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Soupy

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2017, 08:18:58 am »
C'mon then, don't keep us all in suspenders!
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nathankaye

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2017, 08:54:36 am »
C'mon then, don't keep us all in suspenders!

Haha, didnt want to post it. Not as good as i was hoping.
Lol on plus i had little heat bubbles in the tank........but only got upto 24.5. So at least it wont freeze so thats a plus.
But i have ordered a couple of 1kw heaters to stick in so that should give better results
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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2017, 09:33:15 am »
At least it was a cheap and easy experiment- good on you for being honest with the results.🖒
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Soupy

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2017, 10:46:35 am »
But i have ordered a couple of 1kw heaters to stick in so that should give better results

I'm no electrician but you've just more than trebled the wattage, be careful, especially if you are running 2kw through one extension or even on the same circuit breaker.
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Soupy

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2017, 10:52:37 am »
On the plus side the science looks more promising.

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Smurf

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2017, 12:26:54 pm »
But i have ordered a couple of 1kw heaters to stick in so that should give better results

I'm no electrician but you've just more than trebled the wattage, be careful, especially if you are running 2kw through one extension or even on the same circuit breaker.

Indeed 2kw is a lot of draw for prolonged periods of time from a standard house socket and a standard extension reel.  Last thing you want is the van or house to go up in smoke while you're fast asleep.

Og

Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2017, 07:58:10 pm »
I've melted extension leads into dripping lumps before!

alanwilson

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2017, 11:09:21 pm »
Our vans  have the 3kw heating elements fitted into the tanks about 2 inches above the bottom of the tank, they are short elements so as not to flex and wobble. Our electrician also has them wired up to commando type sockets with 4mm cable. Good job, we circulate the water in the vans on the lowest setting on the varistreams over night so the pipes etc don't freeze.

With saying that it's only now and then we actually do this as the vans stay in the workshop at night.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

dazmond

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2017, 11:22:50 pm »
 gas or diesel heaters mate.your just wasting your time with fish tank heaters and the like.their ok if you just want to stop your tank freezing up(but you can do that by chucking in an oil filled radiator in the van overnight).

no good if you want proper hot water for more cleaning power.
price higher/work harder!

Scrimble

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2017, 09:57:39 am »
Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,

get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"

nathankaye

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2017, 10:43:30 am »
Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,

get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"

 ;D ;D
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My  replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .
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Dry Clean

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2017, 11:29:08 am »
Had my immersion heater on overnight last night, water in tank is at 60 degrees,

get yourself a proper immersion heater waster of money and time with pond heaters, you need to change the title of this thread to "finally on luke warm water"

 ;D ;D
But saying that, surely 60 degrees is way too hot and would do damage to windows.
Im looking at just heating to about 34 degrees. At the moment im off work due to family illness, so ive a little time to play about. As i mentioned in first thread im not keen to cut into ny tank, im good at diy but it normally takes 2nd attempt to get right so i can see leaks springing here n there if i attempt it. My  replacement heaters are due today so will test it out tonight.
I am pleased with my tank insulation though, because since yesterday morning when i last took the reading and turned off the heaters, ive just been out to take a temp reading and it was just short of 20. So within 24 hrs and no extra heating in van overnight, ive only lost a handfull of degrees of heat .


Unfortunately your knowledge of physics lets you down, other than a few inches on the top your water was never in the twenties
and its the same now, the water at the bottom of the tank cools down first as the heat rises to the top.
The important reading will be what's going through the pump at the bottom of the tank as it will be a more accurate reading
of what to expect.
That's the problem when using immersion heaters to heat static water, the top of the tank could be 30 degrees and the bottom could only be 10 degrees, to get the water at the bottom to 30 degrees the top will need to be a lot higher, on demand is the only  way to get an accurate constant temperature flow.

nathankaye

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2017, 01:10:41 pm »
My readings to clarify is after i have stuck my arm into my tank and gave it a good swirl around mixing the water.
In addition my heaters are placed at the bottom section of my tank, allowing the heated water to swirl to the top.

Admittedly a mobile shower unit to heat the water on demand is a good idea. However i dont wish to carry gas in the back of the van, nor the faff of re plumbing my system to pass through it.
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Og

Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2017, 02:54:35 pm »
You could pull off a different fuse and add more elements and watts?

JandS

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2017, 04:23:55 pm »
I run 3 kw heater on carpet cleaning machine and it's no problem with electrical supply.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2017, 04:48:59 pm »
I run 3 kw heater on carpet cleaning machine and it's no problem with electrical supply.

It would be in a 500/600 ltr tank pulling a full draw for Six hours constant!
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Soupy

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2017, 04:50:54 pm »
I run 3 kw heater on carpet cleaning machine and it's no problem with electrical supply.

It would be in a 500/600 ltr tank pulling a full draw for Six hours constant!

10 hours even.
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Smurf

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2017, 05:14:02 pm »
My readings to clarify is after i have stuck my arm into my tank and gave it a good swirl around mixing the water.
In addition my heaters are placed at the bottom section of my tank, allowing the heated water to swirl to the top.

Admittedly a mobile shower unit to heat the water on demand is a good idea. However i dont wish to carry gas in the back of the van, nor the faff of re plumbing my system to pass through it.

Each to there own I suppose  but I would not be without my chepo fastar 8 L  water heater that's for sure.


nathankaye

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2017, 05:17:59 pm »
Well if this next attempt doesnt work i might end up eating my words and going for the gas boiler option in the end
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NWH

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Re: finally on hot water
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2017, 05:39:12 pm »
Will heat 100 meters of
Hose and all internal pipes lol I think not,it's a bit like an L5 it's not designed to heat large volumes of water.