[Dave Anderson]

Does anyone here have actual prolonged use of either electric or rachet style reels for use with wfp with either 6mm or 8mm hose? say 100 meters?

Cheers
Dave.

[Mike #1]

had the sealy retractable rachet hose reel fitted with 6mm hose for about 8 months now no coplaints at all www.pvrdirect.co.uk

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

There is someone who uses electric reels on here but you'll need either a tardis or a DMC DeLorean as (apparently) he lives two years in the future of the rest of us!

He's not very enthusiastic when it comes to his electric reels though, so I doubt you'll get much out of him.

[Clive McDonald]

I've explained it many times and put several pictures up. Screwfix are doing a good deal at the moment a site 18v drill and three batterys £50.These batteries also fit the makita drill.

Batteries on their own cost £64.

I recommend buying this drill fast. I have used one for 2yrs- and the batteries are now tired.

As regards rachets, aren't they 10 or 15 metre recoil only?

[Jeff Brimble]

Thought ratchets was another name for bed bugs 

Anyone tried the Hozelock Fast Reels ? wondering it they need extra wrist leverage to turn the gearing compared to normal as I want to mount the reel on the ladders on the roof to save space inside my tardis berlingo multispace.

[Clive McDonald]

hmmmph!
For the last time
800 litres , twinroof mounted electric reels,three stage ladder inside roof,two see thru cabinets, a grid that attaches tee bars squeegies etc for easy access drying and keeping clean, Three working pumps and varistreams, two tapped live feeds from tank, two tapped returns to tank.

And yes, plenty of room to spare and all in a scudo.Who cares if you take the mick.

I nearly forgot, it's not speedlined because it doesn't have to be.

[Nathanael Jones]

Clive,.. have you ever found a decent self layering mechanism that'd suit our reels too?

[Clive McDonald]

No, i use my hand and feed through a towel, mostly i have my back to the incoming reel and this jolts me when there is a kink, but mostly me and my oppo find it okay.

Neither of us would ever go back to winding in by hand. I can understand if your work is mainly commercial you may not need this but on domestic we find it saves a lot of manual work.

[Nathanael Jones]

I'm going to go electric reels soon,.. & your setup has given me some good idea's. I would love to incorporate a self layering mechanism & have the motor/drill running from the WFP battery though.

[Clive McDonald]

You are pretty good at making things work and so am i. I don't know much about the practical side though.
The site drills at £50 seem a good investment to me. Get more because spare batteries are good. The leisure battery is only 12v, these are 18v.

Whichever motor you use the torque has to be right.These drills with the two speed setting work on the lower speed- they do not work on the high speed setting,

I tried an impact driver and that would not work at all.

What i am saying, this is a simple solution and it works extremely well.If you saw it in action you would forget about trying to improve on it.

Any self layering system would still get snagged by kinks, and tangles.The key is to lay the hose out in an orderly way.If i carry my hose back to the van in a jumble of loops i get into a mess just like anyone else.

By feeding the hose in through a towel and having the other hand on the trigger the control is very good.WW said i should do a u tube and perhaps i should. It's a bit like the early days when we were the first with hot systems, all that argueing, what's the point.I've used the reels in this way for two years now.

I expect the self layering could be done, but i prefer simpler solutions.

If you could find a simple and cheap way to do the clutch you would probably have a  good product.The criteria is that it should drive the reel, and freewheel when the power is off- that's all it has to do.So you need a male and a female bit that fit together, one on the drill and the other on the reel, and these to seperate when the reel wants to continue spinning without the drill.

[Nathanael Jones]

I have an old 24v drill that will work (Slowly) on the 12v wfp battery so I might try to give it a go over the summer. If It works for me then I'll invest in a decent drill/motor.

[Jeff Brimble]

You are pretty good at making things work and so am i. I don't know much about the practical side though.
The site drills at £50 seem a good investment to me. Get more because spare batteries are good. The leisure battery is only 12v, these are 18v.

Whichever motor you use the torque has to be right.These drills with the two speed setting work on the lower speed- they do not work on the high speed setting,

I tried an impact driver and that would not work at all.

What i am saying, this is a simple solution and it works extremely well.If you saw it in action you would forget about trying to improve on it.

Any self layering system would still get snagged by kinks, and tangles.The key is to lay the hose out in an orderly way.If i carry my hose back to the van in a jumble of loops i get into a mess just like anyone else.

By feeding the hose in through a towel and having the other hand on the trigger the control is very good.WW said i should do a u tube and perhaps i should. It's a bit like the early days when we were the first with hot systems, all that argueing, what's the point.I've used the reels in this way for two years now.

I expect the self layering could be done, but i prefer simpler solutions.

If you could find a simple and cheap way to do the clutch you would probably have a  good product.The criteria is that it should drive the reel, and freewheel when the power is off- that's all it has to do.So you need a male and a female bit that fit together, one on the drill and the other on the reel, and these to seperate when the reel wants to continue spinning without the drill.

Good post> 

[Nathanael Jones]

I see the electric reel as something that will remove repetitive & sometimes awkward actions & reduce stress on my body,.. i've the same motivation for it as I had for using lighter poles & brushes.
At the moment my reel isn't even fixed in the van though,.. I'm on the lookout for some cheap roller fairleads & planning a decent fixed reel motorised rewind setup.

[Ste M]

id love to leave my reel in the van, unfortunatly the connectors leak so i wont be doing that, yes they are supposedly the good ones as well from gardiners :

[davids3511]

Slumpbuster,

Do you have a pic of your solution, please?  Apologies if you've already posted one, but if you have I couldn't find the post with a quick search.

I'm interested as I'm keen to get a cheap quick solution to this problem and it sounds like you have one.

V

Slumpy, I would appreciate some more details and pics too. I did look at an old post from you but the pics seem to be gone.

[Roy Harding]

Would one of these be powerfull enough to pull in a hose?

http://www.db-starter-alternator.com/Items/sbs0004%20-----?&caSKU=sbs0004%20-----&caTitle=BRIGGS%20393499%20394943%20399169%20490420%20494198%20494990%20497401%20%20%20SBS0004

Roy

[Roy Harding]

Or these

http://www.db-starter-alternator.com/Items/Item.aspx?SKU=lrw0001%20/%20ramsey&caSKU=lrw0001%20/%20ramsey&caTitle=NEW%2012V%20Ramsey%20Winch%20Motor%20Bi-Directional%20HD%20MBJ4407%20LRW0001%20RAMSEY

Roy

[Nathanael Jones]

Any kind of starter motor would be well powerful enough. The second one is 4.5hp!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I have the thought of running either an electric or rachet style reel from a fitting on a ladder fitted from the roof rack-rack and onto the rear door...hope this is clear.

This hose could then be run through a roller block (not sure of actual name) thus allowing near 180deg running of the hose.

The end aim to limit the amount of times I need to open the van.  Poles/ladder on top...water tank and bits inside.

There is someone who uses electric reels on here but you'll need either a tardis or a DMC DeLorean as (apparently) he lives two years in the future of the rest of us!

He's not very enthusiastic when it comes to his electric reels though, so I doubt you'll get much out of him.

What possible use is this to anyone? sorry but I did ask a specific question and you seem to have thought I asked for someone to write down a complete string of random nonesense. Sorry if I did not make myself clear. My apologies.

Hey Dave, it may be worth your while hitching a ride on slumpy's time machine. See if you can get him to take you back a few years & find that sense of humour you left behind!

[Jeff Brimble]

I find this is very fast, I used to have it Vertically on the trolley but it creates friction on the outside of the casing. This way it spins really easily. It has to be up there because as you can see the back of the car is full. :roll: