Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: roundbuilder on December 11, 2013, 08:44:19 pm
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Has conned another member on here ste m.
From the add in for sale section 4040ro and 75 litre trolley, sent ste m emails pretending to be miltown...
We need to stop this guy.
Everyone who has been conned we need names and numbers so can get him sent down for fraud... He is scum!.
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how do you know?
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cos its me, thanks for the call mick, right I'm sending him an email to peterwindowcleaner@hotmail.co.uk is this right.
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Just spoke to ste m and compared bank account details and were the same and sent to p allen..
Need to stop this fool..
He has now deleted his fb accounts and the email address i had for him. Only thing now is for the police as noway of getting hold of him unless we get everyone he has conned together to pay him a visit... The man is taking the mick now conning fellow window cleaners for our hard earned cash to pay for him to live the high live..
Peterwindowcleaner@hotmail.co.uk is the only live email address he has left that works.
Easy to find his family and relatives just type allen weymouth into facebook!!
His also on twitter with a few family members following him.
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cos its me, thanks for the call mick, right I'm sending him an email to peterwindowcleaner@hotmail.co.uk is this right.
Yes thats right..
Tell him your on your way to his house and to avoid getting hurt he best pay up now...
Ill bet money he will pay up coz he is a weisal..
Or tell him you will post his address everywhere and tell everyone he is a peodo! That will make the pondlife pay..
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that email is now dead
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Bummer!
Get to him through his family then on fb or twitter.
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that email is now dead
how much did you pay?
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£275 so slightly worse
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that email is now dead
ring him house number
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House number dont work windie i tried all his numbers
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dead. i tried 01305814748
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dead. i tried 01305814748
not good.
find the area hes from and post on facebook pages.
I.e named and shamed weymouth.
spotted weymouth etc and get numbers off people.
he must be a low life loser.
I hope you get your money back.
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http://www.builderfind.co.uk/listing/jim-allen-weymouth/67010#.UqjURZkgG0c
Maybe his dad or family member??
Worth a call
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Does this guy live at coppice close ,Weymouth,
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Does this guy live at coppice close ,Weymouth,
yes m8
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This guy is ridiculous.
So we have a home address for him......
Interesting.
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http://www.weymouthpeople.co.uk/tradesmen/window-cleaning/p-allen/business-14875610-detail/business.html
read feedback.lol
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Ripped me off last year,I bought a pump and controller from him £120 brand new,delivered no problem,he said he had another so I transfersd money into his account but never received it,every time I contacted him excuses excuses,so I gave up,if I didn't live 250 mile away from him I'd be round to see him scum bag.
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On his profile pic is it the left arm that's fake?
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Ripped me off last year,I bought a pump and controller from him £120 brand new,delivered no problem,he said he had another so I transfersd money into his account but never received it,every time I contacted him excuses excuses,so I gave up,if I didn't live 250 mile away from him I'd be round to see him scum bag.
chase him m8
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is this the person who stuck a add on ciu today for a website and domain ?
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is this the person who stuck a add on ciu today for a website and domain ?
NO THATS PETER DALEY different bloke
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why is that account gone ???
only placed today.
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Website for him
http://m.192.com/atoz/business/weymouth-dt3/window-cleaning/p-allen/5a53a5955c9d5d578b6430c2587f1e149abdf920/ml/
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http://www.spanglefish.com/dorsetwindowcleaner/index.asp?pageid=230623
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surely there is enough evidence to go to the police now and have him done for fraud??
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hi if you want to know if he definitely lives there, ie 7 coppice close, you could always register with this site
http://www.192.com/places/dt/dt3-5/dt3-5sa/
im not sure how much it costs to buy credits, but it may be worth looking into it, if it gets you your money back.
Tony
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hi if you want to know if he definitely lives there, ie 7 coppice close, you could always register with this site
http://www.192.com/places/dt/dt3-5/dt3-5sa/
im not sure how much it costs to buy credits, but it may be worth looking into it, if it gets you your money back.
Tony
look up 2 posts m8
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I checked whois www.dorsetwindowcleaner.co.uk
and it's free so he don't own it any more.
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I've just got off the phone from the police, the fraud department that specialise in this is not open until tomorrow, i will be calling them in the morning. Ive also got my cousin who only lives an hour away from him as well but we'll see how the police go first
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oh yeh......sorry.....just trying to help :)
tony
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I've just got off the phone from the police, the fraud department that specialise in this is not open until tomorrow, i will be calling them in the morning. Ive also got my cousin who only lives an hour away from him as well but we'll see how the police go first
Mick and db cleaning services you should call them too!
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this is how colin got his money back as well last year, there will be a paper trail now and i will be pushing to press charges
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he is back online:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=179130.0
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he is back online:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=179130.0
It isnt miltown who is the conman ben!
Its sglods(p allen) who mailed ste m pretending to be miltown.
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as mick says, p alleys got my email and posed as mill town
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he is back online:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=179130.0
It isnt miltown who is the conman ben!
Its sglods(p allen) who mailed ste m pretending to be miltown.
really? OMG! even worse!
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I will be going to weymouth on Friday,
Would you like me to pop round his house,
(!!!!!! And say hello for you !!!!!)
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Ill give them a call tomorrow,I've still got a few old emails from him as evidence
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This has got to be for the police now, so much evidence, would be surprised
If they weren't interested.
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I'm a part time police officer in staffordshire police and I'm working in weymouth/dorchester next monday/tuesday. I will have a word with him.
Dean.
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Let's hope the long arm of the law catches up with him.
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I'm a part time police officer in staffordshire police and I'm working in weymouth/dorchester next monday/tuesday. I will have a word with him.
Dean.
Think again Dean.....could cause you a few problems within the Police.
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Yeh send the coppers round . I bet he's bricking me .they'll prob end up nicking ŷou lot for harassment.
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???
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I'm a part time police officer in staffordshire police and I'm working in weymouth/dorchester next monday/tuesday. I will have a word with him.
Dean.
Think again Dean.....could cause you a few problems within the Police.
Yes,
It wouldn't have been on police business though, more of a fellow window cleaner in the area chasing up a debt.
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It wouldn't have been on police business though, more of a fellow window cleaner in the area chasing up a debt.
Still...
I know exactly what I would do if an off duty copper came round to 'have a word' with me about a disputed business transaction. I'd wager a bet that the copper would end up in more trouble with the fuzz than I would...
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It wouldn't have been on police business though, more of a fellow window cleaner in the area chasing up a debt.
Still...
I know exactly what I would do if an off duty copper came round to 'have a word' with me about a disputed business transaction. I'd wager a bet that the copper would end up in more trouble with the fuzz than I would...
Its a bit more than a disputed business transaction though isn't it?
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Its a bit more than a disputed business transaction though isn't it?
Not until that's proven you'd have thought. One mans word against another until proven, surely...
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4 or 5 mens words against 1. :)
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4 or 5 mens words against 1. :)
That makes it legally certain does it?
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There's certainly a case to have a suspicion that the guy might be a bad egg yes.
I've got no intention of going to weymouth and flashing my warrant card in his face if that's what you're getting at.
What I was saying is that I would be happy to go around and have a word with him to see what he was playing at.....which I'd be more than happy for somebody to do for me if I was in the same situation.
Based on what I've read on here, there seems to be a pattern that this bloke fraudulently entices other people into parting with their cash and not delivering on what he has promised. Which isn't on in my eyes.
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It wouldn't have been on police business though, more of a fellow window cleaner in the area chasing up a debt.
you have taken a oath so you are a police officer 24/7 , you don't get to pick and choose when to be a civilian
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Its a bit more than a disputed business transaction though isn't it?
Not until that's proven you'd have thought. One mans word against another until proven, surely...
You can read the emails an then look at the bank transfers if you like. Hes a con man but the net is closing in. I'll do everything legally to make sure of that
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There's certainly a case to have a suspicion that the guy might be a bad egg yes.
I've got no intention of going to weymouth and flashing my warrant card in his face if that's what you're getting at.
What I was saying is that I would be happy to go around and have a word with him to see what he was playing at.....which I'd be more than happy for somebody to do for me if I was in the same situation.
Based on what I've read on here, there seems to be a pattern that this bloke fraudulently entices other people into parting with their cash and not delivering on what he has promised. Which isn't on in my eyes.
Sensible not flashing a warrant card, not so sensible announcing your intentions on a public forum you know he uses.
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Why is everyone being harsh about dean having a gentle word with him! It cant do no halm can it??? At least he has the balls to and is offering to help with the situation instead of being a no it all.
Fair play dean.
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hang him high !
at least let an angry mob get hold of him
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Why is everyone being harsh about dean having a gentle word with him! It cant do no halm can it??? At least he has the balls to and is offering to help with the situation instead of being a no it all.
Fair play dean.
Not having a go, just think it is a bad idea for a copper to use his power like that, it could very easily backfire on him.
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Why is everyone being harsh about dean having a gentle word with him! It cant do no halm can it??? At least he has the balls to and is offering to help with the situation instead of being a no it all.
Fair play dean.
Not having a go, just think it is a bad idea for a copper to use his power like that, it could very easily backfire on him.
He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
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Tar and feather the barsteward. ;D
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He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
Not sure the fuzz would see it that way if Mr Allen were to lodge an official complaint.
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He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
Not sure the fuzz would see it that way if Mr Allen were to lodge an official complaint.
the man obviously has been conning people for a while a number of
the members on here have had probs with him...can you seriously tell me
this halfwit will go knocking on the coppers doors looking for trouble...doubtful
at best :)
he paid mick up straight away, this chap just wants an easy score with
no hassle,i thought i read on this post that he has been fined a few
times before for various minor offences cant see him wanting to up
the ante!
put some pressure on..he will fold!
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He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
Not sure the fuzz would see it that way if Mr Allen were to lodge an official complaint.
the man obviously has been conning people for a while a number of
the members on here have had probs with him...can you seriously tell me
this halfwit will go knocking on the coppers doors looking for trouble...doubtful
at best :)
Perhaps a lynch mob could go ahead of Dean.
Dean could toddle along and 'rescue' Mr Allen from certain death after only sustaining a fractured testicle and a broken jaw.
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.jaw and testicle...you cant let the ref step in too early ;D
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Why is everyone being harsh about dean having a gentle word with him! It cant do no halm can it??? At least he has the balls to and is offering to help with the situation instead of being a no it all.
Fair play dean.
Not having a go, just think it is a bad idea for a copper to use his power like that, it could very easily backfire on him.
Thats up to him, get off his back, bloke is only trying to help in anyway he can....god what is it with some people on this forum ::)roll
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Just armless fun after all.
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??? ???.
No-one is getting on Dean's back.
It's because Dean mentioned in one of his posts, that he's a part time police officer in Staffordshire, but would be in the area where the scumbag lives and that he would have a word with the scumbag.
If Dean had no intention of using any authority of being a policeman.....why make any mention of it in his post.
My post to Dean was to say that he could cause himself problems if he did make it known that he is a policeman.
Dean said then said he had no intention of using police powers etc......end of.
So what's everyone banging-on-about....eh.
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What did the police say ste m???
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He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
Not sure the fuzz would see it that way if Mr Allen were to lodge an official complaint.
the man obviously has been conning people for a while a number of
the members on here have had probs with him...can you seriously tell me
this halfwit will go knocking on the coppers doors looking for trouble...doubtful
at best :)
he paid mick up straight away, this chap just wants an easy score with
no hassle,i thought i read on this post that he has been fined a few
times before for various minor offences cant see him wanting to up
the ante!
put some pressure on..he will fold!
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Pretty sure it was the copper saying he was going to do the knocking..
If I were a scumbag and I read on a public forum some copper saying he was coming round for a 'word' I'd be waiting with my camera phone. Maybe he is a halfwit maybe he isn't, either way an off duty copper going round for a 'word' is unlikely to help.
I understand this guy has some kind of disability? Plays even better into his hand(s) if you ask me.
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He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
Not sure the fuzz would see it that way if Mr Allen were to lodge an official complaint.
the man obviously has been conning people for a while a number of
the members on here have had probs with him...can you seriously tell me
this halfwit will go knocking on the coppers doors looking for trouble...doubtful
at best :)
he paid mick up straight away, this chap just wants an easy score with
no hassle,i thought i read on this post that he has been fined a few
times before for various minor offences cant see him wanting to up
the ante!
put some pressure on..he will fold!
???
Pretty sure it was the copper saying he was going to do the knocking..
If I were a scumbag and I read on a public forum some copper saying he was coming round for a 'word' I'd be waiting with my camera phone. Maybe he is a halfwit maybe he isn't, either way an off duty copper going round for a 'word' is unlikely to help.
I understand this guy has some kind of disability? Plays even better into his hand(s) if you ask me.
What's you're favourite type of window Stu?
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Dunno? Velux?
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Look, I am not disagreeing that what Dean is offering is commendable and I'm sure he has a better idea of how the situation is likely to pan out than I do. But, in my experience scumbags tend to lash out when cornered. If it were me I reckon I'd turn this situation to my advantage pretty easily.
Jus' sayin'.
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The correct way of dealing with it if I did do what I suggested, would be to visit Weymouth police station, and explain to the shift sergeant there what had been going on, had him a print out of the threads on here about Mr P Allen and explain to him that I was going around to visit the fella and see if I could suggest a deal which involves this guy paying back the money which we all believe he has stolen from some decent members from this forum.
Nowt wrong, immoral or illegal about that is there?
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Do they do single handcuffs?
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No sir.
Not the way I (and others) interperated your post, but yes, sounds sensible.
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Just go round midnight grab hold Of the tosser get the tyres out back of van put the tyres over his head put petrol on tyres and step back and watch the f***er burn and video it at the same time.Then put it up on YouTube
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Just go round midnight grab hold Of the tosser get the tyres out back of van put the tyres over his head put petrol on tyres and step back and watch the f***er burn and video it at the same time.Then put it up on YouTube
Wouldn't you just be easier to slap him with a wet fish?
Tools to hand and all that...
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Just go round midnight grab hold Of the tosser get the tyres out back of van put the tyres over his head put petrol on tyres and step back and watch the f***er burn and video it at the same time.Then put it up on YouTube
handy for speed cameras ............... dont tell Dean I said that though ;)
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He isnt going there being a copper, id imagine he will have the balls to knock on his door and tell him people are onto him and give him a chance to pay the money back! Thats what i would do and in fact a few of the sw window cleaners did for me going to his house.
Even if he did use his police power who cares p allen is breaking the law! Dean helps maintain the law.
Not sure the fuzz would see it that way if Mr Allen were to lodge an official complaint.
the man obviously has been conning people for a while a number of
the members on here have had probs with him...can you seriously tell me
this halfwit will go knocking on the coppers doors looking for trouble...doubtful
at best :)
he paid mick up straight away, this chap just wants an easy score with
no hassle,i thought i read on this post that he has been fined a few
times before for various minor offences cant see him wanting to up
the ante!
put some pressure on..he will fold!
???
Pretty sure it was the copper saying he was going to do the knocking..
If I were a scumbag and I read on a public forum some copper saying he was coming round for a 'word' I'd be waiting with my camera phone. Maybe he is a halfwit maybe he isn't, either way an off duty copper going round for a 'word' is unlikely to help.
I understand this guy has some kind of disability? Plays even better into his hand(s) if you ask me.
by coppers doors...i meant he is hardly going to go and report it ;D
and yes he is a halfwit....he keeps getting caught out ;D
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What did the police say ste m???
Mick I emailed you mate
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How did you pay, by debit card or visa ?
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bank transfer. its how he got everyone
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Was it a debit card though ?
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don't get what you mean, i transferred money from my paypal account to my wifes hsbc an then she transferred it to p alleys account
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Your wife's hsbc account , does the card say debit on it ?
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yes, her bank is sending us a letter that we then have to take into halifax
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That's good, you claim the money back off the bank under section 75 of the consumer credit act , cause you paid by debit card you have 90 days to put your claim in, if you paid by visa, you would of had 6 years to put your claim in. Don't let the bank fob you off
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The bank have told me I've been scammed, they say its the same as paying cash for something, I am going to go in to the local branch on Saturday to have a word as well
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Okies , don't let them fob you off
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He is back online... https://www.facebook.com/pallen.windowcleaner even cheaper... £2.50 fronts ::)roll
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Has hsbc told you to go to Halifax ?
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Okies , don't let them fob you off
funnily enough i was speaking to the fraud squad today and they said the same about the banks
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Has hsbc told you to go to Halifax ?
halifax told me they need either the police or hsbc to ask for the money, thats why hsbc is sending the letter out
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If you used your wife's hsbc debit card, then it's hsbc who you claim against. You have paid for goods that haven't arrived, the bank are at fault.
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they said though that by doing a bank transfer on line then its the same as a cash purchase, ill keep pushing though and I've still got a few avenues, all else fails then I've a long drive to go get my money
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FFS! Report it to the Police and insist they act. This is not a civil matter, its fraud and is a criminal matter and the Police will act. Get him dealt with by the law.
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Dave i have done this today to the fraud department, going into my local station on sat. Im going to push as hard as possible to get him prosecuted
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The correct way of dealing with it if I did do what I suggested, would be to visit Weymouth police station, and explain to the shift sergeant there what had been going on, had him a print out of the threads on here about Mr P Allen and explain to him that I was going around to visit the fella and see if I could suggest a deal which involves this guy paying back the money which we all believe he has stolen from some decent members from this forum.
Nowt wrong, immoral or illegal about that is there?
No there isn't dean, it's commendable.
I don't think anyone was trying to throw water on the idea, just how it appeared earlier.
A couple of letters making allegations of your conduct (regardless of truth) will end up on someone's desk and could cause you inconvenience if nothing else.
Record your meeting on your phone or something if you do go face to face.
Malicious people can create all sorts of problems for any government organisation type person, if they choose to be deceitful and targeted in their intentions.
Cover your back is more the message, I think.
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I have been by his house today but no sign of anyone around, but I know he is stillgoing around as he isputting cards through my customers doors all around the littlemoor area and also in weymouth town and dorchester. i will speak to some.other local cleaners and see if we can pinpoint his main atea of work so some of the ones that have been scammed can pay him a visit. He is an absolute twat havenat actually seen him around for a while but have heard he is still very active in certain areas
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Jamie can you email me please mate. Clean as a whistle window shot mail.com
Ste
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Hi mate i cant send an email its saying its invalid so maybe send one to me and i can reply
jbhandyman@hotmail.com
cheers
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Email sent mate. Unsure why mine wrote out the way it did above haha