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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by Soupy on Today at 02:55:53 pm »
Quote from: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on Today at 02:51:47 pm
Just buy one, simple. Why you on here lecturing if you're so convinced, it's a no brainer surly? So, what you waiting for?

To be fair, Vin asked some sensible questions that only someone with experience of fitting and using a wfp system in an electric van would know.

It's not his fault others with no actual experience have chipped in their 2p, regurgitating lies spread by oil companies.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Advice please on the gardiners clx 22
« Last post by Slacky on Today at 02:51:50 pm »
Quote from: dreabrige on Today at 02:00:39 pm
About 90 of people feel some fatigue during breast cancer treatment cialis online These data are based on intakes of soy food rather than over the counter isoflavone supplements

And £100 says you’re about to get booted.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by ֍Winp®oClean֍ on Today at 02:51:47 pm »
Just buy one, simple. Why you on here lecturing if you're so convinced, it's a no brainer surly? So, what you waiting for?
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by Soupy on Today at 02:10:12 pm »
Quote from: michael mckeary on Today at 01:36:48 pm
I think they are great in theory but in reality they are rubbish.

Have you tried one in reality?
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Advice please on the gardiners clx 22
« Last post by dreabrige on Today at 02:00:39 pm »
About 90 of people feel some fatigue during breast cancer treatment cialis online These data are based on intakes of soy food rather than over the counter isoflavone supplements
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by Perfect Windows on Today at 01:53:24 pm »
The misunderstanding about battery life was disproven with data.

The misunderstanding about battery warranties was disproven with data.

So we'll ignore them, not even acknowledge the point and move on to the next item of anti-EV propaganda. Fires. And I answered that earlier in the thread. So nobody needs to look it up, I'll paste it here.

'PS. My favourite stats on fires come from an article about Tusker fleet management. (1)  They have 30,000 EVs and "the company’s insurance records show that not a single one of the EVs on its fleet have caught fire." (2) "A study by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency backs up Tusker’s findings. It concluded that EVs are 20 times less likely to catch fire than petrol and diesel cars.
Both quotes from an excellent article at https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/tusker-fleet-data-reveals-the-truth-about-ev-fires '


What's next? "Raw material mining"? "Not recyclable" ? "Charged using fossil fuels". "Worse than keeping your old car"? Which to choose, which to choose?

Vin

PS, Luton car park fire caused by...   drum roll...   a diesel vehicle. BAN THEM!!!! WHO WILL THINK OF THE CHILDREN???!!
(source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68627759 )

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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by michael mckeary on Today at 01:36:48 pm »
Quote from: Perfect Windows on Today at 11:31:08 am
Quote from: michael mckeary on Today at 08:10:22 am
Quote from: Soupy on Today at 05:35:26 am
Interesting watch:

https://youtu.be/mVGuRPSKb3U

He is just a mouth piece for EVs. He doesn't mention the UK only truck maker went bust last week. The problem is the battery is only guaranteed for 8 years if lucky. If they had faith in them then they would increase this to at least 12 years but some have reduced this to 6 years. It seems like EVs will be a throw away market so good for manufacturing.

You may need some evidence to back up your opinions.

Here's some evidence that batteries aren't "throw away". If you read it, you might just change your mind. https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/the-truth-about-electric-car-battery-degradation-apYqu1y6IYnr

As for "The problem is the battery is only guaranteed for 8 years if lucky.", the article also contains this:



Which might also change your mind. But I won't hold my breath.

But it's OK. The more people refuse to accept that EVs are an excellent solution for 90% of drivers, the cheaper EVs will be secondhand. Given I only plan to buy secondhand, the more anti-EV propaganda, the better.

Vin

Probably because I'm a retired FF and have seen metal burning at over 2,000 degrees. Like a lithium ion fire which can burn at 2500 degrees. This can burn down carparks like the Luton Airport fire. Once we have a fire on channel tunnel, Ferry or any long tunnel then they will be banned. I think they are great in theory but in reality they are rubbish. That's my opinion but hybrid seem to be making ground. Maybe when salt batteries come out things will change. I would like them to do well but can't see it at the moment.
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by Perfect Windows on Today at 11:31:08 am »
Quote from: michael mckeary on Today at 08:10:22 am
Quote from: Soupy on Today at 05:35:26 am
Interesting watch:

https://youtu.be/mVGuRPSKb3U

He is just a mouth piece for EVs. He doesn't mention the UK only truck maker went bust last week. The problem is the battery is only guaranteed for 8 years if lucky. If they had faith in them then they would increase this to at least 12 years but some have reduced this to 6 years. It seems like EVs will be a throw away market so good for manufacturing.

You may need some evidence to back up your opinions.

Here's some evidence that batteries aren't "throw away". If you read it, you might just change your mind. https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/the-truth-about-electric-car-battery-degradation-apYqu1y6IYnr

As for "The problem is the battery is only guaranteed for 8 years if lucky.", the article also contains this:



Which might also change your mind. But I won't hold my breath.

But it's OK. The more people refuse to accept that EVs are an excellent solution for 90% of drivers, the cheaper EVs will be secondhand. Given I only plan to buy secondhand, the more anti-EV propaganda, the better.

Vin
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by michael mckeary on Today at 08:10:22 am »
Quote from: Soupy on Today at 05:35:26 am
Interesting watch:

https://youtu.be/mVGuRPSKb3U

He is just a mouth piece for EVs. He doesn't mention the UK only truck maker went bust last week. The problem is the battery is only guaranteed for 8 years if lucky. If they had faith in them then they would increase this to at least 12 years but some have reduced this to 6 years. It seems like EVs will be a throw away market so good for manufacturing. 
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Window Cleaning Forum / Re: Electric vans
« Last post by Soupy on Today at 05:35:26 am »
Interesting watch:

https://youtu.be/mVGuRPSKb3U
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