Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Wc Solutions on March 04, 2011, 08:18:16 pm
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just want to make it clear im in no way running down gardiners at all!
i got unlucky and had one of the ' dodgy batch ' rubbish glue and clamps fall off weekly.
just starting to think it not good enough for evert day use, week in, week out...
its a good light pole at a good price compared to other poles - but maybe its too cheap??!
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is it really worth spending over double to get a slx??
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just want to make it clear im in no way running down gardiners at all!
i got unlucky and had one of the ' dodgy batch ' rubbish glue and clamps fall off weekly.
just starting to think it not good enough for evert day use, week in, week out...
its a good light pole at a good price compared to other poles - but maybe its too cheap??!
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is it really worth spending over double to get a slx??
IMO yes.
Superior pole. I've used one daily for 3 years with no problems at all. Lighter, more rigid & harder wearing. ;)
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Yes
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Yes
sorry your post wasnt very clear.
for my 80 year old grandad :D
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Don't worry, the clamps fall off the SLX and the SMAX just the same ;D
Great poles, great clamps just poor glue.
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Yes
sorry your post wasnt very clear.
for my 80 year old grandad :D
opps sorry grandpa, it was yes definatly
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To get your clamps to stay on forever-
remove them, clean both the end of pole section & inner clamp really well & remove any old glue.
Scour both these surfaces to get a good key for the adhesive. You need to scratch both surfaces, sand paper will do it or hacksaw blade.
Apply 2-part epoxy resin to both surfaces & fit back together, twisting a little as they go together.
Leave over night. ;)
The glue that Gardiners retail (2 part resin) is superb! I upgraded my MKI slx clamps to the latest ones about 12 to 18 months ago & followed their instructions to the word. Not one has moved a millimeter & they get some right hammer too! ;D
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all the clamps are rubbish for all there poles!
if you want a good pole,get a ionics pole much better,theres others too.
clx and slx are just cheap!
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all the clamps are rubbish for all there poles!
if you want a good pole,get a ionics pole much better,theres others too.
clx and slx are just cheap!
Doc you really have got a gripe with gardiners, first their brushes, now their poles?
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all the clamps are rubbish for all there poles!
if you want a good pole,get a ionics pole much better,theres others too.
clx and slx are just cheap!
Doc you really have got a gripe with gardiners, first their brushes, now their poles?
but he aint got a ionics pole :P
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all the clamps are rubbish for all there poles!
if you want a good pole,get a ionics pole much better,theres others too.
clx and slx are just cheap!
YAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNN
Same sh*t, different day! :-\
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just pay another 100 for a slx...job done ;D
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is that what they say at wilko's when you buy your araldite?
;D ;Dall the clamps are rubbish for all there poles!
if you want a good pole,get a ionics pole much better,theres others too.
clx and slx are just cheap!
YAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNN
Same sh*t, different day! :-\
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Like my clx but it is iritating to have to adjust clamps on a daily basis.
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is that what they say at wilko's when you buy your araldite?
;D ;Dall the clamps are rubbish for all there poles!
if you want a good pole,get a ionics pole much better,theres others too.
clx and slx are just cheap!
YAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNN
Same sh*t, different day! :-\
Same sh*t, same day!
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I have a clx. Am fed up with regluing a clamp every week or so. Ridiculous.
Wouldn't buy another. Although otherwise a fantastic pole. Harris poles have better clamps.
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i don't know what some of you do with your poles, Ive had a older 30ft slx for some time had the extra section, then i got slx 22 over a year old and clx 18ft and a clx9ft and Ive never had a clamp un glue itself ::)
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I have a clx. Am fed up with regluing a clamp every week or so. Ridiculous.
Wouldn't buy another. Although otherwise a fantastic pole. Harris poles have better clamps.
You been on the sherberts Miles?
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same clamps so why bother??
might have a lighter pole but the clamps will still need re gluing!
just pay another 100 for a slx...job done ;D
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always had problems with slx clamps since the mark1 til now. dont know if the are up to
being worked hard day in day out, having to adjust clamps serveral times a day is a pain
and why can't they glue the clamps as well as there instructions say???
facelift poles are far better in terms of clamps and build quality pity they are not as light
as slx.
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im waiting for tecbuk s new poles,they are going to be the best on the market togo alongside there brushes!
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Where are you based doctorwindows?
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im waiting for tecbuk s new poles,they are going to be the best on the market togo alongside there brushes!
Can't wait to see it! ;D ;D ;D
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im waiting for tecbuk s new poles,they are going to be the best on the market togo alongside there brushes!
Nice discount for you aswell eh ;)
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yes and they are going to use proper glue for there clamps!
found one of my superlite brushes today,made me chuckle,couldn't believe i used such a hideous and pathetic brush! ;D ;D
im waiting for tecbuk s new poles,they are going to be the best on the market togo alongside there brushes!
Can't wait to see it! ;D ;D ;D
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Where are you based doctorwindows?
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Doctor windows I hope you are any good cleaning window.I am sure Gardeners could find fault with your product.This is a two way street.
You are so obsessed with running Gardeners down you are loosen your own creditability in the process.I am sure we are all know how you feel about them so give it a break. Mate
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Message to all Clx and slx users if you do not like your pole we do have second hand area on this site.PLEASE PLACE ARE ADVERT FOR YOUR POLE AS THERE WILL BE MANY TAKERS, thank you, Wizkid
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ive never had a clamp come loose on any pole.
the clx is a good budget everyday pole IMO.course its good enough for using day in/day out!ive been using it every day since october!
im getting a 22ft SLX soon though as i could do with the extra rigidity due to a lot of extending over extensions/conservatories.with the clx being a good back up pole.
doctorwindows you dont do yourself any favours mate running gardiners down!also how old are you?12?you come across as being rather childish!only you can do something about that!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
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im waiting for tecbuk s new poles,they are going to be the best on the market togo alongside there brushes!
I would hope it was better than their extension pieces - they weigh a ton for what they are.
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to be honest i like the doctor at least he speaks his mind and just jump on the band wagon like every one else does on here let be honest if you bought a laptop and all the keys kept falling off you would whinge like hell and take it back so why dont you when you recieved your faulty poles
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Thank you woody.
I like my clx poles but aren't going to make out there brilliant when they aren't because the clamps are no good.
Sorry to upset you all.
to be honest i like the doctor at least he speaks his mind and just jump on the band wagon like every one else does on here let be honest if you bought a laptop and all the keys kept falling off you would whinge like hell and take it back so why dont you when you recieved your faulty poles
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Thanx dazmond.
Someone told me you have a 50 litre freedom trolley and you went wfp last year :D yawn no you say it in every other post don't you Mr sleepy.only you can change.
Docive never had a clamp come loose on any pole.
the clx is a good budget everyday pole IMO.course its good enough for using day in/day out!ive been using it every day since october!
im getting a 22ft SLX soon though as i could do with the extra rigidity due to a lot of extending over extensions/conservatories.with the clx being a good back up pole.
doctorwindows you dont do yourself any favours mate running gardiners down!also how old are you?12?you come across as being rather childish!only you can do something about that!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
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Like my clx but it is iritating to have to adjust clamps on a daily basis.
The clamps should not need adjusting on a daily basis. If you find that you have to, the problem may be that the barrel nuts are not locking onto the bolt. The simple solution is to replace with new barrel nuts. Please contact the Office and they will sort this out for you.
"Posted by: mileslake
I have a clx. Am fed up with regluing a clamp every week or so. Ridiculous.
Wouldn't buy another. Although otherwise a fantastic pole. Harris poles have better clamps."
Apologies that have you had issues with the clamps. Once they have been re-glued (outlined in a previous post) they will not come off. The most important part of regluing is in the preparation - making sure both surfaces are free of old glue and dust and are then abraded and cleaned properly. Apply glue to BOTH prepared surfaces before twisting together. Alternatively, if the pole is less than 6 months old, please contact the Office and we will arrange a collection and the pole will be sorted in our workshop and returned to you. Once a pole has been reglued in our workshop the clamps never come off.
Posted by: thermoclean Posted on: Yesterday at 11:34:37 pm
always had problems with slx clamps since the mark1 til now. dont know if the are up to
being worked hard day in day out, having to adjust clamps serveral times a day is a pain
and why can't they glue the clamps as well as there instructions say???
facelift poles are far better in terms of clamps and build quality pity they are not as light
as slx.
You should not need to adjust the clamps several times a day. The problem may be that the barrel nuts are not locking onto the bolt. The simple solution is to replace with new barrel nuts. Please contact the Office and they will sort this out for you. Regarding the gluing issue, we have had a problem with previous batches with the factory assembly line not following our manufacturing instructions in the gluing process. Unfortunately this is only apparent when the poles are worked with and does only affect a very small percentage of the 1000's of poles sold. When a client experiences this problem, we do try and resolve it as quickly and simply as possible, either by offering a glue kit or collecting the pole and carrying out the work and returning the pole.
Posted by: doctorwindows Posted on: Today at 09:01:49 am
I like my clx poles but aren't going to make out there brilliant when they aren't because the clamps are no good.
We're sorry you have had gluing issues with your clamps. As previously offered, please contact the Office and we will arrange collection of your CL-X, carry out any work necessary and return it to you.
Posted by: woody1 Posted on: Today at 08:52:10 am
to be honest i like the doctor at least he speaks his mind and just jump on the band wagon like every one else does on here let be honest if you bought a laptop and all the keys kept falling off you would whinge like hell and take it back so why dont you when you recieved your faulty poles
We are just as frustrated when we learn that a client's pole has caused them problems by a clamp coming unglued, even though it is a very small percentage, and once we are notified make sure the problem is sorted out as quickly as possible. The factory has been gluing the clamps to our original instructions for some time now so hopefully it will be even less of a problem.
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You guys must give your poles a right battering! I have a CLX-27 since they were released & have never had an issue with it. I'd go so far as to describe it as "Robust"!!!
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I love it when Gardiners come on here and respond in the professional manner that they do.
I wonder which one of the pre-menstrual moaners on here is Ewan.
Well done Gardiners Adminl.
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I love it when Gardiners come on here and respond in the professional manner that they do.
I wonder which one of the pre-menstrual moaners on here is Ewan. Well done Gardiners Adminl.
That doesn't take much working out! ;D
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im waiting for tecbuk s new poles,they are going to be the best on the market togo alongside there brushes!
I would hope it was better than their extension pieces - they weigh a ton for what they are.
They must increase the overall flex of the head assembly quite a bit too!
I've been using the QR carbon gooseneck from Gardiners this week, zero flex, zero weight, AWESOME!! ;D
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honestly some of you guys are just thick,stupid and childish!!not one brain cell between you! ;D ;D ;D ;D
it doesnt take much to glue a clamp on properly!ive never had any issues with clamps falling off or working loose and i have 4 poles.
if you do its straight forward to put right.stop moaning and applaud the fact that a wonderful company like gardiners are making decent poles that ease the strain on our bodies and helps us to make more money in less time!!
unger poles.........too heavy!
brodex poles..........too heavy and large closed length!
gardiners poles........best user friendly lightweight poles on the market!!!
LONG LIVE GARDINERS!!!!
i for one will be using them for many years to come!!well done alex and the team!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
dazmond
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i just ordered some hose on friday morning does anyone know what day it should arrive normally when ordered on a friday :)
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If its ordered from Gardiners it'll arrive the day before; from Brodex, they'll deny you ever ordered it.
:)
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I had a clamp go on my CLX and just did as Winpro said on earlier post, remove old glue, roughen up surfaces and apply new araldite in a broad bead right around and leave over-night, sorted ;D. Gardiners, when informed, also sent out some araldite,no charge :D.
There aren't many companys left with such good customer services anymore, so well done Gadiners and keep up the good work, quality.
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You all have brown stuff on your tongues ;D
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You all have brown stuff on your tongues ;D
You need to get out more looking at your stats in your footer! ;D
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Doctorwindows where are you based?
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You all have brown stuff on your tongues ;D
You need to get out more looking at your stats in your footer! ;D
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Doctorwindows where are you based?
i thinks he's based at home most of the time gluing his clamps back on ;D ;D
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I think my pole hose is not up too the riggers of daily use!!
At least twice a day it gets tangled up! I am fed up of sorting it out.!!!
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Come on boys, everything in life can cause you a few problems every now and then. A bit of glue and bobs your uncle!!
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It always makes me laugh when anything negative is said about Gardiners on here, I am not going to call them one way or another as I don't use their poles, but I do think there is a fan club on here who must be in their pay!
There is so much smoke blown up their arses they must be well cured by now.
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im thinkin of buying 2 poles slx but dornt want to keep glueing clamps on plus if new poles comming out i can hang on
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It always makes me laugh when anything negative is said about Gardiners on here, I am not going to call them one way or another as I don't use their poles, but I do think there is a fan club on here who must be in their pay!
There is so much smoke blown up their arses they must be well cured by now.
It's more than negative with drwindows though. It's an idiot spouting rubbish who hasn't a clue what he's talking about! :-*
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im thinkin of buying 2 poles slx but dornt want to keep glueing clamps on plus if new poles comming out i can hang on
The new pole is in a different league Bumper & about twice the price.
I've used a slx 25ft for three years & never had 1 clamp problem. ;)
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It always makes me laugh when anything negative is said about Gardiners on here, I am not going to call them one way or another as I don't use their poles, but I do think there is a fan club on here who must be in their pay!
There is so much smoke blown up their arses they must be well cured by now.
It's more than negative with drwindows though. It's an idiot spouting rubbish who hasn't a clue what he's talking about! :-*
But it goes to the other extreme too, with people who have only been working wfp for a matter of a few months spouting off that they are the best poles out there for everyday residential use.
That may be so, but until someone has used all makes of pole back to back over a long period of time it is a big statement to make.
I personally use brodex alloy poles at the moment as they are strong and do the job that I want them to do, I don't need light and cutting edge, just reliability that it will work everytime I pick it up and chuck it back in the van.
I have been using it for a year now with no problems what so ever, yeah the clamps came unglued, but a bit of glue and it works fine, never sticks, rigid and is strong - good enough for me.
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im thinkin of buying 2 poles slx but dornt want to keep glueing clamps on plus if new poles comming out i can hang on
The new pole is in a different league Bumper & about twice the price.
I've used a slx 25ft for three years & never had 1 clamp problem. ;)
im afraid my dole money wornt strech that far ;D ill haveto stick with slx
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i think that a lot of problems with the clamps are that alot of you let the pole slam down onto the clamp when closing it down,causing the clap to take a impact and breaking the glue seal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!my view for whats it worth.
my slx is 2 years old and never have to stick a clamp yet.and this pole is my everyday pole,and it gets abused daily,trust me.
the xtel and brodex pole i had to glue clamp back on,but once glued never had a problem.
ALEX IF YOU LIKE NOW TO DONATE A POLE SO I CAN AUCTION OFF FOR MY LONDON MARATHON RUN THEN THAT BE GREAT :P :P :P :P :Psee top sticky post
sorry alex dont ask dont get ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i think that a lot of problems with the clamps are that alot of you let the pole slam down onto the clamp when closing it down,causing the clap to take a impact and breaking the glue seal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!my view for whats it worth.
my slx is 2 years old and never have to stick a clamp yet.and this pole is my everyday pole,and it gets abused daily,trust me.
the xtel and brodex pole i had to glue clamp back on,but once glued never had a problem.
ALEX IF YOU LIKE NOW TO DONATE A POLE SO I CAN AUCTION OFF FOR MY LONDON MARATHON RUN THEN THAT BE GREAT :P :P :P :P :Psee top sticky post
sorry alex dont ask dont get ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk
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Not been updated since about the 18th of Feb on Target to hit the 50 new custys and smashing the 500 pound worth of new custys.
Don't know what your problem is wimpo.think you need to stop sucking fella
You all have brown stuff on your tongues ;D
You need to get out more looking at your stats in your footer! ;D
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Not been updated since about the 18th of Feb on Target to hit the 50 new custys and smashing the 500 pound worth of new custys.
Don't know what your problem is wimpo.think you need to stop sucking fella
You all have brown stuff on your tongues ;D
You need to get out more looking at your stats in your footer! ;D
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Really? :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
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rogger we are clear for take off onk onk ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yes really m8 no reason to lie.
Doing great.really happy the way its going at the moment.like I say gardiners poles are the best.
Not been updated since about the 18th of Feb on Target to hit the 50 new custys and smashing the 500 pound worth of new custys.
Don't know what your problem is wimpo.think you need to stop sucking fella
You all have brown stuff on your tongues ;D
You need to get out more looking at your stats in your footer! ;D
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Really? :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
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So u got your.first custy yet.dare you knock a door yet.
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rogger we are clear for take off onk onk ;D ;D ;D ;D
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we are a touchy one tonight aren't we when i first read the post it said 500 new customers not 50, and yes my business is growing fine thanks i have no need to go door knocking as im build my business from leaflet drops , internet and word of mouth ;D ;D
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Good on you Im getting the same.starting to dump the bad payers and bad access houses.
we are a touchy one tonight arn't we when i first read the post it said 500 new customers not 50, and yes my business is growing fine thanks i have no need to go door knocking as im build my business from leaflet drops , internet and word of mouth ;D ;D
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doctorwindows, you do make me wonder why you bother posting sometimes, our you a very un happy boy, do you need a cuddle to cheer you up, our bless him, :-*
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sorry i will stop having a opinion and bah like the 99% of sheep and just agree with everyone!
doctorwindows, you do make me wonder why you bother posting sometimes, our you a very un happy boy, do you need a cuddle to cheer you up, our bless him, :-*
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no need to apologize, but there is no need to be so negative in your choice of words, there are better ways to put your opinion across without spoiling a thread to the point people don't want to read it, negative comments on a product is your opinion but to rant on like a little boys is very boring, Ive given you negative comments without insults just humor, its not rocket science surly.
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like i said i have had brodex,xtel and gardiners,gardiners by far the best,great customer service too!
i have nothing against them.For the price they are a bargain and i want a 22 clx to go with the 18 and 27!might get the smallest one too for a few of my commercial work and bungalows i do!
no need to apologize, but there is no need to be so negative in your choice of words, there are better ways to put your opinion across without spoiling a thread to the point people don't want to read it, negative comments on a product is your opinion but to rant on like a little boys is very boring, Ive given you negative comments without insults just humor, its not rocket science surly.
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alex should be doing a smaller clx soon as standard, i rang him gave him the specs i wanted and he made it for me 3 section 9ft in total for my shops bungalows etc, i converted a old pole over three years ago to theses specs for the above jobs but its at the end of its life so it had to be replaced, the new one feeling brill due to thinner poles than what we had a few years ago. i could never be without it, over the years ive used ionics first then brodex to varitech to cleantech, but ive used alex for four years now and i find him very helpful very quick service, good customer relations, but if he let me down i would soon ring him and tell him,
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nice one m8,any ideas when the new poles will be available?
id love a 20ft pole with about 5 sections!
alex should be doing a smaller clx soon as standard, i rang him gave him the specs i wanted and he made it for me 3 section 9ft in total for my shops bungalows etc, i converted a old pole over three years ago to theses specs for the above jobs but its at the end of its life so it had to be replaced, the new one feeling brill due to thinner poles than what we had a few years ago. i could never be without it, over the years ive used ionics first then brodex to varitech to cleantech, but ive used alex for four years now and i find him very helpful very quick service, good customer relations, but if he let me down i would soon ring him and tell him,
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all you got to do is ring alex ask nicely and tell him the specs you want and im sure you will be well happy, i remember when i use to deal with brodex they use to make them to my specs, i always got fed up with getting a new pole and taking it apart to make it to my specs as i never liked the old six foot plus ones we could only get at one stage.
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cheers pal
i just sent a email to him.
brodex are useless in my opinion,last time i ordered a pole after 2 weeks of waiting for it i called them and they tried to say i ordered it the day before,never appologised and then had the cheek to offer me 3 poles for a price!
all you got to do is ring alex ask nicely and tell him the specs you want and im sure you will be well happy, i remember when i use to deal with brodex they use to make them to my specs, i always got fed up with getting a new pole and taking it apart to make it to my specs as i never liked the old six foot plus ones we could only get at one stage.
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I have a CLX 22 and have had the clamp issues and also the tape which stops the sections coming apart has worn away so if i over extend the pole it falls apart, anyone else had this?
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i prefer my pole not to have the positive stop both my slx just pull apart, all you need is some bright enamel paint and paint a mark to let you know when your close, this way i can use my slx 35 at a 18 most of the time then just add section when i need them, now with new quick change brush clamp its one pole only i can leave slx 22 at home, to me its perfect,
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i prefer my pole not to have the positive stop both my slx just pull apart, all you need is some bright enamel paint and paint a mark to let you know when your close, this way i can use my slx 35 at a 18 most of the time then just add section when i need them, now with new quick change brush clamp its one pole only i can leave slx 22 at home, to me its perfect,
Great minds think alike! ;D ;D
I'm the same, I actually took the tape off my slx & marked it with paint instead. ;) Makes it easier to strip for cleaning too.