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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2011, 12:46:50 pm »
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mikecam

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2011, 04:16:17 pm »
I'm with Vince.

Why all this talk of "grassing"?  Why not call it "doing your civic duty?"

Anyone who fiddles their taxes is stealing money off you.  You're paying more tax because of people like that.  Stuff them.  You'd report a burglar to the authorities.

Anyone attacking Vince should ask themselves why they stand with the people breaking the law rather than with all the people who don't.

Since when is it your Civic Duty to report people who are going about what may (or may not be) a legitimate business activity? Unless i've missed something they did not appear to be doing aything wrong. If you put that Civic Duty idea of your fully to the test the HMRC would be swamped with work checking everyone willy nilly , i don't believe they have enough staff to do that.
 Anyway, you two need to give your heads a wobble. Giving peoples details to the authorities just in case. I hope they bring fines in for time wasters of public services too !!!!

christopher b

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2011, 04:31:31 pm »
Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.

I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.

Patriotic duty my arse, do 9 years in the service and then say patriotic.
and before painting everyone on benefits with the same brush there are people who are good and want to work among them also. next thing you are going to tell us all you never been out of work?
rule is be hard but fair, if someone is out there breaking the rules then so be it, but if it someone starting out the last thing they need is someone flinging S**t around for them.
so really good to get facts correct about someone before making any calls otherwise if it turns on you and they know the system then there could be an "infringement of privacy" taken against who is making the calls.

did it once someone calling dole, tax office, vat office about me and they slipped up and I found out. £60 later on a brief and a day in small court i got all costs back and they a warning. now overtime I see them they know they cant even fart near me or il have them back there. "O" and a year and a half after the event they went under. somehow it leaked out about them and there deeds

groundhog

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2011, 05:03:24 pm »
Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.

I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
What a complete arsehole!!! Nothing worse than a grass!!!!!!!!!!  >:(

Steve_c

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2011, 05:19:01 pm »
Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.

I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.
What a complete arsehole!!! Nothing worse than a grass!!!!!!!!!!  >:(

Wow, you sound like a bundle of delight.  "Nothing worse than a grass?"  That's the language of the prison yard.  The language of people who think they are better than the law in some way.  Pitiful.

So, someone nicking taxes is better than the person who tells HMRC?  You need to look at your priorities.  Why would you side with the thief?
I think you have hit a nerve....... yes shop them.

tony atkinson

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2011, 05:36:14 pm »
let them get on with it you had to start from scratch when you set up because you are set up and makeing a good liveing out of it you think no1 else should have a go if you do a good job you should have nothing to worry about i have it all the time but i just get on with it at the end of the day good luck to them get a life you grasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.........................

just had 10,000 new flyers made up and will be canvassing all day 2moro if you get one send 1 in to the hmrc ....

richyp

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2011, 07:50:12 pm »
nothing worse than a grass... some sad people on here

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2011, 08:02:24 pm »
This thread has really got nothing to do with tax not been paid its about some little minded man frightened by a little competition. The tax issue is a smoke screen read the first entry. Chicken
And to Dave is Vince making the bullets and you do the firing them. Don’t be used.

Londoner

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2011, 08:15:56 pm »
Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.

I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.

Patriotic duty my arse, do 9 years in the service and then say patriotic.

I did my time in the service. have a bullet hole in my leg to show for it. Bogside 1978 just below my right knee. Medical discharge 1979. No award.
so don't tell me about it. And it hurts every day. And its getting worse, been off work twice this year with celulitus in that leg. terrified of it coming back. Check it at least five times a day.

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2011, 08:18:34 pm »
This thread has really got nothing to do with tax not been paid its about some little minded man frightened by a little competition. The tax issue is a smoke screen read the first entry.
I think you need SPECSAVER or you do read and not understand.  ??? ???

david watts

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2011, 08:23:15 pm »
Why do you report them to HMRC?

Andy
why not well done vince good idea;loads seem to work have new vans and cars
and most round here are firemen ;)
life is like a box of chocolates you get the crap no one else wants

Kate2

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2011, 08:30:44 pm »
Um, been reading this with interest.

I think this is not really black and white.

Youve got the young chappy on here, on another post trying to do all legit.  Off to the jobcentre, going to find out what hes entitled to..........thats cool, fine example of somebody trying to help themselves.

Then

There is the other pot, trouble is though.............. how can anybody have the inside knowledge to know what that person is trying to do, it could be the chappy on here who is trying to be legit, I just dont know, unless you are going to speak directly to them in person, think you kind of have to think things through, best discussing I think.  Because on the outface side of things it could look iffy, but the gentleman on here who has posted, hes not trying to do a fast one.  Think with regards to human nature best not to jump to conclusions- dont know Im an idiot anyway - just think its prob easier to gather facts etc,  just always think "Hang fire" before anybody does anything




















david watts

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2011, 08:31:34 pm »
just read the rest of this crap whats with the use of the word grass? ::)
as andy gray says hes just asking the hmrc to have a look
nowt wrong nowt to fear ;)
life is like a box of chocolates you get the crap no one else wants

christopher b

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2011, 09:06:03 pm »
Um, been reading this with interest.

I think this is not really black and white.

Youve got the young chappy on here, on another post trying to do all legit.  Off to the jobcentre, going to find out what hes entitled to..........thats cool, fine example of somebody trying to help themselves.

Then

There is the other pot, trouble is though.............. how can anybody have the inside knowledge to know what that person is trying to do, it could be the chappy on here who is trying to be legit, I just dont know, unless you are going to speak directly to them in person, think you kind of have to think things through, best discussing I think.  Because on the outface side of things it could look iffy, but the gentleman on here who has posted, hes not trying to do a fast one.  Think with regards to human nature best not to jump to conclusions- dont know Im an idiot anyway - just think its prob easier to gather facts etc,  just always think "Hang fire" before anybody does anything


at last someone who has got the idea!
just because there new don't mean there bent and have a think about it before throwing accusations. don't just go of a flyer's see the people, if they look like they mean business they probably are genuine. if they look somewhat shady then yea give the DHSS and  inland revenue a call by all means. and Tony thanks your someone else who has more than one brain cell to use.

and to clear another thing Dave they pay less tax because they are new and only just building there turnover. and hate to spoil it but you only pay the tax you owe based on income. another thing is having someone phone the dole is one thing but to constantly be on to the authorities about me is taking the p**s and we all have our rights to PRIVACY

and Vince you never know you could have seen me then in 82, as we said we bend them you mend them

once upon a time we as humans would have thought nothing about all of this and just got on with our lives. we would have even stopped to talk to the new guy and only then decided if they were straight or not.
but alas modern day living has reverted us back to cave man days, going around peeing on things to mark our territory. i think the modern day thing to this is to have the customers put banners in there windows saying " I'm with him" so when people are out with flyer's they know if they are treading on someones round.

but then is the decision on who gets the work not that of the customer!















Richard iSparkle

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2011, 09:20:51 pm »
nothing worse than a grass... some sad people on here

funny that.  i think a benefit cheat or tax cheat is worse than a grass.  clearly you think the other way around. 

that says a lot really.  ::)
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Kate2

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2011, 09:36:04 pm »
Gawd I must be old, only thing Im saying is dont take things on face value, nobody knows circumstances, whats going on, background, family life, nowt.  A and S makes an ass out of you and me  AssumE. love that saying, lol.  Life is so different for all of us, think we have to go along with that ride, who knows ey?

christopher b

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2011, 11:03:29 pm »
i agree

mci services

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2011, 11:11:56 pm »
don't see a massive problem with what Vince has done, if they are legit then they have nothing to worry about. I wouldn't do it my self but each of us can do what we please, if you take the decision to work illegally and get caught tough, if you don't get caught well done but it will catch up eventually, and if times are hard well you do what you have to do to survive

christopher b

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2011, 11:31:12 pm »
yes

I don't agree with working on the side but:
I will openly admit if I knew for it was some guy who just cant make ends meet and is just trying to put some extra food on the table or clothes on his kids backs, or give them a little extra at Xmas by doing 3 or 4 windows a week then I would bite my lip and turn a blind eye, hes taking the risk for need not greed.

its the ones who are doing it and who's second car is some flash thing, has two houses and goes to Florida each year that gets my back up

davids3511

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2011, 11:42:53 pm »
yes

I don't agree with working on the side but:
I will openly admit if I knew for it was some guy who just cant make ends meet and is just trying to put some extra food on the table or clothes on his kids backs, or give them a little extra at Xmas by doing 3 or 4 windows a week then I would bite my lip and turn a blind eye, hes taking the risk for need not greed.

its the ones who are doing it and who's second car is some flash thing, has two houses and goes to Florida each year that gets my back up
I don't understand this grass bit. Where do you draw the line. If you had info about who killed that girl last week would you be a grass to go to the police with the info? If not, why not? If I knew who stole my next door neightbours car would I be a grass to tell? Where is the line?