[KS Cleaning]

3 kw element in a decent size van tank must cost more than £2 to run each night surely?

I have it on for about 8 hours, someone on here done the maths ( can't remember who ) and I'm sure it was around £2 per night?

[Soupy]

An element can work... but because of the amount of water we use each day it’s too dynamic.  Well that’s my thoughts...

I'd have thought an element was not dynamic enough...

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.

60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270 and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi

all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.

60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi

all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used

270c ? 

[tlwcs]

Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,

get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"

 
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My  replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .

Unfortunately your knowledge of physics lets you down, other than a few inches on the top your water was never in the twenties
and its the same now, the water at the bottom of the tank cools down first as the heat rises to the top.
The important reading will be what's going through the pump at the bottom of the tank as it will be a more accurate reading
of what to expect.
That's the problem when using immersion heaters to heat static water, the top of the tank could be 30 degrees and the bottom could only be 10 degrees, to get the water at the bottom to 30 degrees the top will need to be a lot higher, on demand is the only  way to get an accurate constant temperature flow.

Your right, but the  heat can be evened out by dropping an impeller into the tank.
A local windy sets his to run for 10 mins each hour while the immersion is on.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.

60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi

all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used

270c ? 

something for you to read gob poope

With a 61 horsepower GM Vortec™ 1.6 liter, fuel-injected engine, and Tuthill’s™ tri-lobe blower, the Titan 875 has the POWER to run three wands simultaneously with three cleaning speeds. How’s that for productivity!

The Titan’s exclusive heat exchanger system produces cleaning temperatures up to 270 degrees Fahrenheit and the ADC™ temperature control keeps that heat consistent and immediate.

With 3,000 psi standard, the Titan has the capacity for carpet, hard surface, and pressure washer cleaning applications.
The extreme performance truckmount that will do anything, do it better, and yet be reliable and easy to maintain.




Powered by a 61 horsepower GM Vortec® 1.6 liter, fuel injected engine and a Tuthill™ 5009 tri-lobe blower, the Titan lets you operate three cleaning speeds and run three wands simultaneously. You also have the flexibility of selecting the heat and vacuum you want, depending on the size of the job

[NWH]

Had my water at around 40 degrees today it looked like it was on fire with steam,customers love the hot water most are amazed you can get hot
Water that far up a pole.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Had my water at around 40 degrees today it looked like it was on fire with steam,customers love the hot water most are amazed you can get hot
Water that far up a pole.

can you get some pics ? would love to see this ,

[Smurf]

Still at 132 c that titan truck mount is a beast for sure.
Do you use it much for hard surface cleaning?

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Still at 132 c that titan truck mount is a beast for sure.
Do you use it much for hard surface cleaning?

yes mostly on stone floors , we don't do outside drives as I don't like the gear getting dirty and banged about , then having to spend hours cleaning it to take it inside a home or a ship so I like to keep away from the outside stuff

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.

60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi

all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used

270c ? 

something for you to read gob poope

With a 61 horsepower GM Vortec™ 1.6 liter, fuel-injected engine, and Tuthill’s™ tri-lobe blower, the Titan 875 has the POWER to run three wands simultaneously with three cleaning speeds. How’s that for productivity!

The Titan’s exclusive heat exchanger system produces cleaning temperatures up to 270 degrees Fahrenheit and the ADC™ temperature control keeps that heat consistent and immediate.

With 3,000 psi standard, the Titan has the capacity for carpet, hard surface, and pressure washer cleaning applications.
The extreme performance truckmount that will do anything, do it better, and yet be reliable and easy to maintain.




Powered by a 61 horsepower GM Vortec® 1.6 liter, fuel injected engine and a Tuthill™ 5009 tri-lobe blower, the Titan lets you operate three cleaning speeds and run three wands simultaneously. You also have the flexibility of selecting the heat and vacuum you want, depending on the size of the job

Like I said 270c? It's Fahrenheit you berk!

[Dave Willis]

Doh! 

[Dave Willis]

Just over boiling point so steam then? Doesn't sound quite so impressive.

[Tosh]

Nathan....unless you running it constantly, and I mean constantly, through the pipes all morning and again all afternoon you will probably get about 66% of the tank temperature the rest will be lost in the hose length especially if your running 100m of it at this time of year over cold ground.
It will take a good few minutes at start up on morning and afternoon to reach said temperature so you will either have to start off cleaning with cold water or wait.
Depends on what you put the flow rate to but if you want it hot on start up you will waste a fair bit of water.
I use 60c hot water for carpet cleaning and over say a 20m run first thing it can take 90 seconds or more to get up to a decent temperature and that's hose run indoors not outdoors.

60c for cleaning carpets is northing we use 270c and at the wand jets it I around 250ish at 500psi

all so you can lose heat quicker if using a four jet wand or brush (window cleaning) its well know in the c.c. trade that the single jet wands hold the heat better , so I guess it will be the same for window cleaning two jets better then four where heat is used

270c ? 

something for you to read gob poope

With a 61 horsepower GM Vortec™ 1.6 liter, fuel-injected engine, and Tuthill’s™ tri-lobe blower, the Titan 875 has the POWER to run three wands simultaneously with three cleaning speeds. How’s that for productivity!

The Titan’s exclusive heat exchanger system produces cleaning temperatures up to 270 degrees Fahrenheit and the ADC™ temperature control keeps that heat consistent and immediate.

With 3,000 psi standard, the Titan has the capacity for carpet, hard surface, and pressure washer cleaning applications.
The extreme performance truckmount that will do anything, do it better, and yet be reliable and easy to maintain.




Powered by a 61 horsepower GM Vortec® 1.6 liter, fuel injected engine and a Tuthill™ 5009 tri-lobe blower, the Titan lets you operate three cleaning speeds and run three wands simultaneously. You also have the flexibility of selecting the heat and vacuum you want, depending on the size of the job

Susan you said 270C, then when you quoted the manufacturers blurb it says 270F. Big difference, perhaps the person who pointed this out to you isn't a gob $hite in reality.

[nathankaye]

So today has been my first day back at work since just before xmass. (Had half day in high winds this month and rest ive been ill 😢)
So ive managed to get 40 degrees in my insullated tank which has held its temp really well. Each time i open van doors its great to get the warm air.
Before start of work i stuck my heater in van for half hr to warm the hoses up so i dont loose the heat in water to the hose.  Seems to have done the trick 😆
Its not scolding hot like some have suggested it needs to be, but warm enough to actually heat my pole and make my hose  more manageable. During cold months im certainly keeping this going it makes a massive difference.

[Smurf]

Legionnaires disease - temperature of water.
The bacteria multiply where temperatures are between 20-45°C and nutrients are available. The bacteria are dormant below 20°C and do not survive above 60°C. Legionnaires' disease is a potentially fatal type of pneumonia, contracted by inhaling airborne water droplets containing viable Legionella bacteria.

Thought I would give it a mention 

[nathankaye]

Legionnaires disease - temperature of water.
The bacteria multiply where temperatures are between 20-45°C and nutrients are available. The bacteria are dormant below 20°C and do not survive above 60°C. Legionnaires' disease is a potentially fatal type of pneumonia, contracted by inhaling airborne water droplets containing viable Legionella bacteria.

Thought I would give it a mention 

To say were beggers, we're educated beggers.......more to it than just getting splashing water on peoples windows