tri-lobe blower, the Titan 875 has the POWER to run three wands simultaneously with three cleaning speeds. How’s that for productivity!
The Titan’s exclusive heat exchanger system produces cleaning temperatures up to 270 degrees Fahrenheit and the ADC™ temperature control keeps that heat consistent and immediate.
With 3,000 psi standard, the Titan has the capacity for carpet, hard surface, and pressure washer cleaning applications.
The extreme performance truckmount that will do anything, do it better, and yet be reliable and easy to maintain.
Powered by a 61 horsepower GM Vortec® 1.6 liter, fuel injected engine and a Tuthill™ 5009 tri-lobe blower, the Titan lets you operate three cleaning speeds and run three wands simultaneously. You also have the flexibility of selecting the heat and vacuum you want, depending on the size of the job
Like I said 270c? It's Fahrenheit you berk!
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Doh! ::)roll
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Just over boiling point so steam then? Doesn't sound quite so impressive.
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Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.
60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi
all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used
270c ? ;D
something for you to read gob poope
With a 61 horsepower GM Vortec™ 1.6 liter, fuel-injected engine, and Tuthill’s™ tri-lobe blower, the Titan 875 has the POWER to run three wands simultaneously with three cleaning speeds. How’s that for productivity!
The Titan’s exclusive heat exchanger system produces cleaning temperatures up to 270 degrees Fahrenheit and the ADC™ temperature control keeps that heat consistent and immediate.
With 3,000 psi standard, the Titan has the capacity for carpet, hard surface, and pressure washer cleaning applications.
The extreme performance truckmount that will do anything, do it better, and yet be reliable and easy to maintain.
Powered by a 61 horsepower GM Vortec® 1.6 liter, fuel injected engine and a Tuthill™ 5009 tri-lobe blower, the Titan lets you operate three cleaning speeds and run three wands simultaneously. You also have the flexibility of selecting the heat and vacuum you want, depending on the size of the job
Susan you said 270C, then when you quoted the manufacturers blurb it says 270F. Big difference, perhaps the person who pointed this out to you isn't a gob $hite in reality.
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So today has been my first day back at work since just before xmass. (Had half day in high winds this month and rest ive been ill 😢)
So ive managed to get 40 degrees in my insullated tank which has held its temp really well. Each time i open van doors its great to get the warm air.
Before start of work i stuck my heater in van for half hr to warm the hoses up so i dont loose the heat in water to the hose. Seems to have done the trick 😆
Its not scolding hot like some have suggested it needs to be, but warm enough to actually heat my pole and make my hose more manageable. During cold months im certainly keeping this going it makes a massive difference.
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Legionnaires disease - temperature of water.
The bacteria multiply where temperatures are between 20-45°C and nutrients are available. The bacteria are dormant below 20°C and do not survive above 60°C. Legionnaires' disease is a potentially fatal type of pneumonia, contracted by inhaling airborne water droplets containing viable Legionella bacteria.
Thought I would give it a mention ;D
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Legionnaires disease - temperature of water.
The bacteria multiply where temperatures are between 20-45°C and nutrients are available. The bacteria are dormant below 20°C and do not survive above 60°C. Legionnaires' disease is a potentially fatal type of pneumonia, contracted by inhaling airborne water droplets containing viable Legionella bacteria.
Thought I would give it a mention ;D
To say were beggers, we're educated beggers.......more to it than just getting splashing water on peoples windows ;D ;D