[scott.]

getting many calls regarding cleaning large office blocks, which are carpet tiles.
I have so far just dealt with the domestic market, but can't help feeling there's a mint to be made in the commercial sector, albeit they are slow to pay up (I hear).
Can anyone recommend a good rotary machine that will do the job..was looking at the "victor" range.....and also...what kind of rates would one charge for this kinda service....it's new to me.

[MAXJB4]

Dear Scott,
I cleaned large commercial offices and hospital carpeted areas.

1. make sure you have a contract which the customer signes. In this contract state  payment time ie. 30 days net.  Do not forget the late payment act.

2. I measured the area to be cleaned.  Then I phoned around other carpet cleaner in the area for their prices. Before putting my price to the customer.

All is fair in love and war.

Kind regards
christopher.

[mark_roberts]

I do commercial work and only once had a problem payer.  They went bust.

Yes theres a lot to be made in commercial cleaning but it usually has to be done in the evening, overnight or weekend so you have to figure this into your price.

You will not CLEAN carpet with only a rotary unless its regular maintainence.  Really you need a complete low moisture system such as Texatherm.  HWE will be required on some ocassions for problem stains and heavy soiling but the latter is restoration cleaning which can be a headache.

Pricing as always depends.  Ive gone a low as £1 a sqyard but still made £60 an hour or £2 a yard and only made £40 an hour.  For the big jobs its more cost efficient to have a few people helping and pay them £6 an hour or so for vaccing etc.

Mark

[scott.]

Ive heard of the texatherm system, however surely there must be other systems in use. Although I never took too much notice of the commercial side of things in the training school, im nearly sure they used rotary for cleaning as well as maintainance...maybe i'm wrong...I'm guessing carpet tiles would shrink with HWE cleaning then.

[Pristine_Cleaning]

Scott,

have a look at the Super Pad Charley from Nick at Solutions,  I use them with a Victor Rotary machine for all carpet tile work, quick and efficient.

Regards

John

[Derek_Walker]

Scott,

Carpet tiles will not shrink with hwe, it's just that a low moisture system will perform better in most cases and is a lot quicker & easier. The drying times are minimal and the noise level is usually pretty quiet. You can cover a large area very quickly which if you are doing commercial contracts is vital, as the amount per sq yard is less than domestic. Their are several low moisture systems available, Charlie pads from Solutions, Dry Fusion & Texatherm.

Derek

[Len Gribble]

Scott

There is also Dry Fusion and Craftex. (Think that the correct name)

Do use Charley (must get them back lent them out to test) and had demos of Tex (if I had the money at the time would have got it) both very good, a friend of mine now only uses DF now, he recons it the bees knees, what can one say get demos but leave your chq and credit card at home and sleep on it!

By far the cheapest option is Charley. Numatic do a twin speed machine two birds with one stone. Victor machines great.

Pricing not all jobs are the same prefer to look at them, but some time give a ball park figure £2.50 down to .90p

Sorry If I haven’t been of much help.

Know DF do a marketing cd and it good, isn’t that what it’s all about!

Len

[scott.]

cheers chaps
I get a better picture now. I'm guessing its easier to set up than HWE too..I'll check out those systems, and of course the cd...I agree about the contract, however was wondering how to word it, and of course the legality of such a document, in that, would they be legaly binding?

[therapist]

Scott

A few of us were conned into purchasing one of the systems mentioned with the promise of commercial work throughout the uk.

We have the systems, which work very well,,,,,,,but,,,you must learn to use it correctly !

We would be happy to talk to you, even if only to warn you about the scam.

rob m

[scott.]

Rob
are you talking about the texatherm thingy?

[therapist]

Yep, but sold through a third party.

nothing wrong with the system, for low profiles, low density carpets, etc

rob m

[jasonl]

is this the norfolk out fit you are talking about, ...whats the story with them

[scott.]

yeh, tell us the story rob.

[therapist]

Jason
were you not about to get involved with thes people recently

rob m

[jasonl]

yes i was, had doubts though , and was curious as to what the big potential pitfall was, it all sounded convincing , though something did not ring true ?

[therapist]

There is an ongoing legal process involving the people responsible for the scam and those who were conned.

At this time, they are still operating and owe money to a number of people, over 20k to one individual and less to others.

If anyone has been conned by a business based in Norfolk, promising high earnings from contracts which they claimed to have secured, we would be interested in hearing from you.

rob

[Len Gribble]

Rob

Good afternoon Len

Your comment about joint ventures caught my eye, as this is exactly the direction a few of us are about to take.

Too early to elaborate...............

ROB M

Hope not the same venture.

Sadly networking can have the same problems don’t you just love promises!  And yes very angry, but in the end I will name and shame and very soon on all forums

Len




Len

[Jolly Olly]

Hi Scot

Victor are good so are Numatic which are cheaper, I recomend an encapsulation cleaner called Spray & Clean from CarpetGard Ltd 01206 574400 it works superbly with a rotory or cylindrical brush machine, simply spray it, brush it and let it dry then vacuum, job done.
Pricing any job is a bit like the proverbial peice of elastic, you can work our how long it will take and charge an hourly labour rate, add the rest of your costs and the profit you want.
 
Good Luck

Jolly Olly

[therapist]

Hello again Len

not sure which angle you're coming from here!

my previous post referred to a scam which is still being perpetrated, but a number of indivivuals who were conned  have decided to take action.

as a result of phone calls and meetings, we have been offered work and are taking the commercial route rather than domestic, hence the Thermal rotary system mention.

I am also aware of the new Craftex Thermal Rotary system which looks promising.

Although I've  never been a fan of rotary  systems, there is no doubt that for commercial cleaning of large areas they are good

rob

[scott.]

cheers olly...i'll look into that..