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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: seamus campbell on April 06, 2012, 11:22:48 pm
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Just a quick question, It takes me a about 25mins to trad an average 7 window and give the 2 doors a rub on an average semi, how quickly is the norm for one man, am i very slow,
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Yes, myself 10 mins.
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10 min me
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wow that is quick, any tips boys that could help me speed up,im normally on pole but have just got a load of trad work now,
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10 mins max for me
idealrob
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25mins per house :o :o :o :o
thats slow ::) ::)
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my guess id 10 mins does not include frame cleaning
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Just a quick question, It takes me a about 25mins to trad an average 7 window and give the 2 doors a rub on an average semi, how quickly is the norm for one man, am i very slow,
hi ya matey if you are charging £10-15 you are on target, for trad work
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Just a quick question, It takes me a about 25mins to trad an average 7 window and give the 2 doors a rub on an average semi, how quickly is the norm for one man, am i very slow,
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25 minutes... am I very slow and give the 2 doors a rub down.
What point are you trying to make?
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10 mins would not be too far off the mark
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10 mins would not be too far off the mark
Nah. 3 minutes more like and I do 45 a day.
Am I slow?
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rosskesave he asking is he slow. If he wanted your daft opinion he would of put only MUGS may reply. If your doing a house 3 minutes then according to your figures your working 3 hours a day or do u spend the other 5 or so hours looking in the mirror at how amazing you are becos i would if i was as brilliant as you.
MUPPET.
replying to your question it takes me 15mins 15 mins to clean an average 3 bed house trad.
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round about 10 mins on a small 3 bedder including frames and doors if all wfp and they are monthly cleans.throw in a chat and a quick coffee and its half an hour!!
you can expect to clean 4-5 houses an hour every hour on very compact work.mind you i can be a bit splash and dash on cheap houses at £6-£8 a pop.
other work i can take my time and clean 3 an hour(non compact)including travel time and earn more!!
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depends what type semi's standard small 3 bedder,i clean frames most that trad dont so can clean quicker, takes me 15 - 20 mins,bay window ones 25 mins i do a good job tho,most trad guys i see are quicker than me but it amazes me how they clean so quick then sometimes i pick there work up and then i see why they are fast- there would be marks on the window like spider poo,or buff marks from scrim,or edge of glass not detailed properly,
i proberly do to good a job at times,its about just doing enough so customers happy though as frames sometimes wont need wiping everytime just keep on top of them
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round about 10 mins on a small 3 bedder including frames and doors if all wfp and they are monthly cleans.throw in a chat and a quick coffee and its half an hour!!
you can expect to clean 4-5 houses an hour every hour on very compact work.mind you i can be a bit splash and dash on cheap houses at £6-£8 a pop.
other work i can take my time and clean 3 an hour(non compact)including travel time and earn more!!
he asking for times for trad tho dazzer
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Just a quick question, It takes me a about 25mins to trad an average 7 window and give the 2 doors a rub on an average semi, how quickly is the norm for one man, am i very slow,
imo its not about speed more about quality and service thou you can deliver both
lets look at Richy wilts post about "letting his employee go" this is the same employee who done £300 in a day a few weeks later and Richy is loosing business because of the sub standard work and getting lots of complaints?
its all about striking a balance and of course how much you need to earn
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Just a quick question, It takes me a about 25mins to trad an average 7 window and give the 2 doors a rub on an average semi, how quickly is the norm for one man, am i very slow,
imo its not about speed more about quality and service thou you can deliver both
lets look at Richy wilts post about "letting his employee go" this is the same employee who done £300 in a day a few weeks later and Richy is loosing business because of the sub standard work and getting lots of complaints?
its all about striking a balance and of course how much you need to earn
good post bob
when trad a 3 bed semi was around 20 mins - with frames cleaned and doors inc. - wfp takes approx 7 mins for the same place.
as quoted above it's not all about speed - regardless of what others may brag about - you will get quicker over time but if not then adjust your prices accordingly - personally i prioritise quality over speed
Darran
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depends what type semi's standard small 3 bedder,i clean frames most that trad dont so can clean quicker, takes me 15 - 20 mins,bay window ones 25 mins i do a good job tho,most trad guys i see are quicker than me but it amazes me how they clean so quick then sometimes i pick there work up and then i see why they are fast- there would be marks on the window like spider poo,or buff marks from scrim,or edge of glass not detailed properly,
best answer yet IMO
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If you clean too quick when customer is in he will think he is paying too much and check all windows, do not try to speed up if you are trad , this is were Ladder Accidents happen. Be comfortable at what you are doing and just think what you would be earning if you worked for some one else. Or working on the minimum wage this is what keeps us in this work. This is one of the highest paid jobs in the country as far as manual work is involved, as long as you roughly earn around £18 + an hour you are doing well IMO. In this job you can catch up this time of year now the light nights are here. You can always try Backpack and waterfed pole for comparison. But at this moment your only outlay is Scrim Washing up liquid and energy.
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trad to clean to the same overall standard as wfp an hour maybe more ;D
only joking girls before you start straining on your leashes ;D
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Don't worry about speed. As with all things this will come with experience. As said previously even if you do only 2 an hour your still earning decent money.
Always put quality over speed. You do this and you should never be short of customers.
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Don't worry about speed. As with all things this will come with experience. As said previously even if you do only 2 an hour your still earning decent money.
Always put quality over speed. You do this and you should never be short of customers.
Like he said. :)
John
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rosskesave he asking is he slow. If he wanted your daft opinion he would of put only MUGS may reply. If your doing a house 3 minutes then according to your figures your working 3 hours a day or do u spend the other 5 or so hours looking in the mirror at how amazing you are becos i would if i was as brilliant as you.
MUPPET.
replying to your question it takes me 15mins 15 mins to clean an average 3 bed house trad.
During todays work I had two 3 bedroom semi's. One was largish and one was smaller both with fairly easy access. I decided to do them trad instead of wfp and time myself.
From pulling up to driving away and going flat out, one took 48 minutes and the other 43 minutes.
Before going over to mainly wfp, I was window cleaning trad style for nearly 10 years. Perhaps the 3 bedroom houses down here are different to other areas as you take 15 minutes.
How about making a video in real time to prove it?
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During todays work I had two 3 bedroom semi's. One was largish and one was smaller both with fairly easy access. I decided to do them trad instead of wfp and time myself.
From pulling up to driving away and going flat out, one took 48 minutes and the other 43 minutes.
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That's around how long it takes me, including frames and doors.
If priced right, it's still good money. I have always preferred quality over quantity. Often leads to new work through word of mouth recommendations and people seeing you take the time to do a thorough job.
John
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I still believe plenty of people on here, as in the past, can't tell the time.
10 minutes, in my opinion is just exageration.
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I still believe plenty of people on here, as in the past, can't tell the time.
10 minutes, in my opinion is just exageration.
If anyone can do it in 10 minutes, fair play to them. I just know that I can't.
John
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25 min in my opinion is a good time for trad.
I am wfp and it takes 25 min some of the semis (i know I am slow :) )
thought some I can do in 10-15 min if rushed and still do a good job, but thats wfp. would take me twice that time to do trad.
who ever says they do it in 10 min trad - would like to see that.
maybe if worked on a timer to prove it, but to do it day to day - come on get real.
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You'd be better off askin how quick can u trad one window IMO I have found it too vaugue a question gna gt too many differant anwers what might be an average size house to one is not to another depends on area you live!. depends on so many factors m8 I clean all frames sills etc trad I have houses I do in 20 min and I have houses similar size that take 40 min hard to reach windows a place to park dirtyness of windows and frames ,gates ,customers all add to time spent as long as you price well don't worry bout time just concentrate on nt falling off your ladder that's more important
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25 minutes... am I very slow and give the 2 doors a rub down.
What point are you trying to make?
Not trying to make a point, was just hoping for a bit of advice, if i was using Wfp as usual i would prob be about 10mins, I charge about £8/9 for these so happy enough with money at moment,
rosskesava as you have difficulty understanding the meaning of my posts i will make the next bit very clear
Your a Pratt!!!! got the point
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Just a quick question, It takes me a about 25mins to trad an average 7 window and give the 2 doors a rub on an average semi, how quickly is the norm for one man, am i very slow,
Well IMO, a basic three bed semi should not take any longer than 20 minutes and can be done in 15. This includes the odd bits of frames where there is dirt and wiping the sills. Some will even go a bit quicker - some slower. I think the important bit is pricing it according to your needs. If you're hitting £30 an hour on the glass, I imagine you are thereabouts - though this can vary by region. Obviously WFP is faster on most jobs but the cost of working WFP is higher too.
Regards,
Kermit ;D
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Not trying to make a point, was just hoping for a bit of advice, if i was using Wfp as usual i would prob be about 10mins, I charge about £8/9 for these so happy enough with money at moment,
rosskesava as you have difficulty understanding the meaning of my posts i will make the next bit very clear
Your a Pratt!!!! got the point
You asked an open ended question like 'how long is a bit of string, is mine too long'?
Was your question is speed and time taken all that matters? You didn't mention price or profit or anything else. You didn't even define a '3 bedroom semi' or what size windows, etc, etc.
'Giving the doors a rub down'? That could mean 5 seconds or 5 minutes.
Do you clean the frames or not?
Or was it not a question at all but a statement of willy waving about how quick?
So not being able to mind read, I asked what is the point you are making as I didn't understand the actual meaning of your question simply because you didn't define one.
So, I'll give an answer to your question that I guarantee is 100% accurate. Is 25 minutes very slow?
Answer = yes and no.
And, 'how quick for an average semi detached house'?
Answer = somewhere between zero seconds and an unknown length of time.
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8 min WFP frames, doors inc
we do it the same speed if customers are in or out, and never get complaints :) :)
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rosskesaca are you saying u clean a house wfp in three minutes properly and yet it takes 48 minutes to clean the same house trad.. .... so wfp does the same job roughly 16 times faster. i thought u were a muppet on your first post but now i can just giggle at you.
MUG
Mod: Please refrain from childish name calling.
*Sigh*
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I still believe plenty of people on here, as in the past, can't tell the time.
10 minutes, in my opinion is just exageration.
a good trad window cleaner can clean seven windows and a door in 10 mins
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rosskesaca are you saying u clean a house wfp in three minutes properly and yet it takes 48 minutes to clean the same house trad.. .... so wfp does the same job roughly 16 times faster. i thought u were a muppet on your first post but now i can just giggle at you.
MUG
That's hardly worth replying to but.....
Obviously, and I must stress 'obviously', the three minutes was in part a joke and in part sarcasm and was not meant as a real time, wfp or not.
As you must be well aware, or not, lots of forum members get into a thing of quoting a faster speed when window cleaning and some of the times given are just cloud cuckoo land. I was simply, or stupidly, just making a bit of a joke mixed with a bit of sarcasm depending of how the person reads it.
Also, what type of psychological boost do you get from name calling?
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Yeah right whatever , Most other's seem to know what i was asking, and i didnt require a 100% accurate answer.
To all others i was thinking that 25mins was a bit slow but even if i could just get 5mins of per house i would probaly be happy enough as long as my quality didnt suffer. ive really only been cleaning trad for a couple of weeks as the vast majority of my work is wfp. im prob being a little to fussy any tips would be appreciated,
Thanks
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What are you raving about?
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Yeah right whatever , Most other's seem to know what i was asking, and i didnt require a 100% accurate answer.
To all others i was thinking that 25mins was a bit slow but even if i could just get 5mins of per house i would probaly be happy enough as long as my quality didnt suffer. ive really only been cleaning trad for a couple of weeks as the vast majority of my work is wfp. im prob being a little to fussy any tips would be appreciated,
Thanks
I'm not worried about whether the majority know what you're asking or what answers the majority give. It's the 'how long is a bit of string' question again. And with regards the answer, lot of porkie pies get told on this forum.
How can anyone give an accurate answer without an accurate question? How do you know what the advice they give is worth a hoot without any detail?
I could have said yes, 25 minutes is too slow but how would that help you? I could have said that is a good time but again, how would that help you decide?
Maybe post a picture of the house in question or the type of house you mean.
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Yeah right whatever , Most other's seem to know what i was asking, and i didnt require a 100% accurate answer.
To all others i was thinking that 25mins was a bit slow but even if i could just get 5mins of per house i would probaly be happy enough as long as my quality didnt suffer. ive really only been cleaning trad for a couple of weeks as the vast majority of my work is wfp. im prob being a little to fussy any tips would be appreciated,
Thanks
I'm not worried about whether the majority know what you're asking or what answers the majority give. It's the 'how long is a bit of string' question again. And with regards the answer, lot of porkie pies get told on this forum.
How can anyone give an accurate answer without an accurate question? How do you know what the advice they give is worth a hoot without any detail?
I could have said yes, 25 minutes is too slow but how would that help you? I could have said that is a good time but again, how would that help you decide?
Maybe post a picture of the house in question or the type of house you mean.
;D ross stop stating the obvious, we all know it is pointless answering these type of questions, and stupid questions they are, we live in wendy houses up here that can be cleaned quickly trad or wfp in short periods of time, down your way a little more time, now stop biting and ignore ;D ;D good man
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;D ross stop stating the obvious, we all know it is pointless answering these type of questions, and stupid questions they are, we live in wendy houses up here that can be cleaned quickly trad or wfp in short periods of time, down your way a little more time, now stop biting and ignore ;D ;D good man
Yup Stu. You're right.
Self inflicted slap on the wrist. :-[
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;D ross stop stating the obvious, we all know it is pointless answering these type of questions, and stupid questions they are, we live in wendy houses up here that can be cleaned quickly trad or wfp in short periods of time, down your way a little more time, now stop biting and ignore ;D ;D good man
Yup Stu. You're right.
Self inflicted slap on the wrist. :-[
you are still a mug though ;D
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Thanks Stu.
I feel better now and a valued member of this community on CIU. ;D
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Thanks Stu.
I feel better now and a valued member of this community on CIU. ;D
;D
I know mate how can you possibly answer any question like this is just daft ;D ya mug
anyway to the OP that was looking for help, post a pic or google street view of an average 3 bed semi and we can answer properly trad or wfp
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So now I'm a 'muppet-mug-mug'. ;D
Carefull, or you'll get moderated.
A picture would help give a good answer though.
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8 min WFP frames, doors inc
we do it the same speed if customers are in or out, and never get complaints :) :)
u slowing down these days then ?? ;) ;D ;D
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8 min WFP frames, doors inc
we do it the same speed if customers are in or out, and never get complaints :) :)
u slowing down these days then ?? ;) ;D ;D
Nope! ;D
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oh so you lied then. you made a mockery of a post for no reason just because your being clever. why not just not reply in the first place if you did not understand but by the way you put a stupid responce you clearly did understand. All the guy wanted to know was if he was being to slow.
Its strange that you completly mock a post then use the moderator to help you out when people take offence. i thought the moderator can see the conversation without the need for you to tell him.
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Who are you referring to to?
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25 minutes... am I very slow and give the 2 doors a rub down.
Rub down and a coat of gloss at 25mins ;) ;)
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oh so you lied then. you made a mockery of a post for no reason just because your being clever. why not just not reply in the first place if you did not understand but by the way you put a stupid responce you clearly did understand. All the guy wanted to know was if he was being to slow.
Its strange that you completly mock a post then use the moderator to help you out when people take offence. i thought the moderator can see the conversation without the need for you to tell him.
I've just realised you must be referring to me.
I've explained myself even though it may not have been well written and I could have worded an earlier post better. It wasn't my intention to sound like I was mocking anyone but if you think I was then that is up to you. If you think I'm a muppet, mug, stupid or anything, then that is also up to you. I do not control your actions and thoughts and like wise, you don't control mine.
I'm a bit surprised that you seem to think you can mind read accurately. If the moderator wants to moderate anyone's postings then that is up to the moderator. You are assuming firstly that I 'used a moderator to help me out' and that secondly, a moderator would do that. I didn't get a moderator to do anything and I didn't complain to one.
As far as I am concerned - 'end of'.
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My 3 bed semis take me 6 minutes from out of van to back in it. £4.50/5.00. I pay tax, NI, I am insured and have a windy license.
Beat that............. I collect cos it makes financial sense and does not take long for me..Simple, so fekin simple.
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My 3 bed semis take me 6 minutes from out of van to back in it. £4.50/5.00. I pay tax, NI, I am insured and have a windy license.
Beat that............. I collect cos it makes financial sense and does not take long for me..Simple, so fekin simple.
ronnie when you collect that 6 mins is no longer true, not as simple if you think about it mate
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Any takers for 5 minutes? ;D
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U cud do it in 5-10min trad easy, just not touching sides wi mop,no detailing, straight up and down. Bad way to lose customers tho!
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My 3 bed semis take me 6 minutes from out of van to back in it. £4.50/5.00. I pay tax, NI, I am insured and have a windy license.
Beat that............. I collect cos it makes financial sense and does not take long for me..Simple, so fekin simple.
ronnie when you collect that 6 mins is no longer true, not as simple if you think about it mate
but if you can get them onto standing orders... life is sweet :)
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If its raining I can do one trad in 30 seconds. I just post a ticket and leave, ifg they complain I just blame it on the weather. ;D ;D
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I still believe plenty of people on here, as in the past, can't tell the time.
10 minutes, in my opinion is just exageration.
a good trad window cleaner can clean seven windows and a door in 10 mins
i think you mean a crap trad cleaner can do all that in 10 mins