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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Londoner on March 25, 2011, 07:08:30 am
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Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.
It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.
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sounds as if you are getting nervy Vince
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sounds as if you are getting nervy Vince
No it happens every year, the only difference is that a few years ago you didn't see full colour leaflets and brand new vans. Like I said though, most disappear again.
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Why do you report them to HMRC?
Andy
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Why do you report them to HMRC?
Andy
because he over charges and is scared of the competition most likely,get a life
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I say fair play to you Vince.
If they're declaring their earnings they have nothing to worry about. If not they deserve everything they get.
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Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.
It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.
Why do you do that?
I think you are well out of order, the blokes are just trying to make a living and you are being a c**t.
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Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.
It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.
Why do you do that?
I think you are well out of order, the blokes are just trying to make a living and you are being a c**t.
so you aint going to say anything when a newbie pulls up and takes your work, ::) ::) ::)we see
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if you arnt ripping the customer off and you do a good job what have you got to worry about,just cuz you see another van or windy in same area as you,you actually think its ok to try get them in trouble,give em a break they just same as you were once trying make ends meet,its basically going back to the "this is my patch stay away"but aint got the bo**ocks tell them yourself so u go tell on them
do you declare your xmas tips i reckon you'll say yes of course i do, if not you want your details passing on to the tax office aswell
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Why do you report them to HMRC?
Andy
wasted window cleaning should have been a copper or traffic warden
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just been doing some second cleans on a few houses i canvassed last month one old dear told me it was lucky i came along when i did as 2 more windies had canvassed her the week after i had cleaned them .... guess the ones that said we will let u know prob went with one of the ones that went knocking after me ... such is life :)
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Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.
It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.
Why do you do that?
I think you are well out of order, the blokes are just trying to make a living and you are being a c**t.
its fine making a living, but there are laws that we all have to abide by. how can we compete with people working illegally? i declare my income and pay tax, and so should any other WCs. if they're all above board they've got nothing to worry about. if they aren't it's their problem.
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Im going to start doing the same.good call m8.too many vans and cars going round my way no signs on a few.
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hi vince ,
luckily i cant afford a new van ! , leaflets currently going out !
aswell as the new vans / wc s , have also seen a few others in old cars that i dont know / recognise .
i have also recently found that some of the gardeners ( mainly brazilian and portugese ) in hatch end and pinner are offering to do their customers windows while they are there.
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Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.
It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.
Trying to get rid of the competition is definatley a market strategy. Usually employed by large corrupt organisations, but i suppose if you're a worried window cleaner its an option !!!!
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"O" dear sounds like one of those mine is bigger than yours situations.
being we are having some nice weather I am out and about with flyer's, did 250 today with 400 aimed for tomorrow and 1000 for next week and most of the time my little girl comes for a walk with me ( helping daddy)
to be honest I get more of a buzz out of seeing my little Lady enjoying helping than if I get a call from a flyer!
when out I always wear my business tops embroidered with company, and carry id card and photo driving license just in case someone asks me to prove who I am. so if anyone wants to send my flyer's to the inland revenue go ahead but I ain't doing there windows if I get a call from one of them unless there local.
its not the guys who have put there money in equipment, insurance and that smart work wear. its the ones in the hoodies that lurk around with kit that looks like its seen better days or would not pass a safety check if using ladders. or my pet hate now seeing them with water tanks tied to old clapped out trailers just waiting to splatter that old Lady at the crossing!
and on to vans, I have two and neither of them are sign written. I don't do it as around here its like putting an invitation card on the vans inviting the druggies and general riff Raff to come and have a look inside. now is this making me any different? if answer NO thank you, if answer YES then hey I'm registered and have accounts and also a couple of filling cabinets full of firkin paperwork from the past umpteen years. so if you really want to be different get your company name tattooed on your arse.
apart from all this everyone has there own opinion and free will and for those legally trying to make a living " good on you and good luck" no mater what you drive or do your work with.
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hi vince ,
luckily i cant afford a new van ! , leaflets currently going out !
aswell as the new vans / wc s , have also seen a few others in old cars that i dont know / recognise .
i have also recently found that some of the gardeners ( mainly brazilian and portugese ) in hatch end and pinner are offering to do their customers windows while they are there.
As an add on, I`ve been offering to do Brazilians for some of my tidier looking female customers.
I don`t care if I get reported. My motto is- hair today, gone tomorrow ;).
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I do believe we need to pay tax, but grass folk no I believe “what goes around comes around" Vince why don’t you phone every fire station they all do windows and have a income as-well. No Mate it’s not good to be a grass. I will beat they with good work and customer service its wins all the time. Because I am a pro I do not fear competition I am better than that, ??? ??? ???
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Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.
I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
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I'm with Vince.
Why all this talk of "grassing"? Why not call it "doing your civic duty?"
Anyone who fiddles their taxes is stealing money off you. You're paying more tax because of people like that. Stuff them. You'd report a burglar to the authorities.
Anyone attacking Vince should ask themselves why they stand with the people breaking the law rather than with all the people who don't.
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PERFECT ADD ON FOR A GARDENER GRIFFIN , A BIT OF BUSH WORK
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I'm with Vince.
Why all this talk of "grassing"? Why not call it "doing your civic duty?"
Anyone who fiddles their taxes is stealing money off you. You're paying more tax because of people like that. Stuff them. You'd report a burglar to the authorities.
Anyone attacking Vince should ask themselves why they stand with the people breaking the law rather than with all the people who don't.
Since when is it your Civic Duty to report people who are going about what may (or may not be) a legitimate business activity? Unless i've missed something they did not appear to be doing aything wrong. If you put that Civic Duty idea of your fully to the test the HMRC would be swamped with work checking everyone willy nilly , i don't believe they have enough staff to do that.
Anyway, you two need to give your heads a wobble. Giving peoples details to the authorities just in case. I hope they bring fines in for time wasters of public services too !!!!
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Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.
I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
Patriotic duty my arse, do 9 years in the service and then say patriotic.
and before painting everyone on benefits with the same brush there are people who are good and want to work among them also. next thing you are going to tell us all you never been out of work?
rule is be hard but fair, if someone is out there breaking the rules then so be it, but if it someone starting out the last thing they need is someone flinging S**t around for them.
so really good to get facts correct about someone before making any calls otherwise if it turns on you and they know the system then there could be an "infringement of privacy" taken against who is making the calls.
did it once someone calling dole, tax office, vat office about me and they slipped up and I found out. £60 later on a brief and a day in small court i got all costs back and they a warning. now overtime I see them they know they cant even fart near me or il have them back there. "O" and a year and a half after the event they went under. somehow it leaked out about them and there deeds
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Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.
I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
What a complete arsehole!!! Nothing worse than a grass!!!!!!!!!! >:(
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Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.
I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
What a complete arsehole!!! Nothing worse than a grass!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Wow, you sound like a bundle of delight. "Nothing worse than a grass?" That's the language of the prison yard. The language of people who think they are better than the law in some way. Pitiful.
So, someone nicking taxes is better than the person who tells HMRC? You need to look at your priorities. Why would you side with the thief?
I think you have hit a nerve....... yes shop them.
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let them get on with it you had to start from scratch when you set up because you are set up and makeing a good liveing out of it you think no1 else should have a go if you do a good job you should have nothing to worry about i have it all the time but i just get on with it at the end of the day good luck to them get a life you grasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.........................
just had 10,000 new flyers made up and will be canvassing all day 2moro if you get one send 1 in to the hmrc ....
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nothing worse than a grass... some sad people on here
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This thread has really got nothing to do with tax not been paid its about some little minded man frightened by a little competition. The tax issue is a smoke screen read the first entry. Chicken
And to Dave is Vince making the bullets and you do the firing them. Don’t be used.
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Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.
I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
Patriotic duty my arse, do 9 years in the service and then say patriotic.
I did my time in the service. have a bullet hole in my leg to show for it. Bogside 1978 just below my right knee. Medical discharge 1979. No award.
so don't tell me about it. And it hurts every day. And its getting worse, been off work twice this year with celulitus in that leg. terrified of it coming back. Check it at least five times a day.
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This thread has really got nothing to do with tax not been paid its about some little minded man frightened by a little competition. The tax issue is a smoke screen read the first entry.
I think you need SPECSAVER or you do read and not understand. ??? ???
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Why do you report them to HMRC?
Andy
why not well done vince good idea;loads seem to work have new vans and cars
and most round here are firemen ;)
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Um, been reading this with interest.
I think this is not really black and white.
Youve got the young chappy on here, on another post trying to do all legit. Off to the jobcentre, going to find out what hes entitled to..........thats cool, fine example of somebody trying to help themselves.
Then
There is the other pot, trouble is though.............. how can anybody have the inside knowledge to know what that person is trying to do, it could be the chappy on here who is trying to be legit, I just dont know, unless you are going to speak directly to them in person, think you kind of have to think things through, best discussing I think. Because on the outface side of things it could look iffy, but the gentleman on here who has posted, hes not trying to do a fast one. Think with regards to human nature best not to jump to conclusions- dont know Im an idiot anyway - just think its prob easier to gather facts etc, just always think "Hang fire" before anybody does anything
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just read the rest of this crap whats with the use of the word grass? ::)
as andy gray says hes just asking the hmrc to have a look
nowt wrong nowt to fear ;)
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Um, been reading this with interest.
I think this is not really black and white.
Youve got the young chappy on here, on another post trying to do all legit. Off to the jobcentre, going to find out what hes entitled to..........thats cool, fine example of somebody trying to help themselves.
Then
There is the other pot, trouble is though.............. how can anybody have the inside knowledge to know what that person is trying to do, it could be the chappy on here who is trying to be legit, I just dont know, unless you are going to speak directly to them in person, think you kind of have to think things through, best discussing I think. Because on the outface side of things it could look iffy, but the gentleman on here who has posted, hes not trying to do a fast one. Think with regards to human nature best not to jump to conclusions- dont know Im an idiot anyway - just think its prob easier to gather facts etc, just always think "Hang fire" before anybody does anything
at last someone who has got the idea!
just because there new don't mean there bent and have a think about it before throwing accusations. don't just go of a flyer's see the people, if they look like they mean business they probably are genuine. if they look somewhat shady then yea give the DHSS and inland revenue a call by all means. and Tony thanks your someone else who has more than one brain cell to use.
and to clear another thing Dave they pay less tax because they are new and only just building there turnover. and hate to spoil it but you only pay the tax you owe based on income. another thing is having someone phone the dole is one thing but to constantly be on to the authorities about me is taking the p**s and we all have our rights to PRIVACY
and Vince you never know you could have seen me then in 82, as we said we bend them you mend them
once upon a time we as humans would have thought nothing about all of this and just got on with our lives. we would have even stopped to talk to the new guy and only then decided if they were straight or not.
but alas modern day living has reverted us back to cave man days, going around peeing on things to mark our territory. i think the modern day thing to this is to have the customers put banners in there windows saying " I'm with him" so when people are out with flyer's they know if they are treading on someones round.
but then is the decision on who gets the work not that of the customer!
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nothing worse than a grass... some sad people on here
funny that. i think a benefit cheat or tax cheat is worse than a grass. clearly you think the other way around.
that says a lot really. ::)
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Gawd I must be old, only thing Im saying is dont take things on face value, nobody knows circumstances, whats going on, background, family life, nowt. A and S makes an ass out of you and me AssumE. love that saying, lol. Life is so different for all of us, think we have to go along with that ride, who knows ey?
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i agree
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don't see a massive problem with what Vince has done, if they are legit then they have nothing to worry about. I wouldn't do it my self but each of us can do what we please, if you take the decision to work illegally and get caught tough, if you don't get caught well done but it will catch up eventually, and if times are hard well you do what you have to do to survive
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yes
I don't agree with working on the side but:
I will openly admit if I knew for it was some guy who just cant make ends meet and is just trying to put some extra food on the table or clothes on his kids backs, or give them a little extra at Xmas by doing 3 or 4 windows a week then I would bite my lip and turn a blind eye, hes taking the risk for need not greed.
its the ones who are doing it and who's second car is some flash thing, has two houses and goes to Florida each year that gets my back up
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yes
I don't agree with working on the side but:
I will openly admit if I knew for it was some guy who just cant make ends meet and is just trying to put some extra food on the table or clothes on his kids backs, or give them a little extra at Xmas by doing 3 or 4 windows a week then I would bite my lip and turn a blind eye, hes taking the risk for need not greed.
its the ones who are doing it and who's second car is some flash thing, has two houses and goes to Florida each year that gets my back up
I don't understand this grass bit. Where do you draw the line. If you had info about who killed that girl last week would you be a grass to go to the police with the info? If not, why not? If I knew who stole my next door neightbours car would I be a grass to tell? Where is the line?
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way i see it,theres no evidence they are fiddlers-its just 2 newbies have leafletted on Vinces turf and they look kitted out properly,a threat perhaps. im surprised hes took the trub to photo them and putting pen to paper to her majesty seems very paranoid behaviour
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if it was about the girl yes id go to them and let them, know
if it was about naibours car then yes, i would hope they would do the same for me.
there is no line, its all about diferent peoples perception. if i was cold hearted then the guy trying to feed his kids I would drop him in it, but in my eyes he is only trying to help his kids. the inocent he is taking the risk not for himself.
the guy with the two houses and big hollidays on the state thats greed
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As I have said I believe all should pay taxes. The problem is Vince has absolutely no proof of o a crime been committed. The only thing he has that newbies have been on his patch and leafleting and new outfits working in his area. We all have to live with new compaction in our areas and we were all newbie as at some stage. By grassing on them to the tax man is trying to use state power to eliminate his competition which intern is wasting our taxes. There is no difference between a small minded windy chasing a new fellow of his patch and what Vince is doing. Vince has not got the guts to face up to new windies in his area and compete with them.
Get the motive rite and you will get the act rite. Sorry Vince live with the can of worms and stop been petty.
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Sorry Vince live with the can of worms and stop been petty.
Thats alright, you don't need to say sorry, but its not just window cleaners is it? Its the whole benefits culture that I object to and it does offend me. Don't go thinking these people work cheap either and undercut, they don't. Its the fact they think they are so clever that makes me want to pull the rug out from under them.
When I was taxi driving it was worse, one guy boasting he had never paid a penny tax in one breath and saying how he was taking his family to Cyprus for a month in the next.
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HMRC, wtf, very sad. Concentrate on your own affairs.
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Vince,
just because you haven't seen them before how do you know that they arn't legit?
and on the other foot how do they know that you are not legit either????????????
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get a life you grasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.........................
Wow, you've hurt me now. Rather a "grass" than a thief any day.
Why? At least there is honour amongst thieves. ;D
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And I thought everyone on here was paying there way!!!! I think vince has got a few worried! Lets all put our trading names on here. Oh sorry some have! some just use nicknames with no area/address on there profile. guess some may be fiddlers!! but i might be wrong! IMO ;) Am i having a go or not? ???
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Yeah right, next you will be sayin all cash through books, bs of the highest order.
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Sorry Vince live with the can of worms and stop been petty.
Thats alright, you don't need to say sorry, but its not just window cleaners is it? Its the whole benefits culture that I object to and it does offend me. Don't go thinking these people work cheap either and undercut, they don't. Its the fact they think they are so clever that makes me want to pull the rug out from under them.
When I was taxi driving it was worse, one guy boasting he had never paid a penny tax in one breath and saying how he was taking his family to Cyprus for a month in the next.
I am pretty sure if he has gone out and spent thousands on a van, system and leaflets he would be on benefits.
The benefit cheats are most likely driving around in a car, with a set of ladders on top and drying their scrims on the car heater lol.
We only have ourselves to blame with the amount of newbies starting up, guys on here bragging and B.S.ing about how much they earn, hmmm £50-£60 per hour sounds extremely good to someone thinking about starting up.
Matt
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I think you are just plain wrong to do this Vince. I'm not going to get judgmental or on my high horse about it because I suppose you have reasons for your views as I do mine.
If you had reasonable cause to suspect that they are on the fiddle then I suppose your actions might be justifiable. Otherwise - not.
What they are doing is no different to you wanting more work and leafletting outside your normal catchment area.
The "nothing to hide so nothing to fear" scenario doesn't wash with me either. IMO it's just not on for the first assumption to be that any business (W/c or not) is on the fiddle because they are dropping leaflets.
Like you I am an honest tax payer. I fiddle nothing. That's not me taking moral high ground though. I very much dislike some of the things that my tax money is spent on. However, I live in a society that will usually sustain someone with food water and shelter if they fall upon hard times through no fault of their own. One day that someone could be me (and has been on a couple of brief occasions). It's unfortunate that so many take advantage of such a system but it's difficult to weed them out without penalising the genuine.
However (again IMO), this has nothing to do with informing on what are probably legitimate businesses for no better reason than they just might be on the fiddle. If the police kept stopping someone on such flimsy grounds there would end up being a complaint for harassment - justifiably.
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you must be a joy at parties vince.
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Funny thing that you should mention it, don't get invited to many.
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Funny thing that you should mention it, don't get invited to many.
;D
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Sorry Vince live with the can of worms and stop been petty.
Thats alright, you don't need to say sorry, but its not just window cleaners is it? Its the whole benefits culture that I object to and it does offend me. Don't go thinking these people work cheap either and undercut, they don't. Its the fact they think they are so clever that makes me want to pull the rug out from under them.
When I was taxi driving it was worse, one guy boasting he had never paid a penny tax in one breath and saying how he was taking his family to Cyprus for a month in the next.
I am pretty sure if he has gone out and spent thousands on a van, system and leaflets he would be on benefits.
The benefit cheats are most likely driving around in a car, with a set of ladders on top and drying their scrims on the car heater lol.
We only have ourselves to blame with the amount of newbies starting up, guys on here bragging and B.S.ing about how much they earn, hmmm £50-£60 per hour sounds extremely good to someone thinking about starting up.
Matt
Matt, you're over estimating this forum mate. 20,000 members yes, but about 70 regular posters and about the same amount passive readers. That 20,000 represent about 0.002% of windies in UK. I don't believe that before starting up a WC round that all newbies read cr@p on here and think "I'll have some of that".
How many forums are out there? A few active ones and even more for builders etc etc. This forum has next to zero influence on how many newbies start up in UK. Chill. ;)
As has been said already, I'd be suprised if some benefit cheat had invested in a newish van with all the kit to go and earn beer money.
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glad i dont live in pinner , super grass vince ,you dont need coppers they got vince and they aint nicking your work there doing jobs you missed or lost because you was to busy being nosey instead of working
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The benefit cheats are most likely driving around in a car, with a set of ladders on top and drying their scrims on the car heater lol.
Matt
no need for that comment,i choose not to have a van and a crappy wfp set up,dont make me a cheat
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Of course. I started with a Datsun Cherry hatchback a few small tools and the ladder on top wasn't even mine. I borrowed it from an out of trade plumber. I was legit too.
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The benefit cheats are most likely driving around in a car, with a set of ladders on top and drying their scrims on the car heater lol.
Matt
no need for that comment,i choose not to have a van and a crappy wfp set up,dont make me a cheat
Of course. I started with a Datsun Cherry hatchback a few small tools and the ladder on top wasn't even mine. I borrowed it from an out of trade plumber. I was legit too.
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When I started I didn't even have a car or a ladder!! I had a bucket, mop, squeegee and a couple of old tea towels for scrims. I could only do bungalows, but I built a pretty good round and I was legit as well. Everyone has to start somewhere, give them a break!!!
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I think your wasting your time Vince, cant imagine the tax office being that interested. You get a small amount of time after you've set up a business to register anyway plus any earnings dont have to be declared till the tax year end. . As for dole cheats, its pointless. They have to prove their actively looking for work to keep claiming anyway, what better way than leafleting to prove their wanting to work! It doesnt prove they actually are unless you photograph them doing it and even then , your allowed to carry on claiming as long as you declare part time earnings.( I worked in an unemployment benefit office for four long years).We all get jittery now and again about competition but sounds like your getting paranoid. Book a holiday and take some chill time mate
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The benefit cheat deserves any punishment they get, however, benefits and immigration issues are subject to so much misinformation.
Getting benefits these days is becoming as hard as obtaining a British passport.
The following tale may enlighten a few of you.
In October last year my son lost his job, to date he has received no benefits.
He has worked for 24 years as a fisherman. Being classed as self employed he is liable to pay his own tax.
Because my son had over £16,000 in the bank, he was disqualified from claiming job seekers allowance. His protestations that the money was not his, but was set aside for the tax man meant nothing.
In January my son paid his £14,000 tax bill, this included the money he owed for payment received since April last year until he finished work.
The dole said that he should not have paid this tax bill until it was due after the 6th of April coming, they said he should have lived on it, and accused him of disposing of assets.
So how the hell was he supposed to pay the tax on money already earned if he spends it on living expenses?
My lads not a happy man, he's earned over 50k a year for the last 10 years, and paid tax on every penny of it, his MP is looking into the matter, in the meantime he gets nowt.
I give him a couple of days work a week to keep the roof over his head.
Is he a benefit cheat? What bloody benefits?
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I would imagine the tax-office is inundated daily with people 'grassing' others up. When I say 'grassing' I mean trying to do someone over because theyve got a grudge with them. Id imagine the tax-office is quite used to it by
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The benefit cheat deserves any punishment they get, however, benefits and immigration issues are subject to so much misinformation.
Getting benefits these days is becoming as hard as obtaining a British passport.
The following tale may enlighten a few of you.
In October last year my son lost his job, to date he has received no benefits.
He has worked for 24 years as a fisherman. Being classed as self employed he is liable to pay his own tax.
Because my son had over £16,000 in the bank, he was disqualified from claiming job seekers allowance. His protestations that the money was not his, but was set aside for the tax man meant nothing.
In January my son paid his £14,000 tax bill, this included the money he owed for payment received since April last year until he finished work.
The dole said that he should not have paid this tax bill until it was due after the 6th of April coming, they said he should have lived on it, and accused him of disposing of assets.
So how the hell was he supposed to pay the tax on money already earned if he spends it on living expenses?
My lads not a happy man, he's earned over 50k a year for the last 10 years, and paid tax on every penny of it, his MP is looking into the matter, in the meantime he gets nowt.
I give him a couple of days work a week to keep the roof over his head.
Is he a benefit cheat? What bloody benefits?
I'd be walking the street with a shotgun mate if that was me. >:( Not funny.
Wish him a speedy settlement there Dai
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The benefit cheat deserves any punishment they get, however, benefits and immigration issues are subject to so much misinformation.
Getting benefits these days is becoming as hard as obtaining a British passport.
The following tale may enlighten a few of you.
In October last year my son lost his job, to date he has received no benefits.
He has worked for 24 years as a fisherman. Being classed as self employed he is liable to pay his own tax.
Because my son had over £16,000 in the bank, he was disqualified from claiming job seekers allowance. His protestations that the money was not his, but was set aside for the tax man meant nothing.
In January my son paid his £14,000 tax bill, this included the money he owed for payment received since April last year until he finished work.
The dole said that he should not have paid this tax bill until it was due after the 6th of April coming, they said he should have lived on it, and accused him of disposing of assets.
So how the hell was he supposed to pay the tax on money already earned if he spends it on living expenses?
My lads not a happy man, he's earned over 50k a year for the last 10 years, and paid tax on every penny of it, his MP is looking into the matter, in the meantime he gets nowt.
I give him a couple of days work a week to keep the roof over his head.
Is he a benefit cheat? What bloody benefits?
my hat off to him, fishermen work dam hard and in really bad conditions. if that weren't bad enough to be messed about by some soft arse behind a desk who don't know what a days hard graft is. well whats it all about?