[Your Choice w/c]

New to wfp but dont seem to get the glass as clean on wooden framed windows has i do with upvc.Painted wooden frames seemed to leave a white milky finish in patches after first clean even though i gave them a good going over.Dont know wheather this is a problem with single glazed glass,dirt from frames or just my cleaning.Any advise would be welcome cheers.

[Ian Lancaster]

Old or unsound paint will dissolve in the pure water, then when the water dries off the paint is left behind as a milky deposit on the glass.

Extra rinsing doesn't help as it just dissolves more paint.

Sometimes the problem goes away after a clean or two.

If it doesn't you have to trad it or leave it.

[dazmond]

this is a concern of mine on some properties i do when i switch to wfp.

trad and. ladders will always be around as these windows are much better done trad.even with a trad pole!

ill be tradding any suspect properties when i introduce wfp

[pure tech]

If the problem doesnt go away after a few cleans then
just avoid  wetting the top frame.
Although this is only practical on single vertical pane windows.
The top frame can still be quickly scrubbed with the damp brush but have the water turned off.

[Dave Willis]

I have a nightmare property with cream painted frames. The water seems to get into the joints and dissolve the paint or putty. It's a tidy house with recently painted frames. Almost as if they used emulsion and it's still wet.

[james44]

The wooden frames are not the problem! the pure water is,

If you run a garden hose on to the same window using tap water you dont get milky patches,

There is a way round the milky patches on wooden frames

[Dave Willis]

Wash them with a hosepipe and blade them off afterwards obviously.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

The wooden frames are not the problem! the pure water is,

If you run a garden hose on to the same window using tap water you dont get milky patches,

There is a way round the milky patches on wooden frames

I take it you're having a joke here.

If not, I thought I had heard some nonesense talked on here before but this is SOMETHING ELSE!!!!

[james44]

Winp®oClean

Try it for yourself mate get 2 buckets 1 with pure water and 1 with tap water wash 1 in pure water and 1 with tap water see wich one goes milky!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Winp®oClean

Try it for yourself mate get 2 buckets 1 with pure water and 1 with tap water wash 1 in pure water and 1 with tap water see wich one goes milky!

Both mate :

It's oxidized paint that that mixes with the water, any water. You end up with almost a very weak paint mixture!
This is what causes the "milking"

Dude, I've been wfp'ing these kinds of windows for six years, estate mansions, farm houses etc all with very old, oxidized frames. I've come across them all.

In a lab' situation the pure water might absorb the paint more but when it's being scrubbed with a brush it don't matter what liquid you use it's gonna milk!!!!

[paul rulton]

so is there nothing u can do about it then just one of them things?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

so is there nothing u can do about it then just one of them things?

You have two choices-

1. Scrub the top frame like crazy to try & remove all the oxidization. This can be done often but not always if the problem paint is down to the bone.

2. Clean the glass only. There is a technique where you can successfully clean only the glass & get top results every time. I've been doing this for years, it's a lot easier to show it than write it in text.

[paul rulton]

thanks m8  will try the 2nd one me thinks  got quite a few jobs like that  :

[formb]

Old or unsound paint will dissolve in the pure water, then when the water dries off the paint is left behind as a milky deposit on the glass.

Extra rinsing doesn't help as it just dissolves more paint.

Sometimes the problem goes away after a clean or two.

If it doesn't you have to trad it or leave it.

NO.

You CAN get these clean.

Rinse, Rinse, Rinse then...............




































..........................You guessed it



RINSE AGAIN

The water does effect older paint but only when you are scrubbing it, if you give it a really, I mean REALLY good rinse it'll come up just fine.

[james44]

True, form b

and dont scrub the frames to hard this only makes it worse,

[paul rulton]

thanks guys 

[traps7]

I used to worry about this but in the UK nowadays who has wooden windows? Just do the glass.  I have about 2 houses on my round that do and I've now decided I'm not gonna worry about them any more. If they come up good then great. If they don't then they'll have to get someone else if they're not happy. I'm not gearing my round for wooden windows.

[Your Choice w/c]

Thanks guys for all your comments,very interesting!Think ill just concentrate on the glass next clean and see what the results are.Hopefully they will be better second time round.

[barry mallett]

Wash them with a hosepipe and blade them off afterwards obviously

classic  reply, also tell them you are not going to clean them regular tell themto phone you when they need you good regular income and waiting for the phone to ring i think not .but reading most of the posts on here i would guess that 80%of the wc on here do that anyway

[james44]

I see the kids were up late last nite! 

A well back to school monday