Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jay moley on October 28, 2021, 07:59:02 pm
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Im 8.00am - 4.00pm.
If I finish the actual windows early I'll canvass the rest of the time to do a full 8 hour day.
Get the feeling from reading on here that others are swanning off at 1pm. Not sure how you can afford to do that financially every day. Also lazy in my book if you are doing that all the time. Different if you're semi retired or something.
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Im 8.00am - 4.00pm.
If I finish the actual windows early I'll canvass the rest of the time to do a full 8 hour day.
Get the feeling from reading on here that others are swanning off at 1pm. Not sure how you can afford to do that financially every day. Also lazy in my book if you are doing that all the time. Different if you're semi retired or something.
On average 8 till 2.
3 or 4 days a week ;D
Probably count on one hand the amount of times ive worked till 4 in the 6 years ive been at it. Its far too boring and tiring to work till that time if you work at a fast pace.
As for being lazy, i used to work 5 days but now i can earn in 3 days what i used to earn in 5 just by refining the round and being more efficent.
Plus i like to consider myself as semi retired, whats the point in going self employed to torture yourself with a 5 day week.
Finanicially i make enough to pay my bills and have some left over to play with and save a bit. I dont need to earn loads of money i live a very basic lifestyle... no interest in flash cars, clothes or 5 star holidays. I wear mainly primark these days haha
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Im 8.00am - 4.00pm.
If I finish the actual windows early I'll canvass the rest of the time to do a full 8 hour day.
Get the feeling from reading on here that others are swanning off at 1pm. Not sure how you can afford to do that financially every day. Also lazy in my book if you are doing that all the time. Different if you're semi retired or something.
8.30 TO 2/3 PM usually around 4 days , but sometimes 5 and maybe a saturday morning.
If I couldnt afford to knock of early , I wouldnt .
I live within my means , so that I dont have to join the rat race
I am not lazy . its taken years of not being lazy to get to this point
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6-7 hours most days, Monday to Friday. Occasionally do a 10-12 hour day when work dictates and the money is right.
3 weeks off in summer, 2 weeks at Christmas and a week in October. Might start taking a week off in May also.
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8-12 usually,
My round is very well refined though, yesterday for example was £510 by midday. That was a £250 commercial job, then a £260 front and side render clean of a house. I started at 7:30am on the commercial, then onto the softwash job straight after. I was home by midday. Those days are always amazing!
I now only have 9 days of domestic window cleaning per month.
The rest is commercial and softwashing etc.
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8-12 usually,
My round is very well refined though, yesterday for example was £510 by midday. That was a £250 commercial job, then a £260 front and side render clean of a house. I started at 7:30am on the commercial, then onto the softwash job straight after. I was home by midday. Those days are always amazing!
I now only have 9 days of domestic window cleaning per month.
The rest is commercial and softwashing etc.
How physically hard is a softwash generally compared to say "normal" domestic window cleaning or to a Conservatory clean? (Or a Gutter/Soffit/Fascia clean)
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How hard is it to spray detergent on a wall lol.
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Its very easy.
Even you could manage it, to a fashion, after a probationary period.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
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Only about half of them at the moment.
Seemed to have developed an issue after my last Covid shot.
Off to see the cardiologist.
Annoying as work was going well.
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8-12 usually,
My round is very well refined though, yesterday for example was £510 by midday. That was a £250 commercial job, then a £260 front and side render clean of a house. I started at 7:30am on the commercial, then onto the softwash job straight after. I was home by midday. Those days are always amazing!
I now only have 9 days of domestic window cleaning per month.
The rest is commercial and softwashing etc.
How physically hard is a softwash generally compared to say "normal" domestic window cleaning or to a Conservatory clean? (Or a Gutter/Soffit/Fascia clean)
On an easiness scale, 1 being easy, 10 being hard.
Softwashing (Domestic) 2
Conny roofs 7 (can be easier, so many variables)
FSG’s (I hate) 8
Softwashing can be hard though, once a year we do a large commercial building, using gardiner xtreme 35 with a spray tip to cover the building - it’s pretty hard on the arms as it’s heavy with the bigger hose we use. It’s also massive.
Domestic is always really easy.
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Only about half of them at the moment.
Seemed to have developed an issue after my last Covid shot.
Off to see the cardiologist.
Annoying as work was going well.
Doesn’t sound good. What’s changed?
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Only about half of them at the moment.
Seemed to have developed an issue after my last Covid shot.
Off to see the cardiologist.
Annoying as work was going well.
Doesn’t sound good. What’s changed?
I asked the GP and he didn't know.
There is a possibility of developing Myocarditis (inflammation of the heart) from either the vaccinations or from catching covid asymptomatically.
Was out working and had something akin to a heart attack.
Lasted about three hours - could just be stress but it's a bit weird.
Had an ECG, blood tests and a Chest X-ray but there seems to be a lack of joined up thinking and no one seems to have correlated the results.
Have to go up for a CT and Echo scan.
Hopefully it's nothing.
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All the best mate, yep these vaccines do have risks, I know a lot of people my age who won’t have it. Not until there are longer term data patterns on the adverse effects.
It’s a difficult topic.
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I had the first jab,panic attack nearly passed out in the tent :D then bottled the second one.
Already had covid and have a heart condition.
That said, sure what you experienced wasn't an anxiety attack ? Symptoms mimic a heart attack,been to hospital twice with them convinced I was dying.
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All the best mate, yep these vaccines do have risks, I know a lot of people my age who won’t have it. Not until there are longer term data patterns on the adverse effects.
It’s a difficult topic.
Thank you Zesty.
Yes, you're right.
I'm 52, never smoked, don't drink and work outside.
But I have asthma which combined with age makes me 'high risk'.
As long as the vaccine has less chance of killing me than the virus, it's worth the risk.
Could simply be the effects of having caught covid and not realising.
A friend has had both jabs then caught covid about three weeks later. She was really ill too.
Strange days indeed.
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I had the first jab,panic attack nearly passed out in the tent :D then bottled the second one.
Already had covid and have a heart condition.
That said, sure what you experienced wasn't an anxiety attack ? Symptoms mimic a heart attack,been to hospital twice with them convinced I was dying.
Good grief that sounds awful!
I've had panic attacks for about 30 years but his was something different.
My chest seized up for about three hours and was extremely nauseous.
The GP drew a blank - it was far too long for a panic attack and not lethal enough for a heart attack.
Talked to the Cardiologist yesterday and she didn't know either but warned that further scans may not show up anything at all.
You're quite right though - could very easily all be down to stress.
The advice is that if it happens again, call an ambulance and see if they can witness it and work out what it is - if anything?
Take care out there.
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Still waiting for dazmond to come on and tell us about his drum kit and golf gtd
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I had the first jab,panic attack nearly passed out in the tent :D then bottled the second one.
Already had covid and have a heart condition.
That said, sure what you experienced wasn't an anxiety attack ? Symptoms mimic a heart attack,been to hospital twice with them convinced I was dying.
Good grief that sounds awful!
I've had panic attacks for about 30 years but his was something different.
My chest seized up for about three hours and was extremely nauseous.
The GP drew a blank - it was far too long for a panic attack and not lethal enough for a heart attack.
Talked to the Cardiologist yesterday and she didn't know either but warned that further scans may not show up anything at all.
You're quite right though - could very easily all be down to stress.
The advice is that if it happens again, call an ambulance and see if they can witness it and work out what it is - if anything?
Take care out there.
Back pain-stomach pain-memory problems and a lot else can all be down to stress.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
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I had the first jab,panic attack nearly passed out in the tent :D then bottled the second one.
Already had covid and have a heart condition.
That said, sure what you experienced wasn't an anxiety attack ? Symptoms mimic a heart attack,been to hospital twice with them convinced I was dying.
Good grief that sounds awful!
I've had panic attacks for about 30 years but his was something different.
My chest seized up for about three hours and was extremely nauseous.
The GP drew a blank - it was far too long for a panic attack and not lethal enough for a heart attack.
Talked to the Cardiologist yesterday and she didn't know either but warned that further scans may not show up anything at all.
You're quite right though - could very easily all be down to stress.
The advice is that if it happens again, call an ambulance and see if they can witness it and work out what it is - if anything?
Take care out there.
Back pain-stomach pain-memory problems and a lot else can all be down to stress.
Yes indeed and if I'd been a smoker with no family history they might have written it off.
Unfortunately, my gran had a massive heart attack at my age, one killed my grandad at 60, a minor one for my mum at 64 and heart issues for my uncle at 55.
Probably wise to get it checked ;D
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I had the first jab,panic attack nearly passed out in the tent :D then bottled the second one.
Already had covid and have a heart condition.
That said, sure what you experienced wasn't an anxiety attack ? Symptoms mimic a heart attack,been to hospital twice with them convinced I was dying.
Good grief that sounds awful!
I've had panic attacks for about 30 years but his was something different.
My chest seized up for about three hours and was extremely nauseous.
The GP drew a blank - it was far too long for a panic attack and not lethal enough for a heart attack.
Talked to the Cardiologist yesterday and she didn't know either but warned that further scans may not show up anything at all.
You're quite right though - could very easily all be down to stress.
The advice is that if it happens again, call an ambulance and see if they can witness it and work out what it is - if anything?
Take care out there.
Back pain-stomach pain-memory problems and a lot else can all be down to stress.
Yes indeed and if I'd been a smoker with no family history they might have written it off.
Unfortunately, my gran had a massive heart attack at my age, one killed my grandad at 60, a minor one for my mum at 64 and heart issues for my uncle at 55.
Probably wise to get it checked ;D
Same here, grandad died of heart attack at 55. Dad had one at same age and me and my brother born with heart defects. Any little chest pain or palpation and I poo myself and end up having a panic attack.
Strange thing the body, stress can cause all sorts of symptoms.
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Same here, grandad died of heart attack at 55. Dad had one at same age and me and my brother born with heart defects. Any little chest pain or palpation and I poo myself and end up having a panic attack.
Strange thing the body, stress can cause all sorts of symptoms.
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Yes, it is.
I've been reading up on this, as I have a vested interest at the moment and it's very interesting.
There is actual Myocarditis that physically affects the heart to varying degrees and can be fatal if acute but there's also Stress Cardiomyopathy, which is as the name suggests is a stress related condition that mimics the same symptoms.
Hopefully, it's the latter.
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Still waiting for dazmond to come on and tell us about his drum kit and golf gtd
Don't forget his brother who's a millionaire, his current bird who owns her own house and his ex who takes it up the wrong'un!!😁
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⬆️ 🤣🤣🍩
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Not forgetting his part time hours, 15 goretex jackets printed work chits and massive muscles for drumming
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I try to do 830 till 130 5 days a week. Sometimes more sometimes less depending if I've hit my turnover goals
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I’m 8 - 2:30 but I do work at a good pace and work a 4 day week. If I worked at a more leisurely pace it would be a 3:30 finish or if I still wanted a 2:30 finish I would need to work a half day Friday.
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I always start for 9am, so usually leave at 8:30am to get to my start point for 9.
On average I work until about 4-4:30. But if I need to get an area finished I will work to 5:15 if it’s still light.
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9 o’clock is way too late for me I’d feel like half the morning had gone that’s the beauty though you can start when you like and the same for when you’ve had enough,I do feel you need to set yourself a time or target though all to easy to just knock off too early it’s a bad habit to get in to.
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9 o’clock is way too late for me I’d feel like half the morning had gone
You could start at 9 and if you stopped checking the forum 15 times a day you’d probably end up cleaning the same amount if work with the same finish time.
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I’d I had to drop the kids off at school I might start at 9 but I don’t.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
That's an incredible good rate though, I dont think you can say "Not sure what your doing wrong" when you're saying you earn £80 an hour. 120 hours over a 6 week period. 8.66 6week periods in a year so 1039 hours worked yearly . VAT threshold £86k so say you're just under at 85k. £85k over 1039 hours is £81 per hour worked.
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
He did say "we" though so maybe he's bringing a worker to a soletrader gunfight?
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Ha ha yeah that’s right there’s two of us , but…I thought jay was too?
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Well worked out though . That’s why it’s so easy to see how much bull crap is on here
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
my partner is a renal nurse, treating patients with kidney problems , dialisis etc....
she often reminds me that I earn more than the junior doctors on her ward, and whats more I work far less hours and have hardly to next to nothing stress .
when you look at the positives , it realy is a nice position to be in.
we forget how lucky we are.
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I average around 6 hours a day 4 days a week including admin,purifying water,etc...
Turnover is around £48-£50k at present which I can live off quite comfortably.....
Had last Friday off and im off today(going for my third jab today).weathers crap too... ;D
Yes....I'm officially a part timer now.... 8)
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
my partner is a renal nurse, treating patients with kidney problems , dialisis etc....
she often reminds me that I earn more than the junior doctors on her ward, and whats more I work far less hours and have hardly to next to nothing stress .
when you look at the positives , it realy is a nice position to be in.
we forget how lucky we are.
Shes right, of course, but comparing to a junior doctor (notoriously overworked and underpaid) isn’t the best comparison.
Also that same junior doctor, if they went on to consult could easily earn £100k+ staying within the NHS or double that with private work, whereas we have a much lower ceiling with what we can earn.
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
Not doubting it but at a guess I’d say he’s in the top 0.001% earnings wise in this game then.
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It only takes a couple of regular contracts each month with a decent route of windows before you know it you’d be up near it, I can see exactly why he’s doing what he does.
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as long as your happy with your hours and income who cares?every window cleaners situation is different,some have kids and mortgages and want to pay it off early so work harder and longer,some window cleaners charge a lot more because their outgoings are very high or like luxury holidays and/or cars/motorbikes,etc and can charge higher rates......
some guys just want to pay the bills and keep their head above water and dont care about building a business,some just want to top up their pensions or earn enough for a few basic luxuries like a few beers on a friday or saturday night...... :)
no right or wrong.....
have a great day chaps
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Im 8.00am - 4.00pm.
If I finish the actual windows early I'll canvass the rest of the time to do a full 8 hour day.
Get the feeling from reading on here that others are swanning off at 1pm. Not sure how you can afford to do that financially every day. Also lazy in my book if you are doing that all the time. Different if you're semi retired or something.
ive never done a full 8 hour day for many years mate.....short days and 4 day weeks is where im at these days......
i dont take many full weeks off a year(usually around 4 weeks a year)but i have many 3 day weekends and sometimes 4 day weekends like this past week(i worked mon-thurs last week and ill work tues-fri this week)
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4 weeks a year when you’re self employed is a lot Daz.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
my partner is a renal nurse, treating patients with kidney problems , dialisis etc....
she often reminds me that I earn more than the junior doctors on her ward, and whats more I work far less hours and have hardly to next to nothing stress .
when you look at the positives , it realy is a nice position to be in.
we forget how lucky we are.
Shes right, of course, but comparing to a junior doctor (notoriously overworked and underpaid) isn’t the best comparison.
Also that same junior doctor, if they went on to consult could easily earn £100k+ staying within the NHS or double that with private work, whereas we have a much lower ceiling with what we can earn.
Not true
An employed doctor can only ever earn the maximum ceiling for what he does, granted it may be a high ceiling but its still there.
We on the other hand are completely in charge of what we earn and there is no limit on what we can earn if we choose to build a business big enough.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
my partner is a renal nurse, treating patients with kidney problems , dialisis etc....
she often reminds me that I earn more than the junior doctors on her ward, and whats more I work far less hours and have hardly to next to nothing stress .
when you look at the positives , it realy is a nice position to be in.
we forget how lucky we are.
A junior doctor will get holiday pay, sick pay, maternity/paternity pay, pension etc. They won’t need a van for work, they won’t need to buy equipment, they won’t need an accountant etc, etc, etc.
A customer once complained to me that I was on surgeons wages, I responded with some of the above, it had the desired effect, he went back into his house with his tail between his legs.
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He earns way way more than any junior doctor and I know that for a fact.
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Forget junior doctor ask what a fully qualified doctor gets in his pocket after Rishis had his hand in it,it ain’t anymore than some on here and in a lot of cases it’s a lot less.
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
my partner is a renal nurse, treating patients with kidney problems , dialisis etc....
she often reminds me that I earn more than the junior doctors on her ward, and whats more I work far less hours and have hardly to next to nothing stress .
when you look at the positives , it realy is a nice position to be in.
we forget how lucky we are.
Shes right, of course, but comparing to a junior doctor (notoriously overworked and underpaid) isn’t the best comparison.
Also that same junior doctor, if they went on to consult could easily earn £100k+ staying within the NHS or double that with private work, whereas we have a much lower ceiling with what we can earn.
Not true
An employed doctor can only ever earn the maximum ceiling for what he does, granted it may be a high ceiling but its still there.
We on the other hand are completely in charge of what we earn and there is no limit on what we can earn if we choose to build a business big enough.
That’s why I qualified what I said by adding ‘private work’, the earning potential is unlimited. Also I was talking about the comparison to a sole trader/single operator, which has a ceiling to the size that you can grow.
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100k for a junior Doctor lol you are way off believe me no where’s near that figure,I don’t know where you’ve seen that written but that’s 💩.
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100k for a junior Doctor lol you are way off believe me no where’s near that figure,I don’t know where you’ve seen that written but that’s 💩.
Learn to read please.
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100k for a junior Doctor lol you are way off believe me no where’s near that figure,I don’t know where you’ve seen that written but that’s 💩.
I’ll bet you bumped into a consultant and junior Doctor the other week and they gave you all their wage figures, right?
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🤣🤣 clueless
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Not sure what your doing wrong but I work 8- 2 . 4 weeks on 2 weeks off and have to be really careful not to go vat registered again . By 1 o’clock I’ve had enough for the day and can’t wait to finish but we work really hard
What money do you do on average a day, turnover?
Where are you based?
Two of us turnover £500-£600 a day , based in Bedfordshire .
I didn’t realise you were a sole trader. I couldn’t do anymore time on the glass. I find it too boring and feel I’ve got my work /life balance just right. I wouldn’t class myself as lazy . I reckon if your averaging £50 an hour turnover ( not 10
Houses an hour!) then it’s not a bad living soletrader or otherwise.
my partner is a renal nurse, treating patients with kidney problems , dialisis etc....
she often reminds me that I earn more than the junior doctors on her ward, and whats more I work far less hours and have hardly to next to nothing stress .
when you look at the positives , it realy is a nice position to be in.
we forget how lucky we are.
Shes right, of course, but comparing to a junior doctor (notoriously overworked and underpaid) isn’t the best comparison.
Also that same junior doctor, if they went on to consult could easily earn £100k+ staying within the NHS or double that with private work, whereas we have a much lower ceiling with what we can earn.
Its not a comparison as such.
my partner was just merely pointing it out.
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
Not doubting it but at a guess I’d say he’s in the top 0.001% earnings wise in this game then.
I don't know. I think it's a doddle to get there. The reality is that many windowcleaners are either lazy and get to say £30k a year for three easy days a week or daft and charging peanuts. There's some that get 200 customers, think they've made it, stop canvassing and then go into a depression and post on Facebook every time they lose one because they are too idle to knock doors.
Wherever you are in the country, with a bit of acumen and hard work, £50-£60k a year shouldn't be difficult.
And..... customers you pick up through leaflets or door knocking generally don't go onto comparison sites or whatever. They just pay what you ask usually. If one's prices are low, it's because of one's lack of confidence rather than being market driven.
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
Not doubting it but at a guess I’d say he’s in the top 0.001% earnings wise in this game then.
I don't know. I think it's a doddle to get there. The reality is that many windowcleaners are either lazy and get to say £30k a year for three easy days a week or daft and charging peanuts. There's some that get 200 customers, think they've made it, stop canvassing and then go into a depression and post on Facebook every time they lose one because they are too idle to knock doors.
Wherever you are in the country, with a bit of acumen and hard work, £50-£60k a year shouldn't be difficult.
And..... customers you pick up through leaflets or door knocking generally don't go onto comparison sites or whatever. They just pay what you ask usually. If one's prices are low, it's because of one's lack of confidence rather than being market driven.
Before employing, was you over the Vat threshold as a single operator?
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
Not doubting it but at a guess I’d say he’s in the top 0.001% earnings wise in this game then.
I don't know. I think it's a doddle to get there. The reality is that many windowcleaners are either lazy and get to say £30k a year for three easy days a week or daft and charging peanuts. There's some that get 200 customers, think they've made it, stop canvassing and then go into a depression and post on Facebook every time they lose one because they are too idle to knock doors.
Wherever you are in the country, with a bit of acumen and hard work, £50-£60k a year shouldn't be difficult.
And..... customers you pick up through leaflets or door knocking generally don't go onto comparison sites or whatever. They just pay what you ask usually. If one's prices are low, it's because of one's lack of confidence rather than being market driven.
Before employing, was you over the Vat threshold as a single operator?
No. But that was never my plan. But I was at the £50-£60 level.
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
Not doubting it but at a guess I’d say he’s in the top 0.001% earnings wise in this game then.
I don't know. I think it's a doddle to get there. The reality is that many windowcleaners are either lazy and get to say £30k a year for three easy days a week or daft and charging peanuts. There's some that get 200 customers, think they've made it, stop canvassing and then go into a depression and post on Facebook every time they lose one because they are too idle to knock doors.
Wherever you are in the country, with a bit of acumen and hard work, £50-£60k a year shouldn't be difficult.
And..... customers you pick up through leaflets or door knocking generally don't go onto comparison sites or whatever. They just pay what you ask usually. If one's prices are low, it's because of one's lack of confidence rather than being market driven.
Before employing, was you over the Vat threshold as a single operator?
No. But that was never my plan. But I was at the £50-£60 level.
I wouldn’t say getting to £80k+ as a single operator was a ‘doddle’. I know exactly 0 who have achieved that. £50k+ yeh, but not 80.
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Heard it all now. If you’re not earning £85k per year as a part time, sole trader window cleaner you’re doing something wrong ;D
My friend locally is a sole trader, works 8-2pm and has for the last two years had to stop working for a few days every month to stay under. He's pretty much stopped pressure washing because it'll take him over if he does much and turns all new work away. He's quick though.
Not doubting it but at a guess I’d say he’s in the top 0.001% earnings wise in this game then.
I don't know. I think it's a doddle to get there. The reality is that many windowcleaners are either lazy and get to say £30k a year for three easy days a week or daft and charging peanuts. There's some that get 200 customers, think they've made it, stop canvassing and then go into a depression and post on Facebook every time they lose one because they are too idle to knock doors.
Wherever you are in the country, with a bit of acumen and hard work, £50-£60k a year shouldn't be difficult.
And..... customers you pick up through leaflets or door knocking generally don't go onto comparison sites or whatever. They just pay what you ask usually. If one's prices are low, it's because of one's lack of confidence rather than being market driven.
Before employing, was you over the Vat threshold as a single operator?
No. But that was never my plan. But I was at the £50-£60 level.
I wouldn’t say getting to £80k+ as a single operator was a ‘doddle’. I know exactly 0 who have achieved that. £50k+ yeh, but not 80.
A doddle was wrong. I meant really that anyone could achieve it with the right mentality. I’d say 50k was relatively easy over say a 2/3 year period. It just requires hard work and investing in a leafleter once you get too busy to do it yourself.