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lcwalker

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Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« on: March 28, 2010, 12:40:23 pm »
What it is im trade and i do the top windows my partner does the bottoms but alot of the house's around here have awkward windows to get to and im not that good with a trade pole, if there one or two windows that are awkward i will drop a leaflet if more, i tend to leave the house this means missing out on quite afew protential customers.

So im trying to sell some bits and pieces i have in the loft to raise money to buy a wfp trolley system mainly to tackle these harder windows, but as i wont be using alot of water because i wont be using it full time and my partner does the bottoms, i was wondering if i collected rain water i would probably have enough for my needs untill i can afford a RO system.I know i will need a TDS tester and a pump to fill up my trolley but would i need a filter for the rain water if the tds was quite low if so what exact filter would i need.Id get a proper filter system but it's more money i dont have at the moment.

chopsie

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 12:51:37 pm »
get a back pack from window cleaning warehouse,loads cheaper than a trolley and will do if your only doing a couple windows.get some 25 litre drums from carwash for nothing to put your water in,and just get a cheap pole
chopsie

lcwalker

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 01:03:05 pm »
get a back pack from window cleaning warehouse,loads cheaper than a trolley and will do if your only doing a couple windows.get some 25 litre drums from carwash for nothing to put your water in,and just get a cheap pole
What about purifying the water?.

lcwalker

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 01:06:54 pm »
get a back pack from window cleaning warehouse,loads cheaper than a trolley and will do if your only doing a couple windows.get some 25 litre drums from carwash for nothing to put your water in,and just get a cheap pole
What back pack do you have how much did your complete backpack system cost including pole.

chopsie

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 01:16:51 pm »
my back pack is the yellow one from wcw as recommended by many on here,Think it was £120 with tap on and ez snap connector fitted. I bought an slx pole 25 foot.Thought i would get the best i could afford at the time(skint now though  ::) )
dunno what poles you can get cheaper,have a look round,I would say you def need at least 25 foot one as i often have mine on full extension to reach over long,shallow con roofs.
chopsie


G Griffin

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 01:26:04 pm »
What it is im trade and i do the top windows my partner does the bottoms but alot of the house's around here have awkward windows to get to and im not that good with a trade pole, if there one or two windows that are awkward i will drop a leaflet if more, i tend to leave the house this means missing out on quite afew protential customers.

So im trying to sell some bits and pieces i have in the loft to raise money to buy a wfp trolley system mainly to tackle these harder windows, but as i wont be using alot of water because i wont be using it full time and my partner does the bottoms, i was wondering if i collected rain water i would probably have enough for my needs untill i can afford a RO system.I know i will need a TDS tester and a pump to fill up my trolley but would i need a filter for the rain water if the tds was quite low if so what exact filter would i need.Id get a proper filter system but it's more money i dont have at the moment.
You won`t need a pump to fill your trolley, especially if you`re short of funds.
    In the short term, can`t you get some water from a wfp user local to you?
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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 01:41:30 pm »

I buy my water for 3p a litre.  Them cheap RO systems can cost a lot on waste water if in a hard water area. ., if you are on a water-meter

lcwalker

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 02:57:33 pm »

I buy my water for 3p a litre.  Them cheap RO systems can cost a lot on waste water if in a hard water area. ., if you are on a water-meter
Hi where do you buy it from? if i had an ro system i would filter it at my dads as he isn't on a meter.

mci services

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 03:02:55 pm »
if you are only filling small amounts you could use di only

try www.daqua.co.uk for prices

to calculate the cost of just using resin

http://www.cleantech.co.uk/tdscalc.htm

mci services

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 03:06:32 pm »
just to add if you do go ro you will need a di vessel anyway

lcwalker

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 03:08:52 pm »
if you are only filling small amounts you could use di only

try www.daqua.co.uk for prices

to calculate the cost of just using resin

http://www.cleantech.co.uk/tdscalc.htm
Well it would only be small amounts im in a hard water area so i take it i would need an RO to.But could i just get away with a di for rain water?.

mci services

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 03:12:32 pm »
you can use the di only with tap or rain water, rain would be cheaper though

if you have a tds from tap of say 300ppm then for say 400l per month its just under 20 quid a month on resin

obviously it would be much cheaper if using rain water

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 03:23:15 pm »
Yes. Go for rainwater if you can. That's what  use and I use it raw - not filtered, not DI, not anything.

It comes off my garage roof at anywhere between 006 and 020 - and it's perfectly usable. Off my house roof, it's 035 to 040. That isn't usable as it is, but would be if put through a DI unit.

If you can collect your own rainwater or get someone else to do it for you, that's the cheapest way to go.

Tom White

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 03:25:15 pm »
lcwalker, have a search on the forum for 'rain water harvesting', and look on Matt's DIY site (google for DIY WFP), I can't give a link because it's against forum rules, but in the WFP DIY forum there's a lot of stuff about rain water harvesting.

Or you could start up a new post about it?

You could also contact Elite Mike from the DIY WFP forum by PM, or Jeff Brimble; both have done this and know the score, and both are helpful friendly guys (Mike lives close to me, so I know him personally).

lcwalker

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2010, 06:12:53 pm »
Thanks very much for your help i think first im going to rig up water collectors from my house and shed and buy a tds tester and then ill know what the reading are and can go from there thank to you all.

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2010, 06:34:45 pm »
Thanks very much for your help i think first im going to rig up water collectors from my house and shed and buy a tds tester and then ill know what the reading are and can go from there thank to you all.

Spot on!

Just use a jam jar to catch water straight out of the downspout and measure it.

Decide which roof you want to collect from and buy a diverter and a couple of butts. Diverters are available from almost every hardware store.

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=diverter&x=0&y=0

Here's an example.


lcwalker

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Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way)
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2010, 06:45:32 pm »
Thanks very much for your help i think first im going to rig up water collectors from my house and shed and buy a tds tester and then ill know what the reading are and can go from there thank to you all.

Spot on!

Just use a jam jar to catch water straight out of the downspout and measure it.

Decide which roof you want to collect from and buy a diverter and a couple of butts. Diverters are available from almost every hardware store.

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=diverter&x=0&y=0

Here's an example.


I did just wonder if i get the water from my house roof it has old fashioned metal gutters does that make a difference from the common plastic gutters?.

Re: Purify water cheap (is there a way) New
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 07:22:16 pm »
Thanks very much for your help i think first im going to rig up water collectors from my house and shed and buy a tds tester and then ill know what the reading are and can go from there thank to you all.

Spot on!

Just use a jam jar to catch water straight out of the downspout and measure it.

Decide which roof you want to collect from and buy a diverter and a couple of butts. Diverters are available from almost every hardware store.

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=diverter&x=0&y=0

Here's an example.


I did just wonder if i get the water from my house roof it has old fashioned metal gutters does that make a difference from the common plastic gutters?.

That's precisely why you need to measure. My house is the same and the TDS of the roof is, as I've said, 035 to 040. Whether that's the metal gutters or the roof tiles, I've no idea. The garage roof is asphalt with plastic gutters, and the water runs off between 006 and 020.