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Title: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Washing Windows on January 04, 2013, 09:17:18 pm
I've just landed on a dead cheap IBC 1000L tank that I've cleaned up and I'm looking to use it as a static container in the garage for my pure water. What's the best way for me to get the water out and in to containers in my van fairly quickly?

Thanks in advance,

Duncan
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: king marko on January 04, 2013, 10:08:02 pm
Something like this mate?

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/transfer-pump-kit-p-314.html
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: david thomas on January 04, 2013, 10:15:56 pm
pure freedom but use a good quality pump  sewage pumps are good go to machine mart these pumps pass through thicker microns which is rare fo pure water but the shaft seal is good qualityI've had mine 2 years this is the most important part of the set up between I.b.c and van
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: david thomas on January 04, 2013, 10:19:37 pm
p/f for hose and triger simerlar to filling up your car/van
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on January 04, 2013, 10:54:32 pm
just use a bucket  ;D
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Richard Neal on January 04, 2013, 11:29:24 pm
just check whatever pump you get will fit through the hole in the tank, i had to cut my tank a lot to get it to fit!
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Mike #1 on January 05, 2013, 07:51:14 am
If you are only filling 25 litre containers and your tank has a tap on the bottom use the tap with a some 1/2" hose .

I know a guy who has his tank elevated about 2 ft of the ground and he fills his 300 litre flat tank in van without a pump and just connects to tap as mentioned above .

His 1000 ltr static tank is always full to the top and it takes about 40 mins to fill his 300 ltr tank . Mike
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 10:49:52 am
sub pump from wickes.com layflat hose from b&q and jub clips, all in about £70

if the ibc has the smaller hose just cut a v in the toip thats what I did when I used ibcs for static

will fill a 300 tank in about 5 mins.

Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: concept on January 05, 2013, 11:41:29 am
sub pump from wickes.com layflat hose from b&q and jub clips, all in about £70

if the ibc has the smaller hose just cut a v in the toip thats what I did when I used ibcs for static

will fill a 300 tank in about 5 mins.



My pump is still going strong after 3.5 years, good enbough for the job.

Next one will be a stronger one, as filling from empty can take a while, well, I say a while, 10 mins. I'm impatient.  ;D
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 11:46:16 am
sub pump from wickes.com layflat hose from b&q and jub clips, all in about £70

if the ibc has the smaller hose just cut a v in the toip thats what I did when I used ibcs for static

will fill a 300 tank in about 5 mins.



My pump is still going strong after 3.5 years, good enbough for the job.

Next one will be a stronger one, as filling from empty can take a while, well, I say a while, 10 mins. I'm impatient.  ;D
I saw one the others day as i too am impatient that does about 240l a min its about £200 about 20/30 weeks it would more than cover its cost
in lost time
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: concept on January 05, 2013, 12:01:52 pm
sub pump from wickes.com layflat hose from b&q and jub clips, all in about £70

if the ibc has the smaller hose just cut a v in the toip thats what I did when I used ibcs for static

will fill a 300 tank in about 5 mins.



My pump is still going strong after 3.5 years, good enbough for the job.

Next one will be a stronger one, as filling from empty can take a while, well, I say a while, 10 mins. I'm impatient.  ;D
I saw one the others day as i too am impatient that does about 240l a min its about £200 about 20/30 weeks it would more than cover its cost
in lost time

Hmm...theres a few around, and definitely will be in the upgrade of the static system!
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: EandM on January 05, 2013, 12:13:59 pm
Gravity ?
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 12:33:18 pm
Gravity ?
way to slow.

what are you asking ?
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Washing Windows on January 05, 2013, 12:54:27 pm
Something like this mate?

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/transfer-pump-kit-p-314.html

This is looking like the best option for us at the moment and thanks for the link Marko. I'll give purefreedom a ring on Monday and check the units dimensions as I'm not prepared to start cutting chunks out of the tank to fit it.

Damn shame there isn't a more affordable in-line option though where I could utilise the existing outlet. :(

Duncan
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 01:03:53 pm
Something like this mate?

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/transfer-pump-kit-p-314.html

This is looking like the best option for us at the moment and thanks for the link Marko. I'll give purefreedom a ring on Monday and check the units dimensions as I'm not prepared to start cutting chunks out of the tank to fit it.

Damn shame there isn't a more affordable in-line option though where I could utilise the existing outlet. :(

Duncan
I would be very very surprised if that can do anywhere near 100l a min with 1inch hose Duncan, if it can thats a cracking deal.

What size is the lid to your IBC ?
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: R.C Property on January 05, 2013, 03:48:07 pm
sub pump from wickes.com layflat hose from b&q and jub clips, all in about £70

if the ibc has the smaller hose just cut a v in the toip thats what I did when I used ibcs for static

will fill a 300 tank in about 5 mins.



My pump is still going strong after 3.5 years, good enbough for the job.

Next one will be a stronger one, as filling from empty can take a while, well, I say a while, 10 mins. I'm impatient.  ;D
I saw one the others day as i too am impatient that does about 240l a min its about £200 about 20/30 weeks it would more than cover its cost
in lost time

If you want one for less than £90 then here is one for you, it's a bit slower at 233lt a minute,

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tools/Water+Pumps/SIP+Submersible+2020+Stainless+Steel+Water+Pump+750W/d40/sd3220/p33192
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: dd on January 05, 2013, 04:41:15 pm
You can use the tank outlet. This is what I do. Cleaningspot sell this type of pump though they are more expensive.
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: EandM on January 05, 2013, 04:50:19 pm
Gravity ?
way to slow.

what are you asking ?

I gravity fill my 400l truck tank via 2 inch hose in about one minute.
Not really felt the need to go any faster than that...
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 05:12:15 pm
Gravity ?
way to slow.

what are you asking ?

I gravity fill my 400l truck tank via 2 inch hose in about one minute.
Not really felt the need to go any faster than that...
one minute  :o where is located ? on the roof of the house  :o
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 05, 2013, 05:27:22 pm
I use an exterior pump from Lidl when they were on offer. Brilliant, no cutting of tanks or lids required. Very fast too does my 650l in about five to ten minutes.
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 05, 2013, 05:32:06 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1357407106_lidl pump.jpg)

one of these
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 05:54:36 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1357407106_lidl pump.jpg)

one of these
with standard hose pipe ? are you kidding.

looks ok for a booster for ro unit though.

Can you still get these ?
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: king marko on January 05, 2013, 06:50:16 pm
Something like this mate?

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/transfer-pump-kit-p-314.html

This is looking like the best option for us at the moment and thanks for the link Marko. I'll give purefreedom a ring on Monday and check the units dimensions as I'm not prepared to start cutting chunks out of the tank to fit it.

Damn shame there isn't a more affordable in-line option though where I could utilise the existing outlet. :(

Duncan
I would be very very surprised if that can do anywhere near 100l a min with 1inch hose Duncan, if it can thats a cracking deal.

What size is the lid to your IBC ?
This is what ive got in my IBC - the whole system was from pure freedom anyway
They've cut a hole in the top of the tank, dropped the pump in, then used tek bolts/screws to place back the cut out
It fills my 600ltr tank fairly quickly - not super quick but sufficient enough for me - I'm certainly not stood about all morning waiting it to fill
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 05, 2013, 06:53:20 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1357407106_lidl pump.jpg)

one of these
with standard hose pipe ? are you kidding.

looks ok for a booster for ro unit though.

Can you still get these ?

Nope, inch pipe at least I use - rigid too. They come in on special offer once a year about sixty quid.

1000w
4600 litres per hour
4.5 bar
7m suction height
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: EandM on January 06, 2013, 02:19:33 am
Gravity ?
way to slow.

what are you asking ?

I gravity fill my 400l truck tank via 2 inch hose in about one minute.
Not really felt the need to go any faster than that...
one minute  :o where is located ? on the roof of the house  :o
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The base of the IBC is about five feet above the back of the truck. Fortunately I live on a hill.
My mates now defunct set up was in an old dairy and probably seven feet above the van.
With that sort of drop a full IBC will drain very quickly through two inch hose. His 500l upright was around a minute and a quarter.
We both used pumps through the DI units and had pure water in the IBCs.
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Washing Windows on January 06, 2013, 12:46:32 pm
What size is the lid to your IBC ?
140mm (5½ inch).

If you want one for less than £90 then here is one for you, it's a bit slower at 233lt a minute,

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tools/Water+Pumps/SIP+Submersible+2020+Stainless+Steel+Water+Pump+750W/d40/sd3220/p33192
Thanks for the link, it also looks like a viable option but again I will need to checkout it’s dimension to be sure it will fit through the opening.

Gravity ?
The base of the IBC is about five feet above the back of the truck. Fortunately I live on a hill.
Unfortunately I don’t.

I use an exterior pump from Lidl when they were on offer. Brilliant, no cutting of tanks or lids required. Very fast too does my 650l in about five to ten minutes.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1357407106_lidl pump.jpg)
one of these
Nope, inch pipe at least I use - rigid too. They come in on special offer once a year about sixty quid.

1000w
4600 litres per hour
4.5 bar
7m suction height
Sounds perfect, is there any product detail so that I can try and source it elsewhere?

You can use the tank outlet. This is what I do. Cleaningspot sell this type of pump though they are more expensive.
I’m probably being thick but I can’t find what you’re suggesting on the cleaning spot site, is there any chance you can post a link please?

Thanks so far to all for your help,

Duncan
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 06, 2013, 12:59:04 pm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0002BUYN0/ref=asc_df_B0002BUYN011354147?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=shopdc8451-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B0002BUYN0

Lidls version is a bit cheaper and more powerful
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Window Washers on January 06, 2013, 01:34:51 pm
Gravity ?
way to slow.

what are you asking ?

I gravity fill my 400l truck tank via 2 inch hose in about one minute.
Not really felt the need to go any faster than that...
one minute  :o where is located ? on the roof of the house  :o
[/quote


The base of the IBC is about five feet above the back of the truck. Fortunately I live on a hill.
My mates now defunct set up was in an old dairy and probably seven feet above the van.
With that sort of drop a full IBC will drain very quickly through two inch hose. His 500l upright was around a minute and a quarter.
We both used pumps through the DI units and had pure water in the IBCs.
very handy. Sadly I live in flat land Cambridgeshire
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Klean07 on January 06, 2013, 01:39:55 pm
just check whatever pump you get will fit through the hole in the tank, i had to cut my tank a lot to get it to fit!
I did this too which was frustrating!
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Washing Windows on January 06, 2013, 01:50:50 pm
I've managed to find what I need with all your help. It just shows that once you have the correct terminology (surface mounted water pump) google is your friend! :D

http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/sip-07614-surface-mounted-water-pump-ep--p112700?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=ncpc&utm_campaign=comparison

More than good enough for what I need.

Thanks again,

Duncan
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: Dave Willis on January 06, 2013, 02:10:38 pm
You'll need some brass adapters to fit your delivery hose by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: dd on January 06, 2013, 06:36:54 pm
It is on the cleaningspot website under "Transfer pumps and suction hose" section. Although the one on the Lawson site is a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: Best way to get water from my IBC static tank to the van?
Post by: traps7 on January 06, 2013, 07:46:24 pm
I use one of these: http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cpe120-1in-self-priming-water-pump

Still going strong after 3 and a half years.