Window cleaner damaged my tuscan

« **on:** March 16, 2021, 08:04:43 pm »

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=13&t=1922370&i=0

« **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2021, 08:41:37 pm »

Hmmm not sure what I make of that.

Have you watched the video of the cleaner “scratching” the car?

I don’t think that hose has done it. Unless I’m
Missing something.

« **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2021, 08:42:11 pm »

Or the paintwork is as soft as butter. That’s another option.

« **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2021, 08:43:44 pm »

Quote from: EandM on March 16, 2021, 08:04:43 pm

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=13&t=1922370&i=0

Boy is at it.

« **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2021, 08:48:17 pm »

There is a second video that shows him dragging the reel hose across the lower corner! It's fibreglass with a metallic fleck in that reflects differently depending on the angle. I'm not sure if it is particularly hard.
Sorry but to me looks like windy's fault. Either windy needs to see 3 quotes and pay out on receipt of work being done or let his insurance deal with it. Owner shouldn't need to claim on his insurance.

« **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2021, 08:52:06 pm »

the old classic 'it wasn't there this morning because i did not notice it'

« **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2021, 09:26:09 pm »

The only possible thing I can think that would have done that is a Rectus fitting with a valve tap, a hose can scratch paintwork but not to that extent I’ve scratched my van pulling the hose round the back doors and it polished out but they can take some polishing some of them but that wouldn’t be hose that did that lol.

« **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:06:36 pm »

This is the supposed incident around the 1 minute mark.

https://streamable.com/id7lig

« **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:10:01 pm »

Agree, I'd be surprised that the light tough of the hose would have scratched it, but if it had grit on it... then maybe

thing is Richard the hose has touched the car in the same area as the damage.....

Darran

« **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2021, 10:52:45 pm »

Yeah Smudger grit would have scratched it but even so I can’t see it being that bad that looks like someone’s keyed it to me.

« **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:04:40 pm »

The very fine scratches are like the ones I have on the rear of my van from time to time pulling the hose off the reel without me seeing what I’m doing,from that I can’t see that he would have done that deep scratch though.
Not being funny but I would never reel out like that imo that is bad practise,I would reel out to the side and away from that car and make sure I had enough before I started pulling mind your he did look knackered 🤣🤣🤣🤣

« **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:05:58 pm »

Probably the last job of the day the owner thinks to himself rather than pay best part of a grand for that 3 tone paint job I’ll get the window cleaner to pay for it more like.

« **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:25:18 pm »

it is rather deep for a hose, also we only have the car owners word he told the windy to be careful...

If that scratch was there before then the customers Christmas's have all come at once - mind you looking at the windy I don't think will have 2 pennies to rub together... and no insurance either ( thats very presumptive of me !! )

Darran

« **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:29:34 pm »

He's taking close up pictures of that same panel 2 days before accusing someone of scratching it... iffy to me.
He could of easily edited the picture of the panel without the scratches so its zoomed in and you can't see the scratches. In fact it looks like he has.
Plus the angle of some of those scratches doesn't match the angle of the pull of the hose. He's deffo taking the pee.
I would of told him to do one, ugly little car anyway and he's crying like a b!tch over a couple of poxy scratches.

« **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2021, 11:33:54 pm »

I hate to think the state of the paintwork after a week on the road with stone chips etc, just imagine if he drove past a c
gritter he'd need a complete respray

Darran

« **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2021, 07:12:55 am »

Quote from: Jonny 87 on March 16, 2021, 10:06:36 pm

This is the supposed incident around the 1 minute mark.

https://streamable.com/id7lig

Looks like Dazmond really needs those gyms to open up!

« **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2021, 07:26:06 am »

Quote from: Smudger on March 16, 2021, 10:10:01 pm

Agree, I'd be surprised that the light tough of the hose would have scratched it, but if it had grit on it... then maybe

thing is Richard the hose has touched the car in the same area as the damage.....

Darran

i was meaning the logic of 'i didn't notice it this morning so it must have been you' isn't right.

thats the evidence (and video) that the owner uses to blame the windy

whether the guy did it, or not...

the hose touching the paintwork doesnt look significant enough for me, and like others have said the angle of the scratches etc.

also you would expect car paintwork to be able to withstand that type of thing. it doesn't look like the windy has been anything other than careful in his work.

« **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2021, 07:27:49 am »

Really poor hose management on his part, the guys obviously having his pants down but no sympathy from me the way he didn't seem to take any care going past the vehicles.

« **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2021, 08:06:40 am »

« **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2021, 08:08:36 am »

Is that you EandM?

« **Reply #20 on:** March 17, 2021, 08:48:31 am »

Quote from: Phil J on March 17, 2021, 07:27:49 am

Really poor hose management on his part, the guys obviously having his pants down but no sympathy from me the way he didn't seem to take any care going past the vehicles.

Maybe I need to watch the video again. I didn’t see that when I watched it. I wasn’t giving it my full attention though... wasn’t the most gripping home movies I’ve seen... not exactly Ozzy man is he

« **Reply #21 on:** March 17, 2021, 09:02:41 am »

Quote from: Richard iSparkle on March 17, 2021, 08:48:31 am

Quote from: Phil J on March 17, 2021, 07:27:49 am
Really poor hose management on his part, the guys obviously having his pants down but no sympathy from me the way he didn't seem to take any care going past the vehicles.

Maybe I need to watch the video again. I didn’t see that when I watched it. I wasn’t giving it my full attention though... wasn’t the most gripping home movies I’ve seen... not exactly Ozzy man is he

He dragged the hose against the bodywork. Lazy!

« **Reply #22 on:** March 17, 2021, 09:11:58 am »

He looked like he works for someone else 🤣🤣 either that or he was having a bad day,as said pulling the hose against or near vehicles like that is asking for grief especially with cameras about the days of having a pee round the side of a house are long gone,cameras everywhere these days lol.

« **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2021, 09:28:46 am »

Quote from: Soupy on March 17, 2021, 08:08:36 am

Is that you EandM?

No Soupy, I'm considerably thinner.

« **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2021, 12:23:57 pm »

its an interesting thread - how some say he did it accidently on purpose

some of these guys really think they are superior to others because they get a loan to buy a flash motor

Darran

« **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2021, 01:14:42 pm »

I don't think I've ever read a Pistonheads thread populated by so many, complete and utter whingers.
They clearly all lead perfect, sheltered existences and are so much better than the rest of us.
I doubt many of them have friends though.
Half of them sound about 12!

« **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2021, 01:18:43 pm »

Quote from: Smudger on March 17, 2021, 12:23:57 pm

its an interesting thread - how some say he did it accidently on purpose

some of these guys really think they are superior to others because they get a loan to buy a flash motor

Darran

That’s an old banger that car blimey I can remember seeing them around when I had bum fluff,it’s a 4-5 ltr V8 they had a terrible reputation for always going wrong those TVRs.

« **Reply #27 on:** March 17, 2021, 02:49:23 pm »

I see he's pulled the video on advice from another pis-head.

Tempted to post the link to this thread...

« **Reply #28 on:** March 17, 2021, 02:49:55 pm »

Quote from: NWH on March 17, 2021, 01:18:43 pm

Quote from: Smudger on March 17, 2021, 12:23:57 pm
its an interesting thread - how some say he did it accidently on purpose

some of these guys really think they are superior to others because they get a loan to buy a flash motor

Darran
That’s an old banger that car blimey I can remember seeing them around when I had bum fluff,it’s a 4-5 ltr V8 they had a terrible reputation for always going wrong those TVRs.

There were no V8 powered Tuscans as it was a later car.
Are you thinking of the older Griffith and the Chimera?

« **Reply #29 on:** March 17, 2021, 02:52:07 pm »

Yeah Griffith whatever it is it’s a TVR the best thing about that is the colour he probably loves it good luck to him,they are about as reliable as a teenager.

« **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2021, 02:59:19 pm »

I love the older Rover V8 TVRs and the wedges from the eighties too.
Very low tech and fix with a hammer.
I find that very appealing.

« **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2021, 03:11:47 pm »

The wc agreed to pay, the owner of the car is a complete arsehole for putting the vid on line, absolutely no need. Accidents happen, and as long as the wc deals appropriately then that should be an end to it, no need to potentially damage the blokes business..

« **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2021, 06:03:02 pm »

More to the point car is a pile of poop and that colour needs changing any way

its a tough one that hard to see if the hose hose touched the car the wc looked a bit lazy so could have pulled it tite across the car

« **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2021, 06:55:10 pm »

Theres absolutely no way that the hose would of caused all them scratches!esp the deep long scratch on the bumper....

The window cleaner is foolhardy though...he should of made sure he didnt touch the car at all with his hose when he was dragging it....

Chipsaway would charge less than £100 to get rid of the scratches IMO...

« **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2021, 07:14:03 pm »

Terrible design you would get scratches just driving it normally the way the rear bumper is directly above the rear tyre,they sound good but you couldn’t daily something like that sounds like he’s running it on a budget trying to get that poor sod to cough up.

« **Reply #35 on:** March 18, 2021, 06:28:38 am »

Ha, he's linked this thread himself.

He reckons there's some "absolute weapons" on here. I suppose that's fair enough

This made me chuckle though:

« **Reply #36 on:** March 18, 2021, 07:11:41 am »

The light horizontal scratches could easily have been him. I’ve done it myself and had to polish out some scratches on a customers car . Taught me a lesson
But the deep vertical scratch I would say no way. I reckon he knows about that one and couldn’t believe his luck when the others showed up in the same spot . Now he can blame someone for all of them

« **Reply #37 on:** March 18, 2021, 07:45:31 am »

It's now up to 10 pages!

The 100 Years War was resolved quicker than this.

My favourite quote so far, " Have you checked the mark for any hose DNA. It could help prove it one way or another. "

Give it a day or so and David Caruso will be along. And his sunglasses.

« **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2021, 08:37:00 am »

His reason for taking a close up photo of that same panel just days before was to "admire"the shine. Rubbish. If someone is taking a picture to admire the shine on their newly polished car, why would they take a close up of the rear wheel arch???
Seriously what are the chances of him taking a close up snapshot of that exact same spot 2 days before accusing someone of scratchings it.
Also to adjust my original post on him editing the photo, I simply meant he slightly cropped the picture so you couldn't see the scratches ( or that large main scratch ) to make the panel appear perfect days before. Easy to do.
Reality is he was taking pictures of any imperfections on the vehicle that needed sorting and by pot luck the window cleaner skims roughly the same area and he siezes his chance.
In 12 years of window cleaning I have run my hose across all sort of cars including a Bentley and never scratched a single one.

The best thing about that thread is the references to us "low paid" window cleaners. Lol 😆

« **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2021, 09:24:36 am »

Window cleaner was 100% responsible, even if he didn’t cause THE scratch (he did) his clumsiness landed him in this mess.

OP on the piston heads thread comes across as a total bellend.

More interestingly, he seems to have picked up that a certain poster on here, who posts multiple times per thread, is completely clueless on all things cars and other subjects. Wonder who that could be.......

« **Reply #40 on:** March 18, 2021, 02:32:44 pm »

Hi Ya 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if that bloke has ever thought about angle grinding the roof off and using it as a toilet.

« **Reply #41 on:** March 18, 2021, 03:32:13 pm »

I have scratched a car with my hose before I wonder why they seem to ride up on anything when your not looking and snagged on anything too
As a serious aside I have done a very deep scratch on a car the end cap was missing on my fibre glass pole and it scored like a knife through butter leaving a large long scratch
Not the worst
When I first started my boss let a triple 20 ladder slid down the wall and onto the roof of this Porsche you could sit in the crease it made the boss got me to put the ladder away ASAP and leave pre cameras but you’d have thought early on a Sunday morning someone would have came out with all the noise !!

« **Reply #42 on:** March 18, 2021, 03:51:32 pm »

Eleven pages well worth a 10 min read
Some of the anti window cleaners insults are ace. Moron ,oafish ,stupid ,idiot ,
We are a diverse bunch I know a cleaner with two ba degrees a windie who trained to be a doctor and so on just shows how to lowly the fools think we are here is my pride and joy Tvr man

« **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2021, 06:33:16 pm »

I may be wrong I frequently am however I do think that it is caused by the hose I have done similar scratches in my youth especially when dragging at and angle like this

« **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2021, 06:37:28 pm »

The hose does scratch paintwork I’ve done it myself at first I blamed the people where I take it to get it washed,I was sure it was grit in the sponges they use or something but as time went on I could see the marks appearing round by the back doors etc.
Grit on a hose is like glass it will definitely scratch but that deep scratch on that car I would have to disagree with.

« **Reply #45 on:** March 19, 2021, 02:04:34 pm »

After reading this thread, my hose management skills are bang on this week, cars and garden knomes have nothing to fear, I'm almost paranoid

« **Reply #46 on:** March 19, 2021, 02:17:56 pm »

Who remembers the one about the window cleaner falling off the sloping bay window roof and landing arse first through the windscreen of a brand new Golf?
Would loved to have seen that one on camera. Now that would have been worth posting. This guy with the TVR is a complete berk with a tiny cock.

« **Reply #47 on:** March 19, 2021, 03:29:35 pm »

I would of asked him to move it, but i wouldn't of been doing the job with access like that anyway.

« **Reply #48 on:** March 19, 2021, 04:06:09 pm »

I am not blaming the window cleaner at all but I would have looked at that situation and said could you move it as well,some people out there are just waiting for an opportunity like that.

« **Reply #49 on:** March 19, 2021, 04:06:54 pm »

I've had a picture in my mind what NWH looks like and this geezer is him

« **Reply #50 on:** March 19, 2021, 04:09:25 pm »

🤣🤣🤣 yeah he’s my twin he looks like he’s had a bad life I don’t know about day lol.

« **Reply #51 on:** March 19, 2021, 04:32:55 pm »

Quote from: NWH on March 19, 2021, 04:09:25 pm

🤣🤣🤣 yeah he’s my twin he looks like he’s had a bad life I don’t know about day lol.

He also sounds like a bell end, you must be identical twins.

« **Reply #52 on:** March 19, 2021, 05:50:06 pm »

It’s belled end a big belled end, like a reach-it sleeve.

« **Reply #53 on:** March 19, 2021, 09:29:24 pm »

" Thread locked as requested by the OP.

Time to move on...... "

We all thought that days ago