[prestige cleaners]

Unfortunately my customers father has passed away after falling from his ladder and hitting his head trying to clean his gutters, i think he lived in england. just wanted to warn others to be careful if you have to use a ladder.

[dazmond]

what and you dont use a ladder EVER!!if you dont your not a PROPER window cleaner!!

dont need you to tell me to be careful i fell off twice(not for 10 yrs now though!)landed on my heels both times.ok though.hurt my back a bit last time but was back at work the next day!i was very lucky!

ill be mostly wfp in a few months but ill always have a need for the ladders sometimes mate.

regards

dazmond

[prestige cleaners]

well ive been a windy 2 1/2 yrs now with no ladders so yes you can be a ladderless windy if you really try. i do use them for internal gutter cleans though. (hate them)

dont take offence im only trying to help people to not be complacent.

my other friend fell off his ladder a few yrs ago and landed on his cocyx on a wall, he was ok thankfully.
another friend his rung actually snapped! i think he broke his leg!

[actualcleaning]

well ive been a windy 2 1/2 yrs now with no ladders so yes you can be a ladderless windy if you really try. i do use them for internal gutter cleans though. (hate them)

So if you offer gutter clearances using a ladder as part of your services then you are not really a laddderless window cleaner....
I saw a nice van the other week with all the trimmings...nice wrap signage,ionics logo..and a nice prominant sign saying "ladderless window cleaning services"...
Yes you guessed it they had two sets of triples on the rack.....lmfao

[prestige cleaners]

ok  i only clean windows ladderlessly (is that a word? ) btw i would never go up a triple.

[woody1]

your not a windy you are a water fed pole operative

[Adam Boss]

X amount of people died today driving to work today, best never drive again .
Accidents happen ! if you know how to use ladders and use ladder safety equipment then you are very safe,
If have run my own business for 21 years and only use my WFP when I need to.

[prestige cleaners]

your not a windy you are a water fed pole operative

i like the sound of that 

[Craig 72]

I'd say 90% of my work is now wfp but I still have some decent jobs where people insist on trad so I bite the bullet.I hate using ladders now I must admit.Accidents happen with window cleaners because in this business time is money.If I was to do a job like guttering on my own I would make sure the ladder was tied off and every saftey measure I could take was taken.With wcing you're rushing onto the next job it's easy and tempting to cut corners.I've seen people round my way take incredible risks and I cringe watching them.The guy who cleans down our road broke his leg recently falling off and he was very experienced.

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

well this is a thread we all should think about when up those ladders im not getting into a debate about trad or wfp again but there are wcleaners who climb far to high on them for there liking so as long as the ladder is secure then this is not a issues is it

[paul rulton]

dont matter wot u do.... when ur number's up ur number's up  : we just gotta b carefull guys

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

so i do secure wise on grass areas i use a pitch fork at the bottom and for graveled areas i move the gravel or secure the ladder with the car tyre dont make the mistakes i made at the start 20yrs ago just a few tips for the lads and ladies out there

[martinsadie]

your not a windy you are a water fed pole operative

i like the sound of that 

the Trigger of window cleaning 

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

well ive been a windy 2 1/2 yrs now with no ladders so yes you can be a ladderless windy if you really try. i do use them for internal gutter cleans though. (hate them)

So if you offer gutter clearances using a ladder as part of your services then you are not really a laddderless window cleaner....
I saw a nice van the other week with all the trimmings...nice wrap signage,ionics logo..and a nice prominant sign saying "ladderless window cleaning services"...
Yes you guessed it they had two sets of triples on the rack.....lmfao

I am a ladderless window cleaner, before I got my guttervac I used ladders!
But I was still a "ladderless window cleaner" even though I used ladders to clear gutters doesnt mean I used them for window cleaning.


Matt

[paul rulton]

dont matter wot u do.... when ur number's up ur number's up  : we just gotta b carefull guys

Now theres a contradiction.

haha  sounded better in me head  n thats where it should of stayed lol

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

matt mate surely if you are a ladderless windy and you use ladders say ocassionly does that mean you are a ladder windowcleaner then or ladderless its A BIT free ranging this debate has come to

[ronnie paton]

 think hes saying the ladders are used for gutter cleanig and not window cleaning so that makes him a ladderless window cleaner

[Nathanael Jones]

X amount of people died today driving to work today, best never drive again .
Accidents happen ! if you know how to use ladders and use ladder safety equipment then you are very safe,
If have run my own business for 21 years and only use my WFP when I need to.

You wear a seatbelt when driving right?

Yes there are risks in everything, but you make efforts to reduce them. Ladder spikes, limpets, standoff's etc etc,... if you have to use a ladder then be smart about it.

One of the funniest things I ever saw window cleaning was not long after I first started out and I was working trad with my father in law. There was a car parked in an awkward place below a window & I couldn't stand the ladder in a way I felt was safe. The lady of the house was going out in 5 minutes, so I told the father in law I wasn't going to do that window till the car was moved. His attitude was "I've been doing this job 16 years and never fell, its perfectly safe,.. get on with it". I refused, & he went to do it to prove a point. He fell and went through the back window of the car,.. it cost him a trip to hospital and an £800 repair bill!

The "I've been cleaning windows off ladders for 50 years & never fell" line doesn't work with me. Regardless of your experience & previous luck, recognise the risk & always encourage ppl to work smart!

[Londoner]

Actually, its "I've been window cleaning X years and never fallen off - yet" Except most people miss off the "yet".
Accidents are always there waiting to happen. You are totally nieve if you think otherwise.

[andykirk]

Yes there are risks in everything, but you make efforts to reduce them. Ladder spikes, limpets, standoff's etc etc,... if you have to use a ladder then be smart about it.

..................recognise the risk & always encourage ppl to work smart!

Wise words Nathanael - I always reckon the most dangerous thing about a ladder is when the operator loses his regard for how dangerous it is....