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Title: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: andyatkinson on December 13, 2011, 04:07:08 pm
i have a new clx pole with the yellow pole hose, and the pole hose snapped today, never had that before, is it because its a more plasticy type of hose? more brittle? thanks
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: wfp master on December 13, 2011, 04:12:36 pm
maybe the cold weather making it harder. i use the same but its not snapped.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: niceandclean on December 13, 2011, 04:15:35 pm
i have a new clx pole with the yellow pole hose, and the pole hose snapped today, never had that before, is it because its a more plasticy type of hose? more brittle? thanks

Used to keep getting tiny pin holes and splits in mine, ditched it now and found some old clear stuff i ordered off gardiners years ago, much better imo.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on December 13, 2011, 04:16:55 pm
i notice it gets tangled quite a lot but should not snap like that
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: andyatkinson on December 13, 2011, 04:22:24 pm
thanks, i think thats what it is, it really does tangle and twist up and think its just done this enough times until its snapped
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on December 13, 2011, 04:32:36 pm
had a game with it today had to get the wife standing on the end while i stretched it to it full length. might tape it up with insulation tape to strenghten it a bit.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Klean07 on December 13, 2011, 04:52:41 pm
I've got the same stuff on my slx pole. I've noticed that the colder it is the more stiffer the hose gets, bit of a pain really!!!
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: dd on December 13, 2011, 05:30:28 pm
Have they changed the pole hose recently? I got a clx a month ago (not used it yet) and the pole hose is a deeper shade of yellow than on my older clx.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: andyatkinson on December 13, 2011, 05:34:17 pm
not sure, this stuff is really thick and hard plastic
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: matthewprice on December 13, 2011, 06:11:16 pm
i had the yellow hose on 2 slx poles both burst within 8 weeks,replaced with ionics orange ,but seems hard and twists must have changed from the ionic poles i bough 2 years ago,i now have a slx 35 with the yellow pole hose and because its not used all the time the hose is fine ,better to work with ,really  need a hose that works better ;D
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: woody1 on December 13, 2011, 06:41:33 pm
I just got a new 22 ft clx when ordering it gave me a choice between Normal hose or soft hose i chose the soft its great cant belive how nice as on my 27clx its got the hard stuff and its a real pain in the arse so will be getting in touch with gardiners for some more soft hose
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Window Washers on December 13, 2011, 06:54:22 pm
seems alot of this pole hose that everyone is selling is really not cut out for wfp.

Would love a supplier to look into this and sort out an anti kink pole hose.
B&Q's clear hose is just as good as any of the coloured hose suppliers are selling right now and cheaper.

streamline clear hose from purefreedom seemed less hassle than the coloured stuff
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Dave Willis on December 13, 2011, 07:03:49 pm
I've tried all sorts this year. just put some yellow hose on from Sureclean - best I've used so far.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: simonr on December 13, 2011, 09:04:04 pm
been using a clx 27 with the soft yellow hose all day every day worked since i got it in august & never a problem i think its great
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: andyatkinson on December 13, 2011, 09:44:09 pm
this isnt soft. this is hard plastic
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: DeLuce on December 13, 2011, 09:55:41 pm
I've been using the Gardiner hard pole hose for a year now on my SLX 25 and although it twists up a little more in the cold weather it certainly shouldn't snap   :o. I'd get in touch with Gardiners if I were you, I'm sure they'll sort you out add they take a pride in their products and customer service   ;D
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Richard iSparkle on December 13, 2011, 10:09:35 pm
i;ve had the same problem with all my yellow gardiner hoses.  seems pretty rubbish stuff to be honest.  i replace it before i use a new pole of theirs now.  i do however love my CLX.  brilliant and well priced pole
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on December 13, 2011, 10:13:02 pm
i love gardiners but i couldnt get on with there pole hose everytime i stood on it it stoped the water flow which was very anoying, due to the fact its to soft. now ive got the aquadapter pole hose ive not had any problems

sorry gardiners but its true  ;D
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Pope vader on December 13, 2011, 10:16:20 pm
i know a lot had probs with it as it was very soft,  and a lot loved it becasue it was soft, i think alex gives a choice now on which one to have,  once again he has listen to the people who actually use the stuff, instead of telling us what we should think
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Moderator David@stives on December 13, 2011, 10:49:19 pm
Some of the new pole hose is lethal when doing shop work, all pole hose should lie flat like it used to.

Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Dave Willis on December 13, 2011, 10:57:08 pm
Yep, some of it is utter crap - just leaves coils everywhere and it's not cheap either! Or Gardiners.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on December 13, 2011, 10:58:45 pm
Some of the new pole hose is lethal when doing shop work, all pole hose should lie flat like it used to.



yep you turn round for 2 seconds and there are coils of hose on the floor looking like a barbed wire fence for someone to trip over
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 14, 2011, 04:54:42 pm
had a game with it today had to get the wife standing on the end while i stretched it to it full length. might tape it up with insulation tape to strenghten it a bit.

Keep your private life to yourself please!   ;D
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: matty72 on December 14, 2011, 06:22:50 pm
gardiners pole hose driving me crazy, makes each job longer, a solid mass of hose, stretch it out, 5 mins later back to a solid mass
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on December 14, 2011, 06:55:48 pm
its ashame really the pole is fab but the hose is driving me insane >:(
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Klean07 on December 14, 2011, 07:29:41 pm
Ditto!! >:(
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: andyatkinson on December 14, 2011, 07:41:17 pm
yeah i love the pole, but grrr to hose :) but alex seems like a lovely gent and im sure he will happily send me 400 metres of softer stuff as a christmas gift  ;)
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: ps outthere on December 14, 2011, 07:45:58 pm
I have the same problem with all 4 poles we use. I am thinking of trying the 'soft' hose. Anybody using it?
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: dmlservices on December 16, 2011, 08:29:27 pm
Bought a 30 mtr reel of the soft one , when I bought my slx, first impressions were that it was very flimsy, my normal hose developed a leak today , so replaced with the new soft one , until I could get some normal delivered, and I must say it is great for cold weather use, very little memory,  i use it with an squad apter - no probs, will use as my winter pole hose from now on, and use stiffer hose in the summer.

Daz
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Dave Willis on December 16, 2011, 08:34:27 pm
It is nice hose but goes all rubbery and bursts with hot water.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: dmlservices on December 16, 2011, 08:40:11 pm
I use mine with cold water.

Daz
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Erithwc on December 16, 2011, 08:41:40 pm
aqua dapter pole hose is very nice
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Ian101 on December 16, 2011, 11:49:41 pm
Replaced all my Gardiners house with Pure freedom ribbed pole hose much better stuff
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: mark m on December 17, 2011, 01:21:02 am
Poles great , Hose shiiiiiiiiiit
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Dave Willis on December 17, 2011, 08:34:46 am
Tried Aquadapter - might hang myself with it later.

Some hoses are great for the summer and crap in winter.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: concept on December 17, 2011, 10:39:17 am
Absolutely awful hose.

In warm weather, it's supple enough, a bit too supole though as it pops out of push fit taps, so you have to buy a barbed insert and o ring clamp to ensure a secure fit.

Works fine when warm, if an expensive solution.

In the cold however, we have had 3 barbed inserts snap, leaving a part in the tap, rendering the £10 tap unusable!!! So lose a tap, a barbed fitting, an o ring, and time for equipment repairs.

Not too mention the tangles when its cold, stopping the poles from extending.

Another perfect example of equipment being sold as suitable, when it simply is not.

Absolutely fed up with it.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: LBWCS on December 17, 2011, 12:12:39 pm
So in conclusion then what is the best at the moment? I need to buy some this week for 45ft smax. Was gona go with the yellow but am severlu put off by everybodys comments.Be interesting to see what the weight difference is with reinforced stuff
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Aqua-dapter on December 17, 2011, 05:13:17 pm
Hi concept,

you have to buy a barbed insert and o ring clamp to ensure a secure fit.

...we have had 3 barbed inserts snap, leaving a part in the tap
An alternative to the barbed insert is a tube strengthener that fits inside the end of the hose to prevent the hose coming out of a push-fit connector.


After having a lot of feedback on our hose, and reading about the Gardiner hose with interest, it seems personal preference and expectation of how people want the hose to behave varies greatly.

Gardiners have a range of hoses and I seem to remember reading that they worked to develop the latest hose in response to feedback/demand.

Our priority is to have a low-stretch, durable hose, as this is important for the operation of the Aqua-dapter, but Using PU hose does have some other benefits over PVC though as it is more consistent in hot or cold weather/water.

The vast majority of feedback we get about our hose is positive (published on our blog), but there are also some who really dislike it!

So far we have had yellow, translucent red and opaque orange.  We have been trying to improve with each one, but the comments we hear indicate that we will never be able to please everyone with one type of hose as people value different properties of each, and manage their hose differently.  For example, some like it to coil itself up at the end of the job, others find this too annoying as it means the hose is more likely to tangle.

Paul
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Steve_c on December 17, 2011, 07:49:54 pm
I have the same problem with all 4 poles we use. I am thinking of trying the 'soft' hose. Anybody using it?
Yes the soft is much better, i have it on my SLX and the stiffer yellow hose on my Super max, that can be a bit challenging.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Moderator David@stives on December 17, 2011, 10:00:07 pm
Aquadapter

What about the trip hazard for the public.

 surely this should be a priority above and beyond anything else ?

What do you think ?
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Tom White on December 17, 2011, 10:13:32 pm
aqua dapter pole hose is very nice

Spot on.  So is the old black Ionics pole hose; that's the best IME.

Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: richard jagger on December 17, 2011, 10:27:35 pm
Here is one of the suppliers for all these hoses look and the data sheet for the characteristics of the hose.
Title: Re: gardiners yellow pole hose
Post by: Aqua-dapter on December 17, 2011, 10:40:29 pm
Of course safety is very important.

What I meant about our 'priority' was that we weren't using hose already available so, starting with the basics for any hose, we then needed to make hose that wouldn't stretch and would be as consistent as possible with different temps.

Even though most of the feedback we've had has been good we're still working to improve it.

Paul