wot do u think of me website ?

« **on:** February 23, 2008, 05:34:00 pm »

hi all wot do u think of my website ? www.cleanesteam.co.uk

« **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2008, 05:48:52 pm »

Nice see its a Sitewizard design the same mob who designed mine

You need a Links page

« **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2008, 06:38:36 pm »

One of the best i've seen - well done mate!

« **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2008, 07:59:44 pm »

Nice looking site, are the prices for real?

« **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:12:55 pm »

Lovely looking site!

« **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:14:48 pm »

Like it, what did it cost?

« **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:15:15 pm »

websites good. prices are ridiculously cheap

Dan

« **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:28:52 pm »

Nice site, but I couldn't see your link page, I recognize that photo though.

Regards

S

« **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:34:25 pm »

Actually, did you get all of your images from our site??

http://www.sdccleaning.co.uk

S

« **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:38:23 pm »

And even my writing under the dust mites !!!!

Not happy about this.

S

You have just nicked stuff from our site.

« **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:46:53 pm »

Unless you have copy right any tom dick and harry can pinch your stuff as here with a new cleaner to the site.

Cleanstream, exprienced cleaners on this sit will share info with new guys coming on board to help them out.

It is polite to ask first rather than steel.
You may find people reluctant to help in the future.

« **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2008, 08:54:44 pm »

Mark and I did a lot of work in sourcing out images, and correctly stated, if someone asks you than the chances are that you will become more receptive with your comments.

I can't believe that they didn't even bother to use their own words under my dust mite image.

God, I hope no one in this area expects us to be quoting prices like that!!

S

« **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:02:23 pm »

Yep prices are stupid. :

And yep it could have been right on your door step Spencer

« **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:06:08 pm »

It is......we have worked in his area on several occasions last year.

S

« **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:19:13 pm »

Images are a funny thing, anything you publish to your website is yours, copyright is automatic unless you give permission for usage - a creative commons licence etc if you own the originals or if it can be proved there stolen.

As for the site, there not bad but a php template site will never do as well in google as the real thing, for various reasons.

Not a great way to make friends on here is it

« **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:21:59 pm »

Mark whats a php template site?

« **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:23:55 pm »

Well I guess that he won't be getting any more help from this site.
But not very clever to nick so much detail from one of the major players on here and ask what people think of 'The web site.' DUH

« **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:35:13 pm »

You had to ask didnt you...

That site really only has 1 page, its duplicated on every page and pulls the different text and images from the server dynamically, this means you cant seo each page individually.

Ive just noticed you have also nicked quite a bit of text as well from Spencer, that is taking the P*ss.

« **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:40:11 pm »

Quote from: Neil Williams on February 23, 2008, 09:23:55 pm

Well I guess that he won't be getting any more help from this site.
But not very clever to nick so much detail from one of the major players on here and ask what people think of 'The web site.' DUH

LOL! I like the DUH! my thoughts exactly.

I have to say its really silly people printing prices. Why limit your earning potenial?

« **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:59:44 pm »

If you right click on his dustmite/rug images & click properties, you'll see that they're linked back to sd cleaning.
He's stealing your bandwidth as well

Col F

« **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:05:59 pm »

Spencer and Mark you have both seen my site if i nicked text from Spencer why did you not bring it up before

« **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:08:12 pm »

I will be off to our company solicitor on Monday (again) he has defended the site twice in similar circumstances before, so he knows what he is doing.

Being that he is in the next county, it bothers me that some of my customers may get a little confused, I did notice that they didn't copy the Trading Standards Logo and NCCA logo though......I wonder why??

Bloody annoying though.

S

« **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:10:39 pm »

Mark, its not your site...? Is it?

S

« **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:15:38 pm »

Nice site bye the way

« **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:23:20 pm »

Spencer no its not my site but Mark seems to be implying i nicked stuff from your site.I got ideas from everywhere if anything offends let me know and i will remove it

« **Reply #25 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:25:24 pm »

Quote from: Col_in_Oz on February 23, 2008, 09:59:44 pm

If you right click on his dustmite/rug images & click properties, you'll see that they're linked back to sd cleaning.
He's stealing your bandwidth as well
Col F

Same with the pic of the rugs too

« **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:36:10 pm »

No problems with you Mark, its this other bloke from Gravesend, I think they may be in for a shock though.

S

« **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:43:52 pm »

Cheers Spencer as i say i got ideas from everywhere i also used a lot of modified text from my Piranha membership. Yours is one of the best out there i would have been a fool not to look at it.

« **Reply #28 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:47:41 pm »

Hi all

go to http://www.cleanesteam.co.uk

Refresh pages for allergy and rug cleaning

S

« **Reply #29 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:48:23 pm »

click on his site now and look at the pics for rugs

, how did you manage to change the pics. Funny though

« **Reply #30 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:48:54 pm »

Like it lol

« **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:53:56 pm »

Spencer are you the one in the middle

« **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:54:38 pm »

Don't mess with big Mark

S

« **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:59:35 pm »

Brilliant, nothing less than

« **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:59:40 pm »

Its up to you spencer, but if we all delete our own posts now,then this guy will be none the wiser as he it off line. Will s h i t his pants tomorrow though when he looks at his site.

« **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:03:44 pm »

Ha ha, I bet the web designer didn't think his phone would be ringing on a Sunday.

In all seriousness though, I think that they have totally taken the p1ss, Mark has had the same thing happen to him, people don't realize that it takes a lot of time putting together a site, our other site is nearly finished after six months.

S

« **Reply #36 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:10:47 pm »

Erm Cleanstream, would you like to ask your question again

« **Reply #37 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:12:31 pm »

Poetic justice??

« **Reply #38 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:19:29 pm »

i understand what you are all saying ,,,he should not have taken anyones text or pics ,,,but whats been done on his site is well out of order ,,if somone did that to my site i would see them in court,,,

yes he was out of order ,,and yes he should remove what he took ,,

« **Reply #39 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:26:59 pm »

The point is, Mark hasn't made any changes to his site, he was STEALING my band with, taking an image from my website, so the alterations have been made to MY website. I didn't ask him to steal from me.

S

« **Reply #40 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:29:06 pm »

spencer your 100% Right mate ,,but its out of order what you have done ,,you should have givin him 24 hours to remove it ,,,if he never then take action

« **Reply #41 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:41:28 pm »

You need to check your own website Spencer, don't forget the changes are reflected there!!!

« **Reply #42 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:44:14 pm »

Thanks mate, its all ok,

S

« **Reply #43 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:51:34 pm »

Spence, you crack me up, I cant stop laughing LOL

Guess he wont be doing that again!

« **Reply #44 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:59:34 pm »

Hotlinking -

http://www.static8.com/hotlink.html

is theft, so the only person guilty in court is him.

I have no sympathy and im still chuckling, lesson learnt the hard way, and I will be declining his 'rug cleaning service'

« **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2008, 12:07:42 am »

The 'hard' way being apt in this case.

S

« **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2008, 12:19:04 am »

Hi Spence,

Thought I'd defect from wc's forum to show my support for you mate. Your sites the original and the best for sure. Run this newbie outta town!!

« **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2008, 12:20:21 am »

Quote

Hotlinking -

http://www.static8.com/hotlink.html

is theft, so the only person guilty in court is him.

I have no sympathy and im still chuckling, lesson learnt the hard way, and I will be declining his 'rug cleaning service'

Putting pics like that on his web site is not agaist the law then d..k

No one said it was right taking peoples pics and text did they

« **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2008, 12:29:48 am »

Nothing has been 'put' on his website though, Mark can explain more concisely than me.

S

« **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2008, 12:44:53 am »

Lets make this clear

,he put these pics on his site not Spencer. Read the link I posted.

« **Reply #50 on:** February 24, 2008, 01:29:49 am »

Guests just left so missed the 'updated site' ................ sounds like it was as bad as i imagine

« **Reply #51 on:** February 24, 2008, 01:39:00 am »

Ian Harper copied one of my sites but asked in advance and i was happy to allow as he is opposite side of M25 ............ felt it was a compliment to be asked

.................. had to point out my link was missing from his site though

This case is piracy of the highest order

« **Reply #52 on:** February 24, 2008, 07:54:03 am »

What was done by this guy is not good ....

but whats to stop it again....

we are all on a forum where anyone can join without displaying their full details, real name, location etc so any joesoap could join and mess about.

perhaps time for the site owners/moderators to tighten up.

« **Reply #53 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:23:54 am »

What a relief to see some changes today, so fair play to them for changing it, although nobody bothered to reply to any e mails.

I am a bit concerned that this web designer was happy to do so much copying, I am sure I have seen his details before in the NCCA mag, perhaps I will drop them an e mail today.

Regards

S

« **Reply #54 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:32:40 am »

Spencer Sitewizard write articles in NCCA mag and do a discounted deal for members thats where i found them.They are not a one man band and offer free istock pics so i am surprised he nicked yours.

« **Reply #55 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:36:42 am »

Spencer

Maybe you should let NCCA know how one of their advertisers conducts business - to a NCCA member at that!

« **Reply #56 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:49:44 am »

Talk to Mathew at Sitewizard 016222 00045

« **Reply #57 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:54:33 am »

Hi Guys

Search green carpet cleaning on Yahoo, 1st is me www.greencarpetcleaning.co.uk, second is www.green-carpet-cleaning.co.uk .

Notice how the second one has basically copied my text and what really amused me was that he has put @copyrightCleanPro2007, so he is attempting to copyright my prose. :

He is also a NCCA member is there a link ?

Cheers

Doug

« **Reply #58 on:** February 24, 2008, 10:22:08 am »

Hey Doug

If you had any issue with me a simple e mail would have sufficed :

We are currently testing green type cleaning websites and as a quick template we did use a very small amount of text from your site as a filler - and obviously change it when completed.

You probaly have an old page load in your temp internet files as it does not have that text anymore!

Apologies for any inconnvenience though.

Kev

p.s. its a funny old world this internet game, I know of 2 other sites who have copied stuff from mine aswell but I maybe will do the right thing and send them personal e mails asking them politely to remove it.

« **Reply #59 on:** February 24, 2008, 10:55:15 am »

Hi Kev

Didn't know it was you as you do not call yourself Kev formula6 on your website.

I wondered if it was anyone on here, I do not have too much of a problem with people 'borrowing' but issues do arise when it is in direct competition as in this case.

The internet is based on sharing/linking so we have to accept a certain amount and I am not stressed about it.

Cheers

Doug

« **Reply #60 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:28:34 am »

The problem is once a picture has been posted on a public forum such as this then its fair game to be copied unless copyright across the pic somewhere.Its quite a compliment that someone uses your site to prove a point.

« **Reply #61 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:29:52 am »

Impressionists are funny but Imposters are illegal

« **Reply #62 on:** February 24, 2008, 01:59:41 pm »

Quote from: Doug Holloway on February 24, 2008, 10:55:15 am

Hi Kev

Didn't know it was you as you do not call yourself Kev formula6 on your website.

I wondered if it was anyone on here, I do not have too much of a problem with people 'borrowing' but issues do arise when it is in direct competition as in this case.

The internet is based on sharing/linking so we have to accept a certain amount and I am not stressed about it.

Cheers

Doug

No worries mate, know how you feel, it wasnt intentional to keep it as I say. Your right, and its newbies we have to be careful of I suppose - who come and go like the wind :

« **Reply #63 on:** February 25, 2008, 04:55:13 am »

if your worried then use this link below to check

http://copyscape.com/

respect

ian harper

« **Reply #64 on:** February 25, 2008, 07:12:19 am »

Hi,

If hes hotlinking your files, change the file on your site... ie remane the image and then remane the tag that displays the image.

Create a new image and name it with the old name. Make the image big and red with flashing text "I will ruin your carpets" or "I am a thieving vagrant" or "Warning!! I am on the sex offenders register" or the likes.

This will be displayed on his site and it will make him change the hotlinking.

There are also settings on most web hosts that will stop the hotlinking, but make browsers with referers disabled not work either.

I like the new image method.

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions

« **Reply #65 on:** February 25, 2008, 07:56:09 am »

Seems I have an awful lot to learn about the internet !!!!!!!!!!!What did occur to me when reading this, is the similarity to Newspaper or Y P, etc, advertising where it's very difficut to avoid duplication, or when several people who use the same products / machines, advertise, or they are part of a Marketing group, or part of a User group.

I suppose what becomes most evident, is the need to establish a clear, USP, or a distinctive LOGO, or a MEMORABLE name, maybe something simple, like Mike Halliday has put to good use, HIMSELF.

Incidentally, there are some really good looking sites emerging, but an awfull lot are falling into a marketing black hole.................wonder how many others have noticed, what's been glaringly obvious to me, for some time ..................

rob

« **Reply #66 on:** February 25, 2008, 12:21:40 pm »

Quote from: ianharper on February 25, 2008, 04:55:13 am

if your worried then use this link below to check

http://copyscape.com/

respect

ian harper

That´s a great site Ian and shows somebody on this thread is a little pot, kettle and black!
I´m sure you know who you are, I don´t mind but it would have been nice to have asked.

« **Reply #67 on:** February 25, 2008, 01:12:05 pm »

Excellent site Ian, I now know that people are copying my exact words as far afield as New York, and a company called Blaze cleaning in England.

Regards

S

« **Reply #68 on:** February 25, 2008, 01:25:58 pm »

Quote from: Dennis on February 25, 2008, 12:21:40 pm

Quote from: ianharper on February 25, 2008, 04:55:13 am
if your worried then use this link below to check

http://copyscape.com/

respect

ian harper

That´s a great site Ian and shows somebody on this thread is a little pot, kettle and black!
I´m sure you know who you are, I don´t mind but it would have been nice to have asked.

Joseph you naugthy boy

Great site to find out whats going on.

« **Reply #69 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:20:58 pm »

guys

why don't you just tell people if you think or know that they have rip off your stuff. as its already been pointed out one it does get confusing when someone let someone else use some text and then it get copied, then it get ripped. its important to get this right.

lets be upfront and adult about this.

here is a really good example. I like a product and machine so i use this product info to show to my prospects the benefits of this product. using their words. now this producer abjects to the use of this and ask me to remove the text. so i do. now how mad is it in this internet world that you cant write speak about a product but you could if spoken.

so you decide to use your own words this time not mentioning the name or use any promotional material just say you using the machine or product (this product is so unique that everyone know what it is) and now you could offend the producer. misrepresenting their product.

do you every time you want to write about something have to get permission? you would think that they would enjoy the FREE advertising?

respect

ian Harper

« **Reply #70 on:** February 25, 2008, 06:00:17 pm »

Has anybody noticed its done buy 'site wizard', the NCCA have done some deal with them for NCCA members discount, supprised they are hot linking from another c/c'er !