{It’s certainly possible for those that are willing to do whatever it takes, work like a machine for years, reinvest every penny, cope with stress levels that could kill most people, and ignore naysayers and haters.}

I really like the above post because I was on the other forum and worked 6 to 7 days a week and invested every penny back into the cleaning business. Luckily I had the fire service pension and lump sum to begin with and buy the most efficient system to make my work as simple as possible. After 5 years it all began to pay off and I was making £200 a day. Then I slowly creped up to £300 a day and the naysayers didn't like it one bit so they barred me from the other forum. Every time I left, the forum slowly died and they asked me to come back and it picked up again. They have asked me to come back but no point, still the same naysayers that want folk to fail. I can make a great living staying under the Vat level so I have no intention to add a van nor employ anyone. I do PW, Roof Spraying, PVC Spraying, Window Cleaning and painting for folk I know well so I only have 100 odd windy customers.