mb 115

« **on:** December 04, 2015, 04:54:38 pm »

Hi people. So i need some more resin and I'm just wondering what everyone is using at the moment. Is the Best still daqua mb 115?

Thanks

« **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2015, 07:07:40 pm »

get it from gardiners mate.its the better quality mb 115.

« **Reply #2 on:** December 04, 2015, 07:24:14 pm »

unger

« **Reply #3 on:** December 04, 2015, 07:49:03 pm »

I'm with the King, £59 from WCW!

« **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2015, 01:50:12 pm »

Thanks for Your replies . Gonna buy from gardiners. Is the 5 ltr tub mb 115? Thanks again

« **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2015, 01:52:45 pm »

whys it better from gardiners?
do they get a different batch with the same label or something??

« **Reply #6 on:** December 07, 2015, 04:00:24 pm »

Quote from: mufcglen on December 07, 2015, 01:52:45 pm

whys it better from gardiners?
do they get a different batch with the same label or something??

yep

« **Reply #7 on:** December 07, 2015, 05:57:18 pm »

sounds like my son, he wants 14 laceup dr martin boots for xmas, he thinks you can only buy them from the dr martin official site @ £130. looked around and got them off amazon for £83. they are actually from the official dr martin warehouse but being sold new by another company nearly £50 cheaper.

most main reputable companys resin mb 115 will be the same quality, but people seem to go with sites they are familliar with, even though they can be saving money towards other items.

its the delivery prices which can actually make the price higher, get some other things if it makes the delivery price disapear

« **Reply #8 on:** December 07, 2015, 09:23:27 pm »

apparently there are 2 grades of tulsion mb 115 and alex sells the better grade stuff albeit slightly more expensive.my bag from alex has defo lasted longer than the resin i got from pure freedom for sure.its over 3 months since i changed my resin and still no tds creeping up yet.(DI only)

im happy

« **Reply #9 on:** December 07, 2015, 10:28:34 pm »

Quote from: dazmond on December 07, 2015, 09:23:27 pm

apparently there are 2 grades of tulsion mb 115 and alex sells the better grade stuff albeit slightly more expensive.my bag from alex has defo lasted longer than the resin i got from pure freedom for sure.its over 3 months since i changed my resin and still no tds creeping up yet.(DI only)

im happy

Interesting; what's your tap water TDS and how much pure do you produce?

« **Reply #10 on:** December 07, 2015, 11:21:33 pm »

tap TDS 30-35

7000-8000L produced a month(approx)

« **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2015, 01:28:42 am »

Quote from: mufcglen on December 07, 2015, 01:52:45 pm

whys it better from gardiners?
do they get a different batch with the same label or something??

Because Mr Gardiner said so... OK! Apparently there are two grades as Desmond said but I would have thought the product would be clearly marked if this was the case.

« **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am »

Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you.

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« **Reply #13 on:** December 10, 2015, 01:39:13 pm »

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am

Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.

so stick that in your Di vessel and smoke it daz you haven't a clue lol.
Nice of you to clear that up Phil, what would you recommend the best all rounder resin to use, don't think the forum has ever had a resin specialist

« **Reply #14 on:** December 10, 2015, 01:44:21 pm »

So Gardeners and Daqua have been selling us 'The Kings New Clothes' tut tut and their subjects have fallen for it.
Come on then you two explain it to us.
Have you conned us?
Mart

« **Reply #15 on:** December 10, 2015, 02:02:40 pm »

Quote from: dazmond on December 07, 2015, 09:23:27 pm

apparently there are 2 grades of tulsion mb 115 and alex sells the better grade stuff albeit slightly more expensive.my bag from alex has defo lasted longer than the resin i got from pure freedom for sure.its over 3 months since i changed my resin and still no tds creeping up yet.(DI only)

im happy

I find it hard to believe that gardiners sells better tulsion mb115

What a load of rubbish!!
I've been buying mine from cleaning warehouse for years with no problems

« **Reply #16 on:** December 10, 2015, 02:13:55 pm »

i think you may be getting mixed up with what alex may have been telling you, there is two different kinds of tulsion mb resin but ones called mb115 and ones called mb111 which is a lower spec resin apparantly, as Phil has said though regarding mb115 its as it is and not sold in different qualitys so to speak!

« **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2015, 02:49:49 pm »

Phil
Great to have someone who may be able to explain about resin on here.
I can see MB111 described as producing Pure Water and the MB115 described as producing Ultra Pure Water
Does the MB111 achieve 000 TDS but not last as long as the MB115, or does it not purify the water as low as 000?
There are loads on here who use water well above 000 for cleaning windows could they use the lower spec resin if they are not bothered about achieving water at TDS 000?
Would you recommend a specific grade for hard or soft water as there is a massive difference throughout the country from as low as 30 TDS up to above 400?

« **Reply #18 on:** December 10, 2015, 04:04:01 pm »

Ion exchange resin is a very technical chemical product and each resin generally has its own application and use. Individual window cleaners often prefer a particular brand and stick with it and indeed their supplier. That's fine. To clarify: MB111 does have a lower spec than MB115 but both will pull down to 000 tds - MB111 will work just as well but does not last as long. MB111 or equivalent is often used by glass / glazing manufacturers. There is a wide variation of TDS across the UK which is where good virgin mixed bed resin (MB) comes into play. MB115 on average should produce 20% more output than MB111 and other resins not of the same standard quality or high specification at an average input TDS of 333. BUT MB115 is not 20% more expensive. The lower the input tds - the longer it should last.
We will be bringing a new intermediate product to the market early next year -Tulsion 1060 - that might appeal to those looking for something a bit cheaper. It will be available from our web site or distributor network. Glad to help. Regards.

« **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2015, 04:07:07 pm »

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am

Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.

The price for Tulsion MB-115 is £78 inc VAT and delivery in your on line shop. Why is it more expensive to buy from you than Daqua, as you are the importer?

« **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2015, 04:54:23 pm »

Quote from: Bungle on December 10, 2015, 04:07:07 pm

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am
Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.

The price for Tulsion MB-115 is £78 inc VAT and delivery in your on line shop. Why is it more expensive to buy from you than Daqua, as you are the importer?

I'm not sure individual users or buyers are not their market. Yeah sure the will sell us a bag or two but at retail, otherwise Gardiners and Daqua who must order the stuff cheaper but in bigger volumes, might not hold stock.
Tony

« **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2015, 06:35:09 pm »

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am

Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.

apparently there is 2 different batches of tulsion mb115 being imported according to alex which would explain the poor quality of some of the bags depending where you buy it from

« **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2015, 09:22:47 pm »

Quote from: p1w1 on December 10, 2015, 01:39:13 pm

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am
Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.
so stick that in your Di vessel and smoke it daz you haven't a clue lol.
Nice of you to clear that up Phil, what would you recommend the best all rounder resin to use, don't think the forum has ever had a resin specialist

read my other posts on another thread mate

« **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:02:57 pm »

A quote from another post.

"Hi Alan

That is two different types of MB-115!

Which is why going forward (but not happened quite yet) they will be differentiated by the addition of the suffix SB to the superior supply. Hopefully this will enable clients to make an informed choice about their resin supply - the superior supply may cost a pound or so more, but it will be guaranteed to perform to the usual high Tulsion standard.

Currently there are two wholesale importers bringing Tulsion products into the UK. The product specification differs between the products imported by the wholesaler that we use and the wholesaler that most others use. The wholesale importer that we source through has a quality-checked and assured strong base resin based on a tight manufacturing and testing specification whereas the other wholesale importer supplies resin without a set specification meaning the quality cannot be guaranteed.

Each year we see a few posts popping up on forums stating that the quality of MB-115 is of not of a high standard. When the wholesale importer has checked on the supply of 'this' resin they find that it has not come from the batches they import and are always from the batches imported by the other wholesale importer which are of a lesser specification.

Hope that has clarified this

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« **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:06:34 pm »

Quote from: dazmond on December 10, 2015, 09:22:47 pm

Quote from: p1w1 on December 10, 2015, 01:39:13 pm
Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am
Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.
so stick that in your Di vessel and smoke it daz you haven't a clue lol.
Nice of you to clear that up Phil, what would you recommend the best all rounder resin to use, don't think the forum has ever had a resin specialist

read my other posts on another thread mate

my apologies I will shut up and go eat my hat

« **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:36:40 pm »

Quote from: MNWC on December 10, 2015, 10:02:57 pm

A quote from another post.

"Hi Alan

That is two different types of MB-115!

Which is why going forward (but not happened quite yet) they will be differentiated by the addition of the suffix SB to the superior supply. Hopefully this will enable clients to make an informed choice about their resin supply - the superior supply may cost a pound or so more, but it will be guaranteed to perform to the usual high Tulsion standard.

Currently there are two wholesale importers bringing Tulsion products into the UK. The product specification differs between the products imported by the wholesaler that we use and the wholesaler that most others use. The wholesale importer that we source through has a quality-checked and assured strong base resin based on a tight manufacturing and testing specification whereas the other wholesale importer supplies resin without a set specification meaning the quality cannot be guaranteed.

Each year we see a few posts popping up on forums stating that the quality of MB-115 is of not of a high standard. When the wholesale importer has checked on the supply of 'this' resin they find that it has not come from the batches they import and are always from the batches imported by the other wholesale importer which are of a lesser specification.

Hope that has clarified this
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The cogs in my head are slowly turning but I do remember Alex mentioning the MB/SB.
If it's branded Tulsion MB-115 then you should expect to receive the same standard of product from one buyer to the next. If this isn't the case then it should be reported to trading standards.
I would be interested to know where Ungers resin comes from and if there is a high standard of quality control.

« **Reply #26 on:** December 11, 2015, 12:41:52 pm »

Following on from yesterday's discussion, I will re-iterate that there is only ONE grade of MB115 produced by Thermax. So it does not matter where you buy it, every bag will be exactly the same as the next. Each resin product can only have one MSDS and Data sheet. Attached are the MSDS and Product Data sheet for MB115 as produced and certified by Thermax. Any supplier should be able to provide both of these documents along with the product they sell. You would then be able to compare with any other Tulsion MB115 being sold. It should always be the same.
Tulsion 1060 will be available early in the new year. Attached is the data sheet for that product so that you can make your own comparison.

« **Reply #27 on:** December 11, 2015, 03:47:33 pm »

im confused lol, are you saying gardiner and daqua are telling fibs?
i'd love this cleared up for my next order of mb115 and id be happy to pay abit more if its better quality and longer lasting!!

« **Reply #28 on:** December 13, 2015, 10:39:39 pm »

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 11, 2015, 12:41:52 pm

Following on from yesterday's discussion, I will re-iterate that there is only ONE grade of MB115 produced by Thermax. So it does not matter where you buy it, every bag will be exactly the same as the next. Each resin product can only have one MSDS and Data sheet. Attached are the MSDS and Product Data sheet for MB115 as produced and certified by Thermax. Any supplier should be able to provide both of these documents along with the product they sell. You would then be able to compare with any other Tulsion MB115 being sold. It should always be the same.
Tulsion 1060 will be available early in the new year. Attached is the data sheet for that product so that you can make your own comparison.

The post from MNWC would disagree with what you are saying surely.

« **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2015, 01:18:52 pm »

MB-1060
Nuclear Grade Resin. Wow! Going to get some. Tell all my custys I'm using Nuclear Resin. They'll be delighted when their frames are glowing in the dark.

Bye Bye Vision!

« **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2015, 05:37:51 pm »

Just a heads up really about www.resin-products.com.

I purchased some MB115 from ebay at £62.50 for a 25 Litre bag, delivered.

A few months later I got this email....

"Hi Gary

You have bought Tulsion MB115 from me when i had the products listed ion eBay. I now stock this and many other items directly on my company website;
www.resin-products.com

I have over 50pallets in stock and all prices include local UK delivery. Please visit the website for further information.

You will also see our new products RP60 which the equivalent grade to Tulsion MB115 but alot cheaper.

Any questions please do not hesitate to contact me

Raj"

The resin was/is fine, seems good quality, but the seller on ebay is not the same person as the one listed above and i was originally told he had got hold of 2 containers full of resin so I am just doubting the back story.

« **Reply #31 on:** December 15, 2015, 10:32:38 pm »

Quote from: Bungle on December 10, 2015, 04:07:07 pm

Quote from: Phil Goscombe on December 10, 2015, 11:48:34 am
Good morning everyone - you probably won't have heard of me before or indeed Resin Products Limited.
Resin Products Limited is the only official importer and wholesaler of Tulsion MB115 in the UK. Supplying 90% of all product sold.
WE CAN CATEGORICALLY STATE THAT THERE IS NOT TWO DIFFERENT GRADES OF MB115
We have access to every batch number produced by the manufacturer.
The manufacturer of Tulsion MB115 -Thermax maintains a very strict quality control system and are legally required to maintain a library of samples from every batch they make. If anyone has any issue with Tulsion MB115 resin supplied directly into the UK then please supply the batch number and we will check it out for you. Contact us on 01543 416222 or 0121 796 6450.
Alternatively, go to our web site www.resin-products.com and send us an email - don't forget to have a look in the shop.

The price for Tulsion MB-115 is £78 inc VAT and delivery in your on line shop. Why is it more expensive to buy from you than Daqua, as you are the importer?

It has to be, otherwise he'd have nobody to distribute to. I wouldn't buy from a distributor who would then undercut me.

« **Reply #32 on:** December 15, 2015, 10:51:11 pm »

Hmmm...so are we saying there is more than one wholesaler importing mb115 in the uk now or not?
Alex seems to have gone very quite on the subject now

« **Reply #33 on:** December 15, 2015, 11:50:15 pm »

I'm more confused than ever

« **Reply #34 on:** December 16, 2015, 07:20:39 pm »

is the purefreedom resin good resin anyone know

« **Reply #35 on:** December 16, 2015, 07:52:29 pm »

To be honest I find it really strange that someone with a handful of posts comes on the forum and then everyone instantly believes that what he says is the absolute truth.

Certain long standing suppliers/forum members come here and offer free, valuable advice and the same people who believe the above use it as a chance to question and diss the suppliers who have a proven track record of helping people out, eg Daqua/Gardiners and anyone else.

Sure these companies are all here to promote and help sell their product lines, but surely it is better to get the actual facts before having a go at any one of them.

« **Reply #36 on:** January 12, 2016, 10:44:50 am »

Good day to you all.
Back in December we had a dialogue about resin, quality, suppliers and what might be the best to buy.
There are ONLY two importers of Tulsion - Daqua (who work closely with Gardiners) and ourselves (the largest importer) Resin Products Limited.
There are two Tulsion Products MB111 and MB115 - both work well but MB115 is a stronger product that lasts longer and out perform most other resins both in laboratory tests and in the field.

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« **Reply #37 on:** January 19, 2016, 03:43:35 pm »

Quote from: ♦ChumBucket♦ on December 15, 2015, 11:50:15 pm

I'm more confused than ever

I'm still confused!
Anyway has anyone tried this RP60 "window cleaning resin"?

« **Reply #38 on:** January 19, 2016, 05:36:02 pm »

All I know is the quality has been up an down for at least the last year, probably two.

« **Reply #39 on:** January 19, 2016, 05:50:33 pm »

Im not a heavy resin user as I only get through 10 ltrs every 12-18 months since using a 4040.
But I've only ever used Tulsion mb-115 from Daqua (6 years) and I honestly have never had any problems whatsoever.
And I calibrate my TDS meter fairly regularly so I know I'm getting accurate PPM readings.

« **Reply #40 on:** January 19, 2016, 05:52:32 pm »

Quote from: andyM on January 19, 2016, 05:50:33 pm

Im not a heavy resin user as I only get through 10 ltrs every 12-18 months since using a 4040.
But I've only ever used Tulsion mb-115 from Daqua (6 years) and I honestly have never had any problems whatsoever.
And I calibrate my TDS meter fairly regularly so I know I'm getting accurate PPM readings.

You wouldn't notice any difference using such small quantities. I've had some right rubbish from all the top suppliers to.

« **Reply #41 on:** January 19, 2016, 05:53:31 pm »

Quote from: ♦ChumBucket♦ on January 19, 2016, 05:52:32 pm

Quote from: andyM on January 19, 2016, 05:50:33 pm
Im not a heavy resin user as I only get through 10 ltrs every 12-18 months since using a 4040.
But I've only ever used Tulsion mb-115 from Daqua (6 years) and I honestly have never had any problems whatsoever.
And I calibrate my TDS meter fairly regularly so I know I'm getting accurate PPM readings.

You wouldn't notice any difference using such small quantities. I've had some right rubbish from all the top suppliers to.

Fair enough.