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Paulcoz33

Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« on: December 17, 2003, 12:21:52 am »

I have a family member working for me who is scared to go up the ladder. He is so trust worthy and as im expanding i want to put him in charge and branch off myself, He has a good relationship with me and my customers.But im starting to think i could'nt leave him doing the job on his own he goes up but dont like it."what do i do" in this predicament.

shinebright

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Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2003, 12:25:05 am »
BUY A WATER FED POLE SYSTEM

Paulcoz33

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2003, 12:26:25 am »
Cost ?

Polepro

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2003, 09:38:22 am »
Whats the cost of losing a good man or losing work because he won't do the upstairs windows or not being able to grow your business? Check out www.ionicsystems.com or www.pure2o.co.uk for prices on waterfed pole systems.

Tom

Londoner

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2003, 01:31:36 pm »
Round where I live there used to be a window cleaner who only did bungalows. Its true and he was quite famous. One of the Sunday papers did a story on him. They made out he was frightened to go up ladders but the truth was he had gammy leg and as he got older he couldn't do the ladders.
On a more serious note, what sort of ladders are you using? Its amazing how much safer you feel on a good A frame compared to a whippy old B+Q cheapo.

Majestic

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2003, 06:09:43 pm »
Why dont you get another person, and let them do the upstairs and your family member do the bottoms 8)

STEVE71163

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2003, 08:27:01 pm »
Hi Dom,
         
          How do you come to that conclusion then ??? A sole trader has far more to lose if they have to close business than a limited company ::) Its all down to personal choice who you buy your pole from but to call someone a cowboy because they are not limited is ridiculous.

Steve

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2003, 08:36:16 pm »
What a load off crap.
I'll second that Steve,
Dom if you read some of the other posts you will see that people have been hung out to dry (as you call it)from the bigger limited company's, and had a better service from smaller companys to ammend faullts who have not even sold the equipment.  
Alan

Majestic

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2003, 10:43:12 pm »
I have had dealings with a big company not naming names  oh go on then OTT  :Pthere after sales service was c**p because I was not spending thousands they were not interested ,  and did not reply to e mails , they had a online offer  spend over £150 and you got a free mini pole , I spent over £300 but had to phone them because my order was not straight forward  , they said I would still get the pole . But 2 years later I still have not received it .
When I spoke to Mr Fogwell he could not do enough to help and I dont think he is Ltd  8)

STEVE71163

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2003, 01:34:57 pm »
Hi Dom,
          I understand your comments on the safety issue and i was certainly not knocking the larger company's but all those larger company's started off small at one time and to say the smaller ones are cowboys because they are not limited is just a silly comment. Thats like a vat registered window cleaning company saying that any others that are not vat registered are cowboys ::)

Steve

STEVE71163

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2003, 01:50:12 pm »
Hi Dom,
          I was wondering do you work for Brodex ??? and if not and you are a window cleaner are you Limited ??? If not your customers might like to know that they are having their windows cleaned by a cowboy ;D ::) ;D

Steve

g_griffin

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2003, 09:46:07 pm »
Rockets? Astronauts? Zero gravity pool tables?

 What planet are you on? ;D

                 Gerry.

Neil

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2003, 10:32:18 pm »
Slag off the competition and call them all cowboys then say buy from ME!!!
Mmm thats professional
??? :o

jonesy5

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Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2003, 10:43:35 pm »
Sorry Dom (BRODEX) but i have read a few of your threads and i think you are trying hard to put the competion down i am dealing with ionic, yes they are expensive but the company has done well with marketing, research and safety. Their sales techinques are good and i am buying a flash machine with help from the taxman, all of us pay tax so i recomend if you are after a machine go with ionic on lease to buy and let the tax man do you a big favour.
Try yellow pages Dom you lost customers on this site

pure_genius

  • Posts: 47
Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2003, 10:52:01 pm »
The guy from brodex has not got anything positive to say except slag of other systems. He says he is a chemist he was not sure wether he was a window cleaner or was working for brodex, i dont know about chemistry i would say he was intoxicated.
Maybe to much christmas spirit hey ;D  

Majestic

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2003, 10:55:49 pm »
Dom
I dont think that you have done yourself any favours,
8)

karlosdaze

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2003, 11:25:28 pm »
Quote
STEVE.
Sean Burke,  MD of BRODEX Ltd,  
Sean Rimmer BSc (Sales manager)BRODEX Ltd
aka Dom Matrix (dont go there..!)


Do you have a web site?

BeeClean

Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2003, 11:47:26 pm »
Hey dom do brodex supply to cowboys (people like me that aren't limited ::))

paul w

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Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2003, 11:58:38 pm »
dom aka billy the kid..............sorry billy the kid L.T.D.
pane in the glASS

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Window cleaner that refuses to go up ladder
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2003, 05:30:16 pm »
Quote
STEVE
A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing and the natural spawning of 1 man bands who are the "nouveau water treatment specialists" is peculiar to our industry. They know a little bit, tell everyone its all a rip off and buy off me, because I'm a window cleaner and I've designed my equipment with window cleaners in mind.! Thats a bit like an astronaut designing a rocket, yes the rocket may well have a cd player, a bar fridge, zero gravity pool table, but will it get me to the moon..? ;) Safety is not an issue addressed by any of the "One Man Bands" and when you need service, for instance a pole, machine spare etc. next day and you ring your man up for it pronto, if they are out cleaning windows, you are up *hit creek. The point is, the limited companies do it for a living and stock what you need, so you've got a fighting chance of keeping on the road. If the limited companies let you down, simple, dont let them ;)
DOM


I have quite a lot to say on the above issues, I am at the moment a 1-man business

Firstly your comment " They know a little bit, tell everyone its all a rip off and buy off me, because I'm a window cleaner and I've designed my equipment with window cleaners in mind "  

No this is not the way I do business, what I tell people who ask why there is such a difference in the price of a specific item is the fact that the bigger companies have more overheads.  This is the main factor on the price differences.

I would say though that a window cleaner has more chance of getting a window clean with pure water than a real industrial chemist has, with the same pure water.

Secondly you said " Thats a bit like an astronaut designing a rocket, yes the rocket may well have a cd player, a bar fridge, zero gravity pool table, but will it get me to the moon..? ;) Safety is not an issue addressed by any of the "One Man Bands" and when you need service, for instance a pole, machine spare etc. next day and you ring your man up for it pronto, if they are out cleaning windows, you are up *hit creek "

I don't clean windows, and even if I did I have a mobile phone.  Do you run to the courier office immediately after getting an order for a spare part?  I don't think so, I don't, my next day courier service takes parcels in until 5 o'clock and still guarantees next day delivery.

On safety, what certification do you have to say your system is any safer than mines is?

And lastly you said " The point is, the limited companies do it for a living and stock what you need, so you've got a fighting chance of keeping on the road. If the limited companies let you down, simple, dont let them”

I didn't realise you had to be a limited company to have stock, I hope my suppliers don't find out I am not limited or they won't supply me with anything else.  I better nip out right away and get limited.

Peter Fogwill