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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Window Washers on December 06, 2012, 01:15:03 pm
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Hey Guys,
Do you have an automated sales funnels in your window cleaning business ?
or if not, do you know what they are ?
"Please vote on the poll"
One last thing if you said no, do you think it would work, if you dont why is this ?
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I've got one for my di resin. Never use it though.
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Does anyone want to enter a Lee Burbridge soundalike competition?
have you listened to Lee's voice :D No thanks
Can we not ask questions on here anymore I thought this was a forum for window cleaners ?
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I struggle getting out of the house, let alone automated sales funnels.
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Does anyone want to enter a Lee Burbridge soundalike competition?
;D ;D
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Ian why would you want to use a sales funnel, it's use is simply that of a forecasting tool.
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You mean like an affiliate program? I haven't yet, but I'm looking into it!
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You mean like an affiliate program? I haven't yet, but I'm looking into it!
that could be part of of the funnel Nat,
please could you vote if you havent already
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Ian why would you want to use a sales funnel, it's use is simply that of a forecasting tool.
it is Matt yes forcasting sales why would you not want to use one and make life easier and possibily more money from your customer base ?
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I have
Pour stuff in the top and it "Automatically" comes out of the bottom. ;D
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2 good replies so far.
I am trying to understand why you mock this, is it because you dont understand it or another reason ?
please no personal attacks its to early :)
any more posters that could answer please ?
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No I don`t but I do have a glass ball. Do you have one Ian. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No I don`t but I do have a glass ball. Do you have one Ian. ;D ;D ;D ;D
lol I dont need one I can read your mind slumpy ;D
so whats your answer to the question seeing as you click on to read this thread ?
Did you take the time to vote too :-*
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not a clue what you are on about. no doubt it has nothing to do with window cleaning.why dont you funnel your mind into something more interesting.
Edited: Reminder swearing is not allowed.
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not a clue wtf you are on about. no doubt it will be another lot of bull**** what has nothing to do with window cleaning.why dont you funnel your mind into something more interesting. your starting to bore the t**s off me.
Simply don't read them then, this forum is not here for just you..
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not a clue wtf you are on about. no doubt it will be another lot of bull**** what has nothing to do with window cleaning.why dont you funnel your mind into something more interesting. your starting to bore the t**s off me.
Dont read his threads.
Lee Burbidge used to really wind me up, so stopped reading his posts, job done.
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Does anyone want to enter a Lee Burbridge soundalike competition?
[/quoite imagine them to together :o. this clown is taking over this forum with the total rubbish he posts. Is there a ignore button i can use so i dont see his pointless threads?him & that other clown who puts threads up about good tip this good tip that. & vidoes off things that were done years ago.
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it does have to do with a window cleaning business or I would not ask,
thanks for your answer anyway.
If I bore you, simply dont read my posts mate i'm not forcing you too.
I will carry on asking things that interest me & hopefully others too, help where I can, and learn from others where i can't.
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not a clue wtf you are on about. no doubt it will be another lot of bull**** what has nothing to do with window cleaning.why dont you funnel your mind into something more interesting. your starting to bore the t**s off me.
Simply don't read them then, this forum is not here for just you..
really
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Yes really
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Yes really
oh sorry i thought it was all for me this forum. :'(
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Yes really
oh sorry i thought it was all for me this forum. :'(
That's ok your forgiven ;D
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Yes really
oh sorry i thought it was all for me this forum. :'(
im going to push you over the edge with me next topic ;D
jokes aside this is an honest question, I do things a little different thats all. I guess you will too in your business, so can understand it will bore you and some people, but at the same time it will interest others.
You have the choice what to read on here, im not reporting that to the mods, but I can see them picking up on that in regards to the language you used, I dont have a problem with it, but others will. At least you answered the question for me ;)
So back to the original question on this topic:
Who uses a sales funnel in thier window cleaning business ?
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Ian what is a sales funnel?
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Just googled it.
No i dont.
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Ian what is a sales funnel?
its a tool used in business to help obtain sales goals
In my English: it can help you get as much money as possible from each lead and or customer all of which can be monitored and adapted to increase conversions from prospect to paying customer
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Ian what is a sales funnel?
I assumed it was when someone couldn't decide whether to go on a sailing ship or a steam ship.
you on a wind up today Paul :)
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Ian what is a sales funnel?
It's a fancy word for someone to use when they have exhausted all other business growth avenues & still can't naturally acquire any more! ;)
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Window cleaning is the most simple business concept really. No more complicated than the oldest profession. Whatever the motives, some pople really like to "big up" the business acumen involved in window cleaning.
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Does anyone want to enter a Lee Burbridge soundalike competition?
;D
I was just going to type something similar.
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Hey Guys,
Do you have an automated sales funnels in your window cleaning business ?
or if not, do you know what they are ?
"Please vote on the poll"
One last thing if you said no, do you think it would work, if you dont why is this ?
I'm struggling with my automated sales funnel. I'm suffering from funnel leakage wherby my leads are not entering the sales cycle. I am however addressing the issue, but still struggling with it. Do you have any ideas for plugging these leaks?
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I am pleased there is a bigger nut than me on this form suddenly I don`t feel alone. ;D ;D ;D
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sales funnel my ars e .... posh words for some old duffer stuffing leaflets thru letterboxes and then someone young and good looking doing some door knocking. (yes thats me)
or if you want to get really with it someone bashing the phones for commercials
pipelines / funells = b******s speak
canvassers / leafleters = real word speak
jusy my thoughts on the subject
i agree with you
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sales funnel my ars e .... posh words for some old duffer stuffing leaflets thru letterboxes and then someone young and good looking doing some door knocking. (yes thats me)
or if you want to get really with it someone bashing the phones for commercials
pipelines / funells = b******s speak
canvassers / leafleters = real word speak
jusy my thoughts on the subject
Top post. I have been searching for ages on google like a sad case researching what it is.
Over complicating my small mind here.
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Don't leave that up - you'll be gone :o
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how to over complicate an easy task with big words (normally an outside bod at a huge fee in my former career)
gurus, advisors, sales trainers, special advisors etc etc all full of overcomplicated hype
:o
when i was a scaffolder years ago going i went for a bank loan and i was asked what i did for a job so i told them i was a high altitude tubular engineer they just stared at me blank and wrote that down on the form.
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how to over complicate an easy task with big words (normally an outside bod at a huge fee in my former career)
gurus, advisors, sales trainers, special advisors etc etc all full of overcomplicated hype
:o
f ucking hell youve got me going now need to calm down
4 f uck sakes its only window cleaning !!!!!!!!!!
;D well funny
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sales funnel my ars e .... posh words for some old duffer stuffing leaflets thru letterboxes and then someone young and good looking doing some door knocking. (yes thats me)
or if you want to get really with it someone bashing the phones for commercials
pipelines / funells = b******s speak
canvassers / leafleters = real word speak
jusy my thoughts on the subject
Ian, you are so 1970's.
Come on lets think and act like the American's.
I used to quote and clean windows but my funnel has taught me to look at each custard and quote power washing, uvpc cleaning, carpet cleaning, office and general cleaning (assuming they have a business) and finally grass cutting and dog walking.
All down to my funnel, your missing out mate.
So are we happy to park that now?
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Don't leave that up - you'll be gone :o
leave what up ... dunno what you mean ;)
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
Oh right. We where just using ours to push xmas trees as a extra.
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
Oh right. We where just using ours to push xmas trees as a extra.
the database is not out current window cleaning customers just a load of companies ive been collecting data from there website and yell.com etc hotels, care homes, block management companies, contract cleaning companies
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
Oh right. We where just using ours to push xmas trees as a extra.
the database is not out current window cleaning customers just a load of companies ive been collecting data from there website and yell.com etc hotels, care homes, block management companies, contract cleaning companies
Some of our data actually turns out as duff data. Where we collated homes without xmas trees, its turns out they did have them but they where hidden in the loft. Its the accuracy of the data we are struggling with.
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i answered a post on here a few weeks ago,i think it was titled"are you running a business" or something along those lines.
i answered,in my opinion,that a "sole trader is one step up from a job" and"one step down from a business"
window cleaning is a very simple business,yes we have hot water,gutter vacs,etc but in the main its about a service you carry out,you get paid,you earn an income,you pay your tax(debatable?) and for a lot of window cleaners thats as far as it will go,maybe they will have a part timer with them and thats when they it a ceiling and they have to make a choice,stay as they are or push through to the next level
I INCLUDE MYSELF IN THE ABOVE ;D
The next level
Then we have a more business minded window cleaner,richy wilts,richard(i sparkle) lee pryors etc who will build a business,they will employ and grow accordingly,they spend ££££ on leaflets,websites,canvassers etc etc and words like S.W.O.T,SALES FUNNEL etc become their new tools much the same as going from CLX to SLX and thats exactly what it is a tool to be used to help you grow a bit like viagra
i await all criticisms (i think thats how you spell it)
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
Oh right. We where just using ours to push xmas trees as a extra.
the database is not out current window cleaning customers just a load of companies ive been collecting data from there website and yell.com etc hotels, care homes, block management companies, contract cleaning companies
excellent ! phone bashing in other words from hopefully a quality quailified database ........... or some tosser could sell you a packaged process or even better (for them) sell you a training course for mega bucks
said it once and will say it again ........... this business / job aint rocket science
IAN IVE NOT BOUGHT ANY DATA FROM THESE JUST USED THERE FREE SPREADSHEET WHICH IS VERY GOOD FOR UPDATING YOUR LEADS ETC IVE WROTE IT WRONG SYING DATABASE MEANT SPEADSHEET
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
Oh right. We where just using ours to push xmas trees as a extra.
the database is not out current window cleaning customers just a load of companies ive been collecting data from there website and yell.com etc hotels, care homes, block management companies, contract cleaning companies
was you talking to me or the other one ? ;D ???
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ian i have began using a system which this company sent me how to record data etc they have sent over on email a very good database which is semi automatic and breaks down data into hot and cold leads etc i thin its very good
http://newtonfoxtelemarketing.com/free-stuff
ive just sent out over 300 letters and will now beginning next week begin making telephone calls etc and collating more information ie decision makers names, email addresses if they have strong interest or currently have contracts in place
Oh right. We where just using ours to push xmas trees as a extra.
the database is not out current window cleaning customers just a load of companies ive been collecting data from there website and yell.com etc hotels, care homes, block management companies, contract cleaning companies
excellent ! phone bashing in other words from hopefully a quality quailified database ........... or some tosser could sell you a packaged process or even better (for them) sell you a training course for mega bucks
said it once and will say it again ........... this business / job aint rocket science
IAN IVE NOT BOUGHT ANY DATA FROM THESE JUST USED THERE FREE SPREADSHEET WHICH IS VERY GOOD FOR UPDATING YOUR LEADS ETC IVE WROTE IT WRONG SYING DATABASE MEANT SPEADSHEET
yup sussed that didnt think u had bought it was just saying there are people out there that will try and sell you a system / process for something u can do yourself and you have done it already. :)
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i answered a post on here a few weeks ago,i think it was titled"are you running a business" or something along those lines.
i answered,in my opinion,that a "sole trader is one step up from a job" and"one step down from a business"
window cleaning is a very simple business,yes we have hot water,gutter vacs,etc but in the main its about a service you carry out,you get paid,you earn an income,you pay your tax(debatable?) and for a lot of window cleaners thats as far as it will go,maybe they will have a part timer with them and thats when they it a ceiling and they have to make a choice,stay as they are or push through to the next level
I INCLUDE MYSELF IN THE ABOVE ;D
The next level
Then we have a more business minded window cleaner,richy wilts,richard(i sparkle) lee pryors etc who will build a business,they will employ and grow accordingly,they spend ££££ on leaflets,websites,canvassers etc etc and words like S.W.O.T,SALES FUNNEL etc become their new tools much the same as going from CLX to SLX and thats exactly what it is a tool to be used to help you grow a bit like viagra
i await all criticisms (i think thats how you spell it)
fair post that bobby i agree with it good post
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richy now read the post about window cleaners not talking to you :-*
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the only sales funnel i have is my sparkling smile and cheery disposition :)
i do wonder sometimes if im leaving any money on the table ;D
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Dude! why not fungibly customize enterprise-wide niche markets?
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the only sales funnel i have is my sparkling smile and cheery disposition :)
i do wonder sometimes if im leaving any money on the table ;D
;D
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Dude! why not fungibly customize enterprise-wide niche markets?
Isn't that what we all do every day?
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I'll explain........ it's a bit like dynamically incentivize focused information - simples.
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fungibly customize enterprise-wide niche markets?
I just googled the above and clicked on the images tab, this is what I got, tediously boring graphs, or are they ladders? Maybe theyre ladders, perhaps we should be going back to trad.
http://alturl.com/io85y
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sales funnel my arse
+1
dont you mean when you run out of work ring customers that are due to see if they want their gutters/fascias/jet washing etc doing. I think we all do this dont we? Why try and glamourize it? Why not put all the effort in creating this business speak nonsense into real bread and butter work ??? ???
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what do you mean by automated sales funnel? and can you answer with a really clear description of what you mean and what it would look like? otherwise your question is pointless as different people mean different things
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Not really, he means that
The strategic aim is to standardise the infrastructures to drive down operating costs through supply based consolidation and leveraging group spend as well as exploiting best-in-class technologies and practices to provide robust, scalable and agile services with excellent customer experience.
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sales funnel my arse
+1
dont you mean when you run out of work ring customers that are due to see if they want their gutters/fascias/jet washing etc doing. I think we all do this dont we? Why try and glamourize it? Why not put all the effort in creating this business speak nonsense into real bread and butter work ??? ???
I just hope that there's no-one with the surname Sales reading this. Might get the wrong idea about you ;D
Very funny. Not without a trategically placed comma.
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what do you mean by automated sales funnel? and can you answer with a really clear description of what you mean and what it would look like? otherwise your question is pointless as different people mean different things
Hi Richard will try to make it clear, I understand im not to great at that right now
Quick example :
person A buys your service, you email to say thank you, explaining what they will expect etc and maybe you offer them straight away a discount that can be used on another services on the first clean (an upsell of sorts), 6 months later its summer you automaticly send an email out for a convservatory roof clean discount/or offer, again 6 months later email for gutter cleaning this can go on and on and get very complex or easy as you want
By automated you put them in the funnel at the top (which is the start) so they are in that sales process without you having to do anything apart from booking in the work if they want it. you could automate that aswell but I will stay on this topic.
Thats one for customer, this could be done for prospects too.
I am a little taken back by some of the replies but not overly shocked.
Hope that answers your question
Yes it is just window cleaning but it is a business.
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what do you mean by automated sales funnel? and can you answer with a really clear description of what you mean and what it would look like? otherwise your question is pointless as different people mean different things
Hi Richard will try to make it clear, I understand im not to great at that right now
Quick example :
person A buys your service, you email to say thank you, explaining what they will expect etc and maybe you offer them straight away a discount that can be used on another services on the first clean (an upsell of sorts), 6 months later its summer you automaticly send an email out for a convservatory roof clean discount/or offer, again 6 months later email for gutter cleaning this can go on and on and get very complex or easy as you want
By automated you put them in the funnel at the top (which is the start) so they are in that sales process without you having to do anything apart from booking in the work if they want it. you could automate that aswell but I will stay on this topic.
Thats one for customer, this could be done for prospects too.
I am a little taken back by some of the replies but not overly shocked.
Hope that answers your question
Yes it is just window cleaning but it is a business.
Thank you.
If that had have been put in the opening post it would have been clearer and attracted a different sort of miss take ;D
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thanks Ian.
I;ve got an auto funnel for my domestic cleaning business then, but not an automated one for my WC business yet. part of the problem (other than time) is that WCPro wont schedule this type of marketing activity. we use ACT for my other company and this you can add activity series whcih you customise to make your funnel. it could of course be more automated (at the moment the member of staff runs it and sends out whatever the ACT tells them to do). I;d like to have an autoresponder on my website and then have a series of emails that could be sent out over time... but not done that yet...
i'm not keen to have 2 databases for my WC business (i.e. WCPRo and ACT) so am a little stuck at that barrier right now!
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By automated you put them in the funnel at the top (which is the start)
So if thats automated whats non-automated?
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haha , Sorry Paul but it took a while to get that , but i dont want mr sales anywhere near my arse , or anyone if the truth be known, a good funnel though is always useful.
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So if thats automated whats non-automated?
work it out Matt ;)
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Well, Im lost to be honest. Cant you help out?
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Well, Im lost to be honest. Cant you help out?
Matt I dont think for a second think your lost on this at all. But just incase I am wrong, a non automated funnel would mean you have to do every step of the process yourself
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
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Well, Im lost to be honest. Cant you help out?
Matt I dont think for a second think your lost on this at all. But just incase I am wrong, a non automated funnel would mean you have to do every step of the process yourself
Right, I figured as much, so what therefore is automated? A piece of software on a pc where you load customers details, 6 months later it spews out a reminder for you to call your customer to remind them they need their gutter cleaning as well as their windows before christmas?
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
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Well, Im lost to be honest. Cant you help out?
Matt I dont think for a second think your lost on this at all. But just incase I am wrong, a non automated funnel would mean you have to do every step of the process yourself
Right, I figured as much, so what therefore is automated? A piece of software on a pc where you load customers details, 6 months later it spews out a reminder for you to call your customer to remind them they need their gutter cleaning as well as their windows before christmas?
it could be a pc software or a server based program for emails, you could have a calling one I guess, automated would be via email set and forget process, or tweak and make better as it can be monitored depends on what you wanted from it
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
Ian,
Do you have an autoresponder that you can pop email addresses into and it will send out emails at set intervals? My web designer doesnt know of one (which suprises me)
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
Ian,
Do you have an autoresponder that you can pop email addresses into and it will send out emails at set intervals? My web designer doesnt know of one (which suprises me)
yes I do richard
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
Ian,
Do you have an autoresponder that you can pop email addresses into and it will send out emails at set intervals? My web designer doesnt know of one (which suprises me)
yes I do richard
great!!!!!!!!!!!!
wotzitcalled?
can you send a link?
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
Ian,
Do you have an autoresponder that you can pop email addresses into and it will send out emails at set intervals? My web designer doesnt know of one (which suprises me)
yes I do richard
great!!!!!!!!!!!!
wotzitcalled?
can you send a link?
of course please email me design@windowwashers.co.uk
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
Ian,
Do you have an autoresponder that you can pop email addresses into and it will send out emails at set intervals? My web designer doesnt know of one (which suprises me)
yes I do richard
great!!!!!!!!!!!!
wotzitcalled?
can you send a link?
of course please email me design@windowwashers.co.uk
you've got mail!
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Does Constant Contact do that? I know you can schedule emails with it as I used to do that.
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After reading various threads on here about marketing ect, i thought i would do a search on Internet Marketing on google and YT, and found this. Is this our Ian Wicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7G1wLJUhA
;D ;D ;D ;D
Bill & Ben !! ;D
I'm Bill ;D that video makes me laugh everytime I watch it, anyone else ever spoke on a video before ? its not as easy as it looks
Ian,
Do you have an autoresponder that you can pop email addresses into and it will send out emails at set intervals? My web designer doesnt know of one (which suprises me)
yes I do richard
great!!!!!!!!!!!!
wotzitcalled?
can you send a link?
of course please email me design@windowwashers.co.uk
you've got mail!
As do you ;)
Steve, yes it does similar
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Awebber is probably one of the best list builder and email tools, should anyone be interested in that type of thing.
Cheers,
Huw
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Awebber is probably one of the best list builder and email tools, should anyone be interested in that type of thing.
Cheers,
Huw
i agree huw, not seen you on here for a while
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Ok I'm gonna bite ... Why didn't you just post with a title along lines of “hey here's an idea send out automated emails” instead of do you have a sales funnel.
Maybe I'm suspicious but get feeling that you will be pitching to members on here with a service or training course that will be based om your market research you've been doing on here recently.
If your giving your ideas away for free then great I will apologise now but I rekon some straight talking from you instead of the ambigious questions will see a better reception to your posts.
More importanly, how was the chips, egg and beans?
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They were luvly !!
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They were luvly !!
Good :).
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I suggested to Mrs 101 that she may like to automate the process of cooking my dinner every night and I would give her my funnel to help with process.
I'm currently waiting in the A and E of our local NHS walk in and casket out establishment to have the funnel removed from my a rse.
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I suggested to Mrs 101 that she may like to automate the process of cooking my dinner every night and I would give her my funnel to help with process.
I'm currently waiting in the A and E of our local NHS walk in and casket out establishment to have the funnel removed from my a rse.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I've jumped from page 1 to page 5.
Sales funnel?
What type of ludicrous and pathetic sales jargon is that?
How about plain English and a heading for the topic that says what it is and not some type of fancy mean nothing type of lip speak waffle.
Sorry to sound rude but I go off the deep end with that type of garbage language.
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i answered a post on here a few weeks ago,i think it was titled"are you running a business" or something along those lines.
i answered,in my opinion,that a "sole trader is one step up from a job" and"one step down from a business"
window cleaning is a very simple business,yes we have hot water,gutter vacs,etc but in the main its about a service you carry out,you get paid,you earn an income,you pay your tax(debatable?) and for a lot of window cleaners thats as far as it will go,maybe they will have a part timer with them and thats when they it a ceiling and they have to make a choice,stay as they are or push through to the next level
I INCLUDE MYSELF IN THE ABOVE ;D
The next level
Then we have a more business minded window cleaner,richy wilts,richard(i sparkle) lee pryors etc who will build a business,they will employ and grow accordingly,they spend ££££ on leaflets,websites,canvassers etc etc and words like S.W.O.T,SALES FUNNEL etc become their new tools much the same as going from CLX to SLX and thats exactly what it is a tool to be used to help you grow a bit like viagra
i await all criticisms (i think thats how you spell it)
Very well summed up mate, spot on.
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I guess its for those who like to call themselves something that theyre not.
Vision technician and all that. Have to say I agree with Ross.
Personally I think Ian knew full well where the thread was likely to be going when he started, there is an option for 'Dont know what youre talking about'. In other words, this is likely to be over most peoples heads and I know it. I guess it would have been fine on a different forum, but considering most of us are likely to say it as we see it; maybe thats the nature of the beast; and this kind of stuff doesn't generally cut much ice with folks on here someone was going to come out with how it is eventually.
Perhaps Ian would like to nominate himself here and learn from his mistakes.
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk
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For me window cleaning is a relatiely cheap and quite profitable business.
So why make it complicated, if you have more time get more window cleaning customers.
Not carpet cleaning, patio cleaning, guttercleaning.
I've already got the equipment to clean windows, yes maybe my customers would like their carpets or patio cleaned.
But I don't want to be a dog chasing two rabbits.
Just my thoughts.
I only real add on i do is connie roof cleaning, or very rarely facia cleaning, already got the gear for that.
Sales Funnel ;D
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For me window cleaning is a relatiely cheap and quite profitable business.
So why make it complicated, if you have more time get more window cleaning customers.
Not carpet cleaning, patio cleaning, guttercleaning.
I've already got the equipment to clean windows, yes maybe my customers would like their carpets or patio cleaned.
But I don't want to be a dog chasing two rabbits.
Just my thoughts.
I only real add on i do is connie roof cleaning, or very rarely facia cleaning, already got the gear for that.
Sales Funnel ;D
Its whatever is best for your business isnt it.
To a point I agreed with you, but recently I am spending a lot of money on expanding my business and am at the point where I will very soon need to start paying VAT. All that expanding is expensive, and when VAT kicks in (at the same time when i need a new full timer) I will take a massive drop in earnings... until i can expand beyond it.
if you want to runa simple business with a great life style... window cleaning can offer you that
if you want to run a bigger business where you are office based and with limitless (ish) expansion possiblities, window cleaning can offer you that also.
So long as you know what you are aiming for, you can build your business to suit yourself
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I can only assume from your vote choices Ian that you are looking to assess how switched on 'window cleaners' are, generally, to the sales and marketing side of their business?
I haven't found a need for an automated system yet as our window cleaning business is a little young and we're not even close to geographic saturation. Naturally I have all the canvassing data and I operate an old style 'call cycle' but we're not at a point where I need to put it in place.
Is there an automated system you recommend?
'Sales funnel' is standard terminology in the sales and marketing industry, there really isn't anything "complicated" about it. The window cleaning industry also has terminologies that a layperson might consider complicated... but hey, that's why we have a forum right? So we can share our experiences and ideas to help improve what we do and increase our profitability?
Duncan
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Personally I think Ian knew full well where the thread was likely to be going when he started, there is an option for 'Dont know what youre talking about'.
;D
that would not have got the response ian wanted though
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I can only assume from your vote choices Ian that you are looking to assess how switched on 'window cleaners' are, generally, to the sales and marketing side of their business?
I haven't found a need for an automated system yet as our window cleaning business is a little young and we're not even close to geographic saturation. Naturally I have all the canvassing data and I operate an old style 'call cycle' but we're not at a point where I need to put it in place.
Is there an automated system you recommend?
'Sales funnel' is standard terminology in the sales and marketing industry, there really isn't anything "complicated" about it. The window cleaning industry also has terminologies that a layperson might consider complicated... but hey, that's why we have a forum right? So we can share our experiences and ideas to help improve what we do and increase our profitability?
Duncan
So why didn't he write that straight off?
I guess he must have had a reason for this game playing.
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I can only assume from your vote choices Ian that you are looking to assess how switched on 'window cleaners' are, generally, to the sales and marketing side of their business?
I haven't found a need for an automated system yet as our window cleaning business is a little young and we're not even close to geographic saturation. Naturally I have all the canvassing data and I operate an old style 'call cycle' but we're not at a point where I need to put it in place.
Is there an automated system you recommend?
'Sales funnel' is standard terminology in the sales and marketing industry, there really isn't anything "complicated" about it. The window cleaning industry also has terminologies that a layperson might consider complicated... but hey, that's why we have a forum right? So we can share our experiences and ideas to help improve what we do and increase our profitability?
Duncan
So why didn't he write that straight off?
I guess he must have had a reason for this game playing.
Straight forward answer I didn't think I needed to Ross that's why!
I thought most people would know what it is I wanted to know how many used one (my error ) I did add the third option to cover that just incase ( not like matt tried to make out) of course I expected some flack thats path of the course of ciu when i post, yea sometimes I do post sometimes to invoke reaction I love banter too like most guys on here this wasn't meant to be one of them times
Posting something other than the weather or just everyday stuff we all get, it would be very boring don't you think?
I like to learn new things I'm not scared to post about them, if I want to know an answer to a question I ask.
One good thing more people now know what a sales funnel is than before this post was made ;D
Out of this post I helped a couple of guys, I learnt many don't use a sales funnel there are a few more people that I like the way they think so will follow their posts more from now. Maybe you didn't get anything out of it maybe others did.
Enjoy your weekend :)
Ian
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Straight forward answer I didn't think I needed to Ross that's why!
I thought most people would know what it is I wanted to know how many used one (my error ) I did add the third option to cover that just incase ( not like matt tried to make out) of course I expected some flack thats path of the course of ciu when i post, yea sometimes I do post sometimes to invoke reaction I love banter too like most guys on here this wasn't meant to be one of them times
Posting something other than the weather or just everyday stuff we all get, it would be very boring don't you think?
I like to learn new things I'm not scared to post about them, if I want to know an answer to a question I ask.
One good thing more people now know what a sales funnel is than before this post was made ;D
Out of this post I helped a couple of guys, I learnt many don't use a sales funnel there are a few more people that I like the way they think so will follow their posts more from now. Maybe you didn't get anything out of it maybe others did.
Enjoy your weekend :)
Ian
No, I personally didn't get a thing out of either the question or the replies but I have to admit, I like your answer.
Fair play to you mate.
Have a good weekend as well.
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Straight forward answer I didn't think I needed to Ross that's why!
I thought most people would know what it is I wanted to know how many used one (my error ) I did add the third option to cover that just incase ( not like matt tried to make out) of course I expected some flack thats path of the course of ciu when i post, yea sometimes I do post sometimes to invoke reaction I love banter too like most guys on here this wasn't meant to be one of them times
Posting something other than the weather or just everyday stuff we all get, it would be very boring don't you think?
I like to learn new things I'm not scared to post about them, if I want to know an answer to a question I ask.
One good thing more people now know what a sales funnel is than before this post was made ;D
Out of this post I helped a couple of guys, I learnt many don't use a sales funnel there are a few more people that I like the way they think so will follow their posts more from now. Maybe you didn't get anything out of it maybe others did.
Enjoy your weekend :)
Ian
No, I personally didn't get a thing out of either the question or the replies but I have to admit, I like your answer.
Fair play to you mate.
Have a good weekend as well.
right ross this my answer to yours or someone elses question, feck knows I have had a few,
but this is my taking on it all, if you run a business that rely's on extra work then get a funnel, but if you just fill your round to the gunnels with window cleaning as window cleaners should do, then there is no need :-\ i have someone nipping my my head for a car port cleaning job right now I don't want and I am buggered if I want to encourage more of the same, I just want to clean my existing customers by christmas and be done with it
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Iam Wicks these types of questions with a long coming answers do not do well on this forum. Answer your question while you are still popular.You don`t need to mess this forum around they have their customer to do that. Come on speak up. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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but this is my taking on it all, if you run a business that rely's on extra work then get a funnel, but if you just fill your round to the gunnels with window cleaning as window cleaners should do, then there is no need :-\ i have someone nipping my my head for a car port cleaning job right now I don't want and I am buggered if I want to encourage more of the same, I just want to clean my existing customers by christmas and be done with it
Good point Stu. More customers is normally the solution to most problems.
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right ross this my answer to yours or someone elses question, feck knows I have had a few,
but this is my taking on it all, if you run a business that rely's on extra work then get a funnel, but if you just fill your round to the gunnels with window cleaning as window cleaners should do, then there is no need :-\ i have someone nipping my my head for a car port cleaning job right now I don't want and I am buggered if I want to encourage more of the same, I just want to clean my existing customers by christmas and be done with it
Ah... I get it.
You mean I need to be selective about what work I take on, if at all, rather than just say yes to anything.
But I do that already and after a few years experience, probably most window cleaner on here do also.
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You're just not hip with the new sayings I'm afraid. It's nothing new it's sales gobbledegook wrapped up in stupid names. A bit like NVQ's really. Common sense made to sound fantastic.
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You're just not hip with the new sayings I'm afraid. It's nothing new it's sales gobbledegook wrapped up in stupid names. A bit like NVQ's really. Common sense made to sound fantastic.
I like that word, and I'm going to use it more often in conversation. 8)
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;D Only geeks stuck in the 90s still go for dot-com logistical resources.
Forward-looking companies invest in millennial reciprocal hardware.
You really can't fail with 'Outside the box' policy hardware.
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This is my take on it, one word- "bollox" there you go, simple! ;D
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You're just not hip with the new sayings I'm afraid. It's nothing new it's sales gobbledegook wrapped up in stupid names. A bit like NVQ's really. Common sense made to sound fantastic.
lol Dave
Hip now your showing your age, not heard that saying for a long time, i wasnt trying to wrap anything up its a saying at all.
But as I said before at least some people will now have learnt what it means like it or not.
As again you've mentioned nvq , it seems only the people that do not have one that seem to try and belittle them at every opportunity , I guess you don't understand the point thats all. Apart from by law I have to train my staff it's a great marketing tool. I'm glad your starting to see them as sounding fantastic ;D
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Apart from by law I have to train my staff
Is that the same Law that says we need to cordon a house of to clean windows ?
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Apart from by law I have to train my staff
Is that the same Law that says we need to cordon a house of to clean windows ?
i never said that mate
But good morning to you fella ;)
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Apart from by law I have to train my staff
Is that the same Law that says we need to cordon a house of to clean windows ?
i never said that mate
But good morning to you fella ;)
Good morning
You did imply that its law that you have to send them on a NVQ though
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Apart from by law I have to train my staff
Is that the same Law that says we need to cordon a house of to clean windows ?
i never said that mate
But good morning to you fella ;)
Good morning
You did imply that its law that you have to send them on a NVQ though
Trained James that is in law, I never said they have to go on NVQ but it does show you the laws that we have to follow, I didn't know this until I went on it
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You're just not hip with the new sayings I'm afraid. It's nothing new it's sales gobbledegook wrapped up in stupid names. A bit like NVQ's really. Common sense made to sound fantastic.
lol Dave
Hip now your showing your age, not heard that saying for a long time, i wasnt trying to wrap anything up its a saying at all.
But as I said before at least some people will now have learnt what it means like it or not.
As again you've mentioned nvq , it seems only the people that do not have one that seem to try and belittle them at every opportunity , I guess you don't understand the point thats all. Apart from by law I have to train my staff it's a great marketing tool. I'm glad your starting to see them as sounding fantastic ;D
If it WAS such a great marketing tool Ian, AND you are this here expert in social media business enterprise, AND you're such a great "online money maker" AND top business man- then surely that begs the question- WTF are you doing here!? ;D ;D ;D
Oh, I looked up your "head office" too! ;D
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You're just not hip with the new sayings I'm afraid. It's nothing new it's sales gobbledegook wrapped up in stupid names. A bit like NVQ's really. Common sense made to sound fantastic.
lol Dave
Hip now your showing your age, not heard that saying for a long time, i wasnt trying to wrap anything up its a saying at all.
But as I said before at least some people will now have learnt what it means like it or not.
As again you've mentioned nvq , it seems only the people that do not have one that seem to try and belittle them at every opportunity , I guess you don't understand the point thats all. Apart from by law I have to train my staff it's a great marketing tool. I'm glad your starting to see them as sounding fantastic ;D
If it WAS such a great marketing tool Ian, AND you are this here expert in social media business enterprise, AND you're such a great "online money maker" AND top business man- then surely that begs the question- WTF are you doing here!? ;D ;D ;D
Oh, I looked up your "head office" too! ;D
i never said I was an expert or a top business man, do I like to try different things yes I do, I'm glad you spend your time looking at me online but it is rather sad don't you think.
What am I doing here, I own a window cleaning company I like speaking to other people about window cleaning ( which my wife thinks is sad)
All this hate on a Saturday morning, James is stating to be nice why don't you try it some time
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http://www.steamfeed.com/nice-guys-finish-first-in-social-media/
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http://www.steamfeed.com/nice-guys-finish-first-in-social-media/
Very true Dave I'm glad your getting into it
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Can someone actually show me a cleaning firm, who has profited by Social media, i dont mean a couple of jobs, but enough to be worth the time and effort ?
If not, is there any point, because if it could happen then i honestly think a window cleaner would of come forwards by now, there are some very clever people on this forum, they get into everything where theres money involved, surely it would have happened by now
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You're just not hip with the new sayings I'm afraid. It's nothing new it's sales gobbledegook wrapped up in stupid names. A bit like NVQ's really. Common sense made to sound fantastic.
lol Dave
Hip now your showing your age, not heard that saying for a long time, i wasnt trying to wrap anything up its a saying at all.
But as I said before at least some people will now have learnt what it means like it or not.
As again you've mentioned nvq , it seems only the people that do not have one that seem to try and belittle them at every opportunity , I guess you don't understand the point thats all. Apart from by law I have to train my staff it's a great marketing tool. I'm glad your starting to see them as sounding fantastic ;D
If it WAS such a great marketing tool Ian, AND you are this here expert in social media business enterprise, AND you're such a great "online money maker" AND top business man- then surely that begs the question- WTF are you doing here!? ;D ;D ;D
Oh, I looked up your "head office" too! ;D
i never said I was an expert or a top business man, do I like to try different things yes I do, I'm glad you spend your time looking at me online but it is rather sad don't you think.
What am I doing here, I own a window cleaning company I like speaking to other people about window cleaning ( which my wife thinks is sad)
All this hate on a Saturday morning, James is stating to be nice why don't you try it some time
It's not about being nice Ian, it's about your "credibility". I would listen to you if I thought you were a credible source of what you spew. However, a little scratch of the surface & your recent exploits on here sends me to believe otherwise. So, I'm not for one minute suggesting you are a bad'un at all, but rather someone who isn't something he would like to be & sees us as the easy choice of a gullible, interactive audience to live out that fantasy. ;)
What I will say, is that you'll have to get out of bed a lot earlier than you do now to capture me! ;D
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Can someone actually show me a cleaning firm, who has profited by Social media, i dont mean a couple of jobs, but enough to be worth the time and effort ?
If not, is there any point, because if it could happen then i honestly think a window cleaner would of come forwards by now, there are some very clever people on this forum, they get into everything where theres money involved, surely it would have happened by now
been reading these posts for a few years now, and followed your attempts on facebook, looks good to me by the way, but I am a window cleaner not a potential customer, the only person that seems to have done well with social media is a member on here who has a slightly different customer base, i.e. he is germany and cleans forces accommodation and it seems to work very well for him, I can think of a couple of others that have done ok from it, mainly using local forums to them but in domestic only.
but no I don't think anyone has made it really big from social media, well not in window cleaning anyway. it does work for other industries
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Winpro I'm not trying to capture you please try to understand that.
I will carry on living in my fantasy world its full of happiness,
Out if interest what are the first 2 letters of the postcode your looking at just want to see which of my houses your looking at.
Bashing my credibility using old outdated details on a totally different business is not really a fair judgement but I can see where your coming from though.
As you now know some things about me outdated as they maybe.
let's see who you are, hiding behind your name of winpro
See I am me this shows credibility as I hide nothing
I do not live in a fantasy world but I do strive to better myself just some don't like it that's all.
So lets see who you are or are you going to carry on hiding something as to me that's not credible. Be nice to put a name to you an know something about you not to pik fault just out of interest
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what a load of b******s
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what a load of ballcocks
is that a yes, no mark :)
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Ian, your head office check's out as an ex council house in need of a grass cut. What is that all about?
This is the address. GREAT BARFORD, MK44
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\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\you should write a book Ian how influence a forum and loose your friends . I one thread. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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mark311069
This is not the first time you have used the same abusive post towards Ian on 2 separate posts,
This looks like a personal vendetta against him.
Please refrain from swearing and being abusive to fellow members of the forum
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Ian, your head office check's out as an ex council house in need of a grass cut. What is that all about?
I used to live there, why do you ask, is where something wrong with ex council houses ?
The grass would be next doors Ronnie there is very little grass there from memory, this photo does show though where I used to make my water :) I then moved into a unit, then to another, now I make water in a unit my back garden in the house i live in which is not this one you so kindly posted.
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This is the address on your website as of today. Perhaps any cheque's posted would go astray?
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Ronnie B
Whats all that about ?
I think you are getting petty at scoring cheap points.
Whats a council house go to do with anything
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This is the address on your website as of today. Perhaps any cheque's posted would go astray?
I still own that house they would not go astry mate, please remove that address, cheers ;)
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This is the address on your website as of today. Perhaps any cheque's posted would go astray?
I still own that house they would not go astry mate, please remove that address, cheers ;)
All Your contact details still lead to that address too inc' your phone number. ;D
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Ronnie B
Whats all that about ?
I think you are getting petty at scoring cheap points.
Whats a council house go to do with anything
It's quite easy to see where I am coming from I would have thought. Ian has a head office, presumably at least one sub office. His head office address on his website is that of the above ex council house. Is this Ian's head office?
That is it really.
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Ronnie B
Whats all that about ?
I think you are getting petty at scoring cheap points.
Whats a council house go to do with anything
It's quite easy to see where I am coming from I would have thought. Ian has a head office, presumably at least one sub office. His head office address on his website is that of the above ex council house. Is this Ian's head office?
That is it really.
Ronnie I put that title because I have many areas on my website that I dont clean in and was trying to avoid calls from other areas (not ideal I know) but saved me phone calls.
Winpro I have no need to lie mate, would you like me to go outside my house and take an upto date photo on my phone and text you it ?
message me my mobile and I will do this right now Your wrong about me once again ::)
*edited I didnt think you would Winpro, shame maybe next time
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Ronnie
I run my business from a back room in a terraced house,
Duncan bannatyne ran his empire from a portakabin in his garden untilk he got to his first £10m
I know another wc who has the tiniest terraced house in bristol who turns over £2m.
I really can't see where you are coming from
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All theses idiots on here slagging off someone for at least trying something a little bit out the ordinary. I think there's some jealousy going on.
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All theses idiots on here slagging off someone for at least trying something a little bit out the ordinary. I think there's some jealousy going on.
If he was really trying to ' try something different ' he might aswel have gone the whole hog and put his main office as No 9 Downing street, living next door to the PM would be something nice to mention
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James is stating to be nice why don't you try it some time
I would just like to point out, I may well be being nice ( r ), this is due to the fact i did not want to see a guy on the ropes being pummeled, you sided with Mr Willis and took a hiding, which was fair enough imho
I will point out posts that i feel are wrong and misleading though, the law about training implied that if you employ you need to send them on a NVQ, this is not the truth, thus my post
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mark311069
This is not the first time you have used the same abusive post towards Ian on 2 separate posts,
This looks like a personal vendetta against him.
Please refrain from swearing and being abusive to fellow members of the forum
sorry boss i say it as i see it if your not happy ban me iam sure my life will not be affected by it.
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and iam not being funny but anybody who uses the words,, Re: Do any of you have an automated sales funnel in your business ? must be rated alongside people selling NVQ in window cleaning courses,
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and iam not being funny but anybody who uses the words,, Re: Do any of you have an automated sales funnel in your business ? must be rated alongside people selling NVQ in window cleaning courses,
why is that ?
I didn't notice if you did have vendetta against me, must have missed it.
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i didnt know i had a vendetta against you either ??? ???
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this site drives me mad and i spend to much time on here so iam off, good luck to you all in whatever you do, bye bye
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this site drives me mad and i spend to much time on here so iam off, good luck to you all in whatever you do, bye bye
Bye... be sure not to come back
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this site drives me mad and i spend to much time on here so iam off, good luck to you all in whatever you do, bye bye
a shame, as you spoke sense
If people who do stand up about items like the NVQ and cordoning off area around a house are hounded out of the forum, this place will be controlled by the advertisers ( we have seen it happen ) and that would be a shame
and iam not being funny but anybody who uses the words,, Re: Do any of you have an automated sales funnel in your business ? must be rated alongside people selling NVQ in window cleaning courses,
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This post really has nothing to do with NVQ James
Some people need to think a little more before expressing there feeling on here.
Most people do not like rules. But they are there for good reason.
Not sure what you meant about advertisers taking over I have been on here years now and have never found this
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Not sure what you meant about advertisers taking over I have been on here years now and have never found this
Really ?
When you buy a banner, you are protected by admin
Look at the recent posts locked and deleted by admin that did not show Impact in a good light
You could not have missed that ?
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Not sure what you meant about advertisers taking over I have been on here years now and have never found this
Really ?
When you buy a banner, you are protected by admin
Look at the recent posts locked and deleted by admin that did not show Impact in a good light
You could not have missed that ?
have you even thought it may have been for another reason James maybe they were protecting the posters or themselves there is three options
You do no the legality of posting something online it has legal liability attached to it.
I don't know what it was as I have nothing to do with any of it
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blimey ian you are controversial ... iv'e met you and you are nice guy... has the green eyed monster taken over on here where you are concerned ??? just an observation
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Ian I did not want a war but I used to ask some questions that got me into trouble as they seemed a bit OTT for our industry and I did not think some would take offence,but this forum has a very diverse group of people and some time I got into trouble with my friends on here.I am sorry but your opening post did sound a highbrow.I don`t think you meant to anything but I feel some would feel and the result is here. Then again I might of got it wrong again.
Tosh were are you mate :this tread should of been locked 6 pages back.
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Ian I did not want a war but I used to ask some questions that got me into trouble as they seemed a bit OTT for our industry and I did not think some would take offence,but this forum has a very diverse group of people and some time I got into trouble with my friends on here.I am sorry but your opening post did sound a highbrow.I don`t think you meant to anything but I feel some would feel and the result is here. Then again I might of got it wrong again.
Tosh were are you mate :this tread should of been locked 6 pages back.
it shows online bullying slumpy nothing more