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Title: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on March 30, 2012, 03:57:52 pm
Out leafleting in the sun this afternoon with headphones on and as I delivered a leaflet through a letterbox, I was bitten. Quite nasty scrape, lots of blood and went to get a tetanus. Gave the owner a mouthful and to be honest he was clearly quite shocked himself. But the dog is three years old a a snappy little b*****d. The owner swore it had never happened before but I was sure by his body language that he was lying.

I told him that if I didn't hate the police so much I would be tempted to call them (though not sure what they would have done). I got it dressed and a tetanus at the minor injuries unit, but more peed off at losing over an hour of leafleting.
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Post by: Tomboler on March 30, 2012, 04:03:46 pm
sorry to hear that Steve, not that it's any use to you now but push your leaflets through the door with a pencil.
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Post by: Erithwc on March 30, 2012, 04:10:18 pm
Thats why i use 300gsm flyers go through the letter box easy   ;)

Paul
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on March 30, 2012, 04:19:23 pm
The irony is that I ordered 10,000 this morning of the same weight.
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Post by: Helen on March 30, 2012, 04:38:26 pm
Never ever push your fingers through the letterbox.
Don't blame the dog, it was doing it's job :)
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: steveo22 on March 30, 2012, 04:59:08 pm
I was bitten by a dog last year when I posted a flyer through the letterbox, It happens, If you don't want to get bitten, don't go sticking your fingers through their letterbox!! If you came to my house telling me you'd been bitten, I'd probably laugh and tell you to man up!!
 :'(
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Post by: Erithwc on March 30, 2012, 04:59:23 pm
I wouldn't do it as i like dogs but  ;) ;)

It always makes me wonder if your dog is nippy why shouldn't you have a external post box as it could have been a young child  :-\ :-\

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Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: steveo22 on March 30, 2012, 05:08:10 pm
Minor Injuries PMSL  ;D
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Post by: Scrimble on March 30, 2012, 05:20:43 pm
if that happened to me i would be straight round to the police and demand that it be destroyed by a marksman

dangerous dogs are unacceptable and the owner has broken the law allowing that dog to bite you

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Post by: steveo22 on March 30, 2012, 05:27:52 pm
I'm going to be running a Dog Awareness course soon If anyone is interested. Save your fingers from nasty skin removal, A+E can't cope!! Also, victims of Dog crime can see one of our experienced councillors!
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on March 30, 2012, 05:28:46 pm
Minor Injuries PMSL  ;D

Tetanus jab.
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: steveo22 on March 30, 2012, 05:37:15 pm
I don't mean to be funny mate, but seriously?! I got bitten and my finger ped with blood, removed the skin from my knuckle to my nail (Got a nice scar for my efforts) It was hardly a wound for A+E, I've done worse shaving! If a dog is out and about and aggressive or threatening towards you then fair enough, but behind a door, Its want dogs do, defend their territory!!
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on March 30, 2012, 05:40:17 pm
I don't mean to be funny mate, but seriously?! I got bitten and my finger ped with blood, removed the skin from my knuckle to my nail (Got a nice scar for my efforts) It was hardly a wound for A+E, I've done worse shaving! If a dog is out and about and aggressive or threatening towards you then fair enough, but behind a door, Its want dogs do, defend their territory!!

It wasn't a&e. It is a MINOR injuries unit. There's a clue for you in the name of it. It's where you go for MINOR injuries.
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Post by: Ian101 on March 30, 2012, 05:45:13 pm
hows the dog ?  ;)  ;D
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Post by: sparkleglass on March 30, 2012, 05:55:05 pm
you should carry your pole with you at all times... you could of kept the dog at bay 8)
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Post by: MWC on March 30, 2012, 06:24:08 pm
Shouldn't have been trying to take the house keys out of the door  :D

Can't go blaming anyone but yourself, shouldn't be poking through letterboxes.

Hope ur finger heals ok though!  :-[
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: magic moments on March 30, 2012, 06:29:45 pm
if that happened to me i would be straight round to the police and demand that it be destroyed by a marksman

dangerous dogs are unacceptable and the owner has broken the law allowing that dog to bite you

daNgerous dog on its own property ,and I'm sure they asked you for a leaflet,
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Richard iSparkle on March 30, 2012, 06:39:02 pm
I don't mean to be funny mate, but seriously?! I got bitten and my finger ped with blood, removed the skin from my knuckle to my nail (Got a nice scar for my efforts) It was hardly a wound for A+E, I've done worse shaving! If a dog is out and about and aggressive or threatening towards you then fair enough, but behind a door, Its want dogs do, defend their territory!!

you must be really bad at shaving!  :P
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Post by: steveo22 on March 30, 2012, 06:48:50 pm
Out of interest, what dog was it?
Staffie
Bulldog
Rotweiler??
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Post by: MWC on March 30, 2012, 06:50:26 pm
Out of interest, what dog was it?
Staffie
Bulldog
Rotweiler??

Stereotypical much. It was a minature poodle.
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Post by: jk999 on March 30, 2012, 11:41:17 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Mike55 on March 30, 2012, 11:51:30 pm
I have a custie who has a little snapper...used to try and bite my hand when I put my bill through each time.........a while back I thought I would try posting the slip through but holding the letterbox open with my pen.....so I put the slip through.....dog goes for it and bites the pen clean in half  :o
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: bad trippy on March 31, 2012, 12:13:27 am
I was posting leaflets last year, had the very same thing happen except this was a cat!
Fast as lightening, and as sharp as a stanley knife, i really was cut open, blood everywhere, i had to head for home, as the blood was that bad
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Post by: stuart mc on March 31, 2012, 12:26:17 am
real war heroes you lot ;D a cat and a dog ;D game over ;D
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Post by: KS Cleaning on March 31, 2012, 12:36:10 am
Out leafleting in the sun this afternoon with headphones on and as I delivered a leaflet through a letterbox, I was bitten. Quite nasty scrape, lots of blood and went to get a tetanus. Gave the owner a mouthful and to be honest he was clearly quite shocked himself. But the dog is three years old a a snappy little b*****d. The owner swore it had never happened before but I was sure by his body language that he was lying.

I told him that if I didn't hate the police so much I would be tempted to call them (though not sure what they would have done). I got it dressed and a tetanus at the minor injuries unit, but more peed off at losing over an hour of leafleting.

Sorry,you lost me when you said you 'hate' the police,like most people they are tryin to do a job to the best of their ability with in most cases limited resources.
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: richard jagger on March 31, 2012, 04:55:36 am
Owner of such animals have to put a warning sign on the door and take precautions E G. a wire grid one can buy fits on the back of the door.If not they are liable as they have not done enough to protect you. I was bitten the same way dropping a business letter my company wrote a letter to owner ,end of it all I got 500 quid.after all what would the posty have to do?
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Post by: Richard iSparkle on March 31, 2012, 05:30:48 am
happened to me and i reported it to the police.  not to make a fuss, but so that it was recorded.  i think if the dog is biting the owner should be aware and take precautions. 
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Post by: Cliff perkins on March 31, 2012, 08:03:52 am
Hope your ok steve
What was the address just incase i go near it.
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Post by: Mike #1 on March 31, 2012, 09:02:11 am
If you did not have ur headphones on with music blearing you might have heard the snappy little sod on the other side of the door and not got ur fingers bitten . Lesson learned i think .  Mike
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 31, 2012, 09:07:22 am
Minor Injuries PMSL  ;D

Definition of minor injury:  One that happens to someone else.
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 31, 2012, 09:11:19 am
happened to me and i reported it to the police.  not to make a fuss, but so that it was recorded.  i think if the dog is biting the owner should be aware and take precautions. 

I think I will take precautions too.  Next time I go leafletting I will definitely be wearing condoms on my fingers.
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Post by: trevor perry on March 31, 2012, 09:34:47 am
If you did not have ur headphones on with music blearing you might have heard the snappy little sod on the other side of the door and not got ur fingers bitten . Lesson learned i think .  Mike

+1
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on March 31, 2012, 10:06:12 am
If you did not have ur headphones on with music blearing you might have heard the snappy little sod on the other side of the door and not got ur fingers bitten . Lesson learned i think .  Mike

Agreed. Lesson learnt.
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on March 31, 2012, 10:11:08 am
Hope your ok steve
What was the address just incase i go near it.


Heather Drive on Dunston Park. Nothing too serious, and despite comments above, most dogs do not behave in that way. I have a dog and there is no way that I would allow my dog to be tearing at the letter box every time the postman comes. He would eat my dole cheque!
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Post by: Cliff perkins on March 31, 2012, 10:29:33 am
Been around there already must have missed my fingers ;D
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Post by: simonr on March 31, 2012, 10:50:24 am
real war heroes you lot ;D a cat and a dog ;D game over ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Dane on March 31, 2012, 09:51:36 pm
i got bit too a few months ago, had to go for a jab etc etc too. i was ped off for about 20 mins until i had had a little think and like some people have said already the dog was doing its job
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Post by: Johnny B on April 01, 2012, 09:19:22 am
I used to have some customers with dogs who used to run and slam against the door when I was putting a slip through the door.

It was quite a game getting my fingers in and out before the impact.  ;D

John
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on April 01, 2012, 09:23:18 am
i got bit too a few months ago, had to go for a jab etc etc too. i was ped off for about 20 mins until i had had a little think and like some people have said already the dog was doing its job

How is attacking the letterbox its job? During the holidays I take my 9 year old son leafleting with me. Some people really are neanderthal.
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Post by: Tom White on April 01, 2012, 10:15:19 am
i got bit too a few months ago, had to go for a jab etc etc too. i was ped off for about 20 mins until i had had a little think and like some people have said already the dog was doing its job

How is attacking the letterbox its job? During the holidays I take my 9 year old son leafleting with me. Some people really are neanderthal.

It's what dog's do, Steve.  It's the owner's fault, not the dog.  I have a dog, and his job is to sound vicious and make a lot of noise if someone comes to our property; he's our furry burglar alarm.  

I have a porch and the door to the porch is always kept shut; so postman's fingers are safe.

You've just had a bit of a nip from a small dog, now man up and stop whining.   ;D
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on April 01, 2012, 12:03:29 pm
It's what untrained dogs do. My dog doesn't attack the postman or the post.
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Post by: richard jagger on April 01, 2012, 12:04:23 pm
Dogs have bad habits its the owner`s responsibility to change that behaviour. I now use a 10 in piece to correx board to push my leaflet through. I do get mad if dogs charge the door. Its not a dogs job to bite, that type of behaviour is tort or encouraged by the own.Maybe not meant to maybe by the owner.  ITS JUST BAD OWNERS.
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Post by: Tom White on April 01, 2012, 12:12:06 pm
Its not a dogs job to bite,

Where's that written?  I've known dogs in the military trained to protect their handlers for the purposes of crowd control; and they wouldn't have done that by shouting "Go away you nasty people!"; they would've savaged anyone within muzzle range of their handler.

My dog also has written permission from me to savage anyone's ankles who enters our house uninvited.  It's in his terms and conditions of service.
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Post by: Dane on April 01, 2012, 12:13:35 pm
thats what i'm saying the dog didnt asked to be bought by his owners and brought up how it was... there was nobody home when it happened to me so i didnt bother going back to the owners to complain but even if i had then it wouldnt have changed what the owners had decided to teach there dog to be like.

in all fairness i was on there property and sticking my fingers in there letter box so if they had decided to get a dog to stop the post then thats there business... for all i know they could have done it on purpose to stop the postie bringing the bills which doesnt seem like such a bad idea actualy  ;D
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Steve Sed on April 01, 2012, 01:17:30 pm
Dogs have bad habits its the owner`s responsibility to change that behaviour. I now use a 10 in piece to correx board to push my leaflet through. I do get mad if dogs charge the door. Its not a dogs job to bite, that type of behaviour is tort or encouraged by the own.Maybe not meant to maybe by the owner.  ITS JUST BAD OWNERS.

Totally agree.
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Post by: G Griffin on April 01, 2012, 05:18:52 pm
I think the owner should have a sign up, if this kind of thing is likely to happen.
You know, a little sign on the inside of the door, above the letter box saying-
DO NOT BITE WINDOW CLEANERS' FINGERS, IF THEY PUSH A LEAFLET THROUGH THE LETTERBOX.
This will save the dog any confusion and it getting into bad habits.
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Post by: richard jagger on April 02, 2012, 01:09:11 am
Tosh: I was a dog trainer in the Air force  in a war zone  for 2 years in National service in Angola against Terrorist from Cuba,Russia and Angola  . AS you said they were trained to attack is not a natural thing for a dog to bite humans, only if corned will they attack naturally.You need to teach to attack or praise and encourage them to bite. Any dog biting without command is a risk. If your dog bite any one on your property you would be in major poo just read the papers it always there.Dog bites own found guilty.
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Post by: NBwcs on April 02, 2012, 09:20:31 pm
Ive been bitten four times in eight years now, all have been ankle shaggers,small dog syndrome me thinks  >:(
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Post by: Tom White on April 02, 2012, 09:27:28 pm
If your dog bite any one on your property you would be in major poo just read the papers it always there.Dog bites own found guilty.

It'd not be the dog I'd be in the poo for, it'd be the claw hammer I used that would probably get me in the most trouble.
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Post by: stuart mc on April 02, 2012, 09:35:42 pm
most dogs that bite through the letterbox aren't trying to bite you, they are trying to retrieve the mail, and seeing that I have a dog that is born to retrieve it is hardly surprising, I have had a couple of bites but learnt and don't stick my fingers through any more
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Post by: Tom White on April 02, 2012, 09:43:28 pm
Tosh: I was a dog trainer in the Air force  in a war zone  for 2 years in National service in Angola against Terrorist from Cuba,Russia and Angola 

And c'mon, you can't call what happened in Angola a 'war zone'.  I've been involved in bigger Naafi bar punch ups.
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Post by: Tom White on April 02, 2012, 09:45:05 pm
most dogs that bite through the letterbox aren't trying to bite you,

The one that bit me, just prior to playing tug-of-war with my hand and his teeth definitely tried to bite me, and succeeded very well in fact.
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Post by: stuart mc on April 02, 2012, 09:50:52 pm
most dogs that bite through the letterbox aren't trying to bite you,

The one that bit me, just prior to playing tug-of-war with my hand and his teeth definitely tried to bite me, and succeeded very well in fact.

I said most ;D goes with the job as far as I am concerned
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: richard jagger on April 03, 2012, 06:04:59 am
Tosh: Angola was no different for Afghanistan I will tell you one thing If U K defence force had a little chat with the old SA defence force before going in Afghanistan we would not be loosing so many good lads as we are. The vehicles with IDe prevention ability they needed were invented 30 years in Zimbabwe and Angola conflict.These vehicles would deflect out words any explosion believe me South Africa are world leaders in this field.They thing is the U K army is  armed for conventional warfare not insurgency role.You cannot he a gentleman in these type of conflicts. That is why we will never win in Afghanistan will not will the harts and minds of the people.THEY WILL ALWAYS BE LOYAL TO THE OWN.Its in dread in there
culture.The old saying  " you can kill a terrorist but you can kill there beliefs."This is what drives them.
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Post by: stecrossley on April 03, 2012, 09:44:34 am
My brothers dog did the same thing about 2months ago . The guy thought they were in as the car was up the path so was knocking for some time and shouting through the letterbox and when he put his hand in there cavalier puppy jumped up and bit him he went to the police but they did not get involved but he has taken out a private prosecution against them. My brother was adamant he did not want to pay him but his insurance company has told him they are going to pay him anyway regardless of his wishes. It seems because there was no sign up or warning that they had a dog that they are liable
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Post by: Spruce on April 03, 2012, 10:36:26 am
My son's Jack Russell goes ballistic when the post comes through the letter box. She waits for it and as it appears she jumps up at the door and just shreds all and sundry that comes though. If fingers happen to be there then they get the treatment as well. No matter what my son does she still does it. Its as though she becomes a totally different dog - demon possessed. And she loves the post lady; if she's outside she goes up to her wagging what left of her tail and makes a fuss of her. Even if she knows it us at the door a rattle of the letter box drives her nuts.

She ocassionally spends the day with us, so I stick a note up on the door to leave the post in a small wheelie bin we have in front.

My son solved the problem at his home with a plastic bin that balances on a bit of wood in front of the letter box. His letter box isn't in the front door. The first time she tried to attack the post the bin came tumbling down on top of her. She's now scared of that, but she still goes mad when the post lady arrives. She sits on the window sill on the 3rd bedroom which overlooks the front door, so she can see the postlady when she's up the street.

After she's gone, then the dog just goes back downstairs as sleeps in her bed.

If you are posting flyers fold the leaflet in half and use a flat ruler to push it inside. This was a good tip by someone on here.

Spruce
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Post by: trevor perry on April 03, 2012, 11:39:56 am
as a teen i had a mate who used to hide behind the door for the post man when he put the letters through he would bark like a dog and try an grab posties hand, one afternoon when his parents where in the posty returned to complain about the dog and that he had reported the incidents and they may not get their post posted unless they collect at main post department they told him they didnt have a dog and a pretty big argument broke out,my mate never admitted lt was him to his parents but didnt do it again
 
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Post by: G Griffin on April 03, 2012, 01:10:16 pm
as a teen i had a mate who used to hide behind the door for the post man when he put the letters through he would bark like a dog and try an grab posties hand, one afternoon when his parents where in the posty returned to complain about the dog and that he had reported the incidents and they may not get their post posted unless they collect at main post department they told him they didnt have a dog and a pretty big argument broke out,my mate never admitted lt was him to his parents but didnt do it again
 

 ;D Good one, Trevor.
They have telly's, dvd's, Playstations etc. these days but I prefer your mate's idea of fun.
Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Tom White on April 03, 2012, 06:00:13 pm
Tosh: Angola was no different for Afghanistan

I'm just winding, mate; apologies.  I know nothing about Angola, apart from it's north of Barry Island somewhere.

Title: Re: Bitten by a dog.
Post by: Richard Neal on April 30, 2012, 10:12:30 pm
hows the dog ?  ;)  ;D


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