[formb]

I am about to put my prices up. We have no set structure for pricing. We aim for an hourly rate although this can be difficult to determine before you actually clean the windows.

Do any of you price per window?

When you put your prices up do you use it to try and even out the prices or do you put a blanket increase across the board?

[dazmond]

i put most of mine up every year.lost 4 this year and one went on a longer cleaning frequency.i really bit the bullet this year.some went up a fiver and one £7!!most a pound/2pound.

i made the mistake of not putting mine up for years a few years ago so ive put some up quite sharply!smaller increases the next few years.maybe only 50p on some.

i price per hour(not window).i usually know how long a jobs going to take me.ill still price up the trad way when i go wfp though!!

regards

dazmond

[formb]

Pricing by window can give you a very rough guide; but then you have to add or subtract according to many different variables.  There's a bit of an art to pricing and I think it would be nigh impossible to make it into an exact science.

I have thought of actually timing how long it takes to do every house. It would just be a case of starting a stopwatch in the van then stopping it when I get back.

In the case of streets where I do more than 1 without returning to the van I can still get a per hour price for the street and work it back. I think if I had an actual record of exactly how long houses were taking it would be easier to judge when pricing new customers.

What do you think?

[Sean Dyer]

yep

trouble is if you then travel between jobs but thats something you have to sort yourself, i do usually have an average time for house / into hourly rate

but we clean streets of similar houses so you know how many you can do in an hour etc

we were timnig some houses yesterday they were taking 10 -11 mins each and were roughly a tenner each, yet we only did 4 and a bit per hour, this is because you then post ticket, pick up gear walk to next one start again so time is lost that you dont notice

per window i dont like but it works for some but i do still count the windows and average it out, and sometimes of course i am just cheeky and throw in a high price - if you get it hapy days if not start lowering a bit

[formb]

yep

trouble is if you then travel between jobs but thats something you have to sort yourself, i do usually have an average time for house / into hourly rate

but we clean streets of similar houses so you know how many you can do in an hour etc

we were timnig some houses yesterday they were taking 10 -11 mins each and were roughly a tenner each, yet we only did 4 and a bit per hour, this is because you then post ticket, pick up gear walk to next one start again so time is lost that you dont notice

per window i dont like but it works for some but i do still count the windows and average it out, and sometimes of course i am just cheeky and throw in a high price - if you get it hapy days if not start lowering a bit

There is nothing worse than a customer saying, "Really, is that all?"

[geoffreyspecht]

some jobs iprce by the window,some jobs i price by the square metre

[Ste M]

yep

trouble is if you then travel between jobs but thats something you have to sort yourself, i do usually have an average time for house / into hourly rate

but we clean streets of similar houses so you know how many you can do in an hour etc

we were timnig some houses yesterday they were taking 10 -11 mins each and were roughly a tenner each, yet we only did 4 and a bit per hour, this is because you then post ticket, pick up gear walk to next one start again so time is lost that you dont notice

per window i dont like but it works for some but i do still count the windows and average it out, and sometimes of course i am just cheeky and throw in a high price - if you get it hapy days if not start lowering a bit

There is nothing worse than a customer saying, "Really, is that all?"

had that comment a few times lately, ive picked up some work in a new area that is more affluent than my usual areas, priced them up as i do working to my hourly rate, i priced one at £9 and he wanted to give me £10, i said no and he looked very suprised, i just told him i have a price and i stick to it, im not here to rip people off and he looked genuinely shocked, i know he will tell more people though that im very good and that i price it fairly, this will pay offf for me in the long run and i will make more money from it

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

yep

trouble is if you then travel between jobs but thats something you have to sort yourself, i do usually have an average time for house / into hourly rate

but we clean streets of similar houses so you know how many you can do in an hour etc

we were timnig some houses yesterday they were taking 10 -11 mins each and were roughly a tenner each, yet we only did 4 and a bit per hour, this is because you then post ticket, pick up gear walk to next one start again so time is lost that you dont notice

per window i dont like but it works for some but i do still count the windows and average it out, and sometimes of course i am just cheeky and throw in a high price - if you get it hapy days if not start lowering a bit

There is nothing worse than a customer saying, "Really, is that all?"

had that comment a few times lately, ive picked up some work in a new area that is more affluent than my usual areas, priced them up as i do working to my hourly rate, i priced one at £9 and he wanted to give me £10, i said no and he looked very suprised, i just told him i have a price and i stick to it, im not here to rip people off and he looked genuinely shocked, i know he will tell more people though that im very good and that i price it fairly, this will pay offf for me in the long run and i will make more money from it

That will be almost a certainty that he will recommend you Ste.
I have a pricing guide of a £1 per window, £1.50 for patio doors/french doors and bay windows, and £2 per window above conservatories and second and third floor, then what ever it is I add £1 for expenses like SAE's and paypal payments as I get charged a percentage on recieving money from Paypal.



Matt

[Window Washers]

yep

trouble is if you then travel between jobs but thats something you have to sort yourself, i do usually have an average time for house / into hourly rate

but we clean streets of similar houses so you know how many you can do in an hour etc

we were timnig some houses yesterday they were taking 10 -11 mins each and were roughly a tenner each, yet we only did 4 and a bit per hour, this is because you then post ticket, pick up gear walk to next one start again so time is lost that you dont notice

per window i dont like but it works for some but i do still count the windows and average it out, and sometimes of course i am just cheeky and throw in a high price - if you get it hapy days if not start lowering a bit

There is nothing worse than a customer saying, "Really, is that all?"

had that comment a few times lately, ive picked up some work in a new area that is more affluent than my usual areas, priced them up as i do working to my hourly rate, i priced one at £9 and he wanted to give me £10, i said no and he looked very suprised, i just told him i have a price and i stick to it, im not here to rip people off and he looked genuinely shocked, i know he will tell more people though that im very good and that i price it fairly, this will pay offf for me in the long run and i will make more money from it

That will be almost a certainty that he will recommend you Ste.
I have a pricing guide of a £1 per window, £1.50 for patio doors/french doors and bay windows, and £2 per window above conservatories and second and third floor, then what ever it is I add £1 for expenses like SAE's and paypal payments as I get charged a percentage on recieving money from Paypal.



Matt

Matt, can you expain a little, as per window could mean a 5 pain window, a triple with openers ect ect. I am yet after 10 ish year worked out a way to price all the different houses that we clean......im always open to listen to things that could make my life easier....

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

yep

trouble is if you then travel between jobs but thats something you have to sort yourself, i do usually have an average time for house / into hourly rate

but we clean streets of similar houses so you know how many you can do in an hour etc

we were timnig some houses yesterday they were taking 10 -11 mins each and were roughly a tenner each, yet we only did 4 and a bit per hour, this is because you then post ticket, pick up gear walk to next one start again so time is lost that you dont notice

per window i dont like but it works for some but i do still count the windows and average it out, and sometimes of course i am just cheeky and throw in a high price - if you get it hapy days if not start lowering a bit

There is nothing worse than a customer saying, "Really, is that all?"

had that comment a few times lately, ive picked up some work in a new area that is more affluent than my usual areas, priced them up as i do working to my hourly rate, i priced one at £9 and he wanted to give me £10, i said no and he looked very suprised, i just told him i have a price and i stick to it, im not here to rip people off and he looked genuinely shocked, i know he will tell more people though that im very good and that i price it fairly, this will pay offf for me in the long run and i will make more money from it

That will be almost a certainty that he will recommend you Ste.
I have a pricing guide of a £1 per window, £1.50 for patio doors/french doors and bay windows, and £2 per window above conservatories and second and third floor, then what ever it is I add £1 for expenses like SAE's and paypal payments as I get charged a percentage on recieving money from Paypal.



Matt

Matt, can you expain a little, as per window could mean a 5 pain window, a triple with openers ect ect. I am yet after 10 ish year worked out a way to price all the different houses that we clean......im always open to listen to things that could make my life easier....

Sorry ian, window with 3 panes or less (even with openers) £1
Windows larger than this then it would be £1.50
like the bays, 3-4 pane bays £1.50 bays larger than this I charge £2.00
If theres a pane with an opener above it I class it as one pane.

Only problem mate, I think I could charge more!
every customer that has phoned up for a quote has accepted my quote.
I was told by someone last year that if I get every single job then I am under quoting, If I hardly get a job from the quote then I am quoting too high.
Do you agree mate?



Matt

[Wizard]

I agree with Matt.
All prices I feel must have checks and balances so to check on this factor I estimate the approximate timer it would take and check this with my hourly rate. If they are close them I am happy if not I adjust my price accordingly also bare in mind a slightly higher rate( 1 = 50 extra ) for Georgian windows. O my quote this would be my 4 weekly price.6 weekly is + 25%, 8 weekly is + 50 percent and First is 50% to 100% for very dirty glass. I have a card like a bigger business card I can write on it says 4 weekly 8weekly and first. I always fill in all those fees so they can see and choose the visit they need.. So if the customer decides to have longer between cleans I will up the price. I have found in the past they want 4 weekly and in the winter go to 8 weekly they know its going to cost more. Anything in excess of 8 weeks is a first clean.

Hope this all make sense

[paul rulton]

I agree with Matt.
All prices I feel must have checks and balances so to check on this factor I estimate the approximate timer it would take and check this with my hourly rate. If they are close them I am happy if not I adjust my price accordingly also bare in mind a slightly higher rate( 1 = 50 extra ) for Georgian windows. O my quote this would be my 4 weekly price.6 weekly is + 25%, 8 weekly is + 50 percent and First is 50% to 100% for very dirty glass. I have a card like a bigger business card I can write on it says 4 weekly 8weekly and first. I always fill in all those fees so they can see and choose the visit they need.. So if the customer decides to have longer between cleans I will up the price. I have found in the past they want 4 weekly and in the winter go to 8 weekly they know its going to cost more. Anything in excess of 8 weeks is a first clean.
Hope this all make sense

lost me..... LOL

[paul rulton]

all joking a side Wizard that is a good idea. i like that m8. 

[Wizard]

Its working for me.As amatter of fact a custy stpoed in Feb and said she will come back in April.Yippeee ita first again.Thanks Hitt man.