[Alun Whyte]

Well its changed days got a license for the shire Westhill etc 2yrs ago and it cost me £50

[formb]

Well its changed days got a license for the shire Westhill etc 2yrs ago and it cost me £50

I think that's for an additional license, I got one for in toon, not sure how much I paid though.

[steven842]

not being funny  but in my opinion theres never been a lack of work England or Scotland .

Generaly the only time details get passed on to the police are when another window cleaner encroaches anothers "work"  .

Its not the councils fault they see a market to make money and exploit it!   the more window cleaners take the hump at window cleaners "grassing them in " the more justification the councils have to enforce a licenseing system .

Its all bull

[formb]

not being funny  but in my opinion theres never been a lack of work England or Scotland .

Generaly the only time details get passed on to the police are when another window cleaner encroaches anothers "work"  .

Its not the councils fault they see a market to make money and exploit it!   the more window cleaners take the hump at window cleaners "grassing them in " the more justification the councils have to enforce a licenseing system .

Its all bull

Fair e nuff.

[JSMC]

it doesn't ge trid of cowboys and never will. it's a tax and f*** all else

[formb]

Governments rip us off.

They always will.

I just think we need to play it to our advantage.

If we played it properly we could turn the public pre-conceptions about window cleaners round.

There was a thread on here about some Ricky Gervais' sketch or other where they said window cleaning is not a proper job.

I thought it was pretty funny, but ah well.

Loads of folk on here got all girney and upset about it. Then when it comes to regulating the industry, guess what?

Everyone is still not happy.

Which way do you want it?

[shammy davis jnr]

from what im led to belive there are two councils in scotland that still don charge (tax)window cleaning licence as this is merely a bye law and is down to each indiviual council ,but why in 1982 did they decide that window cleaning had to be licenced surley things have moved on from then and if any one can find out the reason why they enforced this in 1982 and the credible reasons if any for this ,
as i said earlier i pay for there employers liability ,public liability so why is this not the cover any other biz needs to trade legit ....

[HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)]

i personally was set against the license in a big way.....i thought it was just another needless tax to add to the govt/council coffers.......and in some ways it is, however i have seen another side to the issue ( i wont mention the fact thats its law to have one, coz we all know that) the reason why i support the license is that it seperates the legitimate businesses from the others, now i know one or two of our posters on here from parts of scotland may not have a license because they feel justified in not having one for whatever reason ( i am not here to judge) however if you can get round/accept the fact that its law you may be in the position to use it as a tool to further your business interests as you will get work or jobs that insist on you displaying a license on your person ( i have loads of jobs where i wouldnt get in the door without it) so having a license is a huge bonus in securing the higher ended work, like council/public buildings for obvious reasons.......without a license the best work i could hope for is a few wee runs here and there and most of the time i would be looking over my shoulder for the police, council enforcement officers (they do stop folk in glasgow and south lanarkshire) and expect a 2k fine for not having one.....in my opinion its just not worth NOT having one......i can clean any window in my licensed areas knowing that i have every right to be there AND i have the full protection of the police and council that licensed me to cover any disputes with unlicensed window cleaners, which has not really happened thus far, but its good to know its there.

i cant imagine being in the situation of building up a really good business over a few years, maybe leaving my job to start cleaning windows, wanting to experience being my own boss, care for my family etc etc and for it all to be taken off me simply because i failed to trade legally, and this could happen as if i were to be caught trading without a license....the police would not only charge me with a criminal offence the council will take a dim view and i wouldnt be allowed to clean another window anywhere in the council area until i got a license, and with a newly earned criminal conviction the likelyhood of getting a license from the council (or any other council area if i were to try there instead) will be ZERO.....and then the business would fail (might have to sell the run on to someone for a cut price) and i would then have to get a job doing something else (maybe my old job that i left to go cleaning windows for  )

thats my take on the license.......can of worms anyone?

[JSMC]

tell ye how bad it is when the scottish parliament is cleaned and compnay doing it dont have licence. feckin joke of system it is and also our local police station and job centre. So as for them asking you to display licences the police seem to not give a flying feck TBH. Scottish parliament is anothe rone where you would think a licence would be needed but sadly not. I was told the parliament is cleaned bya large national comapny also.

if i could get away with not having to pay it i would.

[shammy davis jnr]

yes im aware feelings run high on this matter and know both sides but why oh why window cleaners i want to know the reason behind i can see the point for a taxi where they are in an enclosed space with joe public for a period of time but why window cleaners what prompted them in the first place is it becase i pay tax liability insurance sign written van ,local part time fire man which i dont need a licence when im up a ladder doing that job ,why us they must have there reasons written down some where i can bet there was not one window cleaner present when this was pushed through  so where do u get these answers from?? guys any one our does it end in brick wall

[BORBRYCE]

Anyway you look at it it is discrimination. Unless we all decide to properly and legaly set up a protest group or similar, get the press involved and then plead our case to our local mp, or get a good lawyer on our side (because this just may be very illegal). There is not much we can do.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I'm in scotland & don't need a licence. Where am I?

[Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle]

ok so you need a license to be a window cleaner.

BUT

do you need a license to be a window FRAME cleaner or a gutter cleaner 

 

does anyone want to answer my previous question?

they reckon licensing stops the cowboys, the dole cheats, the tax evaders, etc.... WELL, it doesnt.

[shammy davis jnr]

ryan i know your right mate but they would do u any how just for being cheeky ,that is how crazy it is mate i know what is the diffrence you dont need a licence for cleaning frames
would be funny if your statment to police was i am not cleaning windows im cleaning frames ,goes to court and you say to the pf that i was cleaning frames of windows ok case dismissed plz send in the window cleaners for sentenceing

[mci services]

I'm in scotland & don't need a licence. Where am I?

Scottish borders

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I'm in scotland & don't need a licence. Where am I?

Scottish borders

 

[Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle]

ryan i know your right mate but they would do u any how just for being cheeky ,that is how crazy it is mate i know what is the diffrence you dont need a licence for cleaning frames
would be funny if your statment to police was i am not cleaning windows im cleaning frames ,goes to court and you say to the pf that i was cleaning frames of windows ok case dismissed plz send in the window cleaners for sentenceing

or .....

"im not a window cleaner. Im a glass cleaner"



there IS loopholes in most laws  

[Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle]

I'm in scotland & don't need a licence. Where am I?

Scottish borders

 

cheers lads, 20 mins up road from me

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I'm in scotland & don't need a licence. Where am I?

Scottish borders

 

cheers lads, 20 mins up road from me

Where are you Ryan?

[mci services]

guessing northumbria