[paul rulton]

ive been cleaning windows since 1989/90. i was trad up until 4months ago.
now dont get me wrong wfp does do a fantastic job & its way faster than trad,
so with out sayin the money is better to.
but for me now there is something missing, & today i realised what it was.
i really miss the trad! after all these years on the windows im now not enjoying it.
before wfp there was a skill involved, now anyone could do it!
& for me that has just taken everything away from it.
the reason i turned to wfp was because i could no longer do ladder work due to back surgery,
either that or sell up. & i didnt want that. just wanted to know if i was alone on this or if any
of you guys felt the same?

[Ian W]

I have been going about 4 years and use wfp when safety dictates. I still trad most houses and am happy doing it this way.

[jouk45]

100% wfp  all my custys love it, and never want the old way back, thats the truth

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

most ov my works trad though wfp is an excellent
tool n a crackin bit ov kit i agree m8 i jus lv the trad 

[paul rulton]

really miss the trad if it wernt 4my back i would still b doin it..... GUTTED!!!!!

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

 i feel 4 u buddy was wfp most ov morning
 i jus ad to get on me ladder so laddered all afternoon
felt grrrrrr8

[paul rulton]

u lucky sod

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

n im on it all day 2moro ye haw         

[sgibsoncleaning]

i still trad downstairs. i prefer it and enjoy doing it. i do see the point that getting good with a squegee was a learning curve, older w/cleaners had respect because they had honed their skills. now its all about how much your system cost. people looking down thier noses at trad or homebuilt systems just because they spend 15k. ever since this forum started i have always been keen on helping new people but now most of the time i cant be bothered. i have seen posts from members having digs  at trad, bragging about thier systems then  asking for help pricing a basic job. some have no respect for people who have done this job for years.
at the end of the day its what tool is suitable for the job you are doing. wfp is just another tool in the van

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

no that is the truerest statement iv
heard for a while , get that man a cigar !!!!!!

[paul rulton]

 

[dazmond]

im 100% trad and have been for 16 years!some days i love it and other days i think to myself "this would be so much easier with wfp!!!"

also i have problems with my right knee sometimes.i dont think itll hold up another 16 years on the ladders! :

i do seem to have this fear that ill lose loads of custys when i changeover to wfp! :

its probably all in my head!! : :

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

im 100% trad and have been for 16 years!some days i love it and other days i think to myself "this would be so much easier with wfp!!!"

also i have problems with my right knee sometimes.i dont think itll hold up another 16 years on the ladders! :

i do seem to have this fear that ill lose loads of custys when i changeover to wfp! :

its probably all in my head!! : :

it will be hard m8 trust me first cleans r murder
but frames will look better etc n youl be knackered !!!!

[paul rulton]

if my back was ok i would never have changed 2wfp. TRADMAN oh yer! all day long baby

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

wot with yr back lol

[paul rulton]

wot with yr back lol

fell off my ladder nearly 4years ago & prolapsed 3discs in hospital next friday
2ave 7injections in my spine

[Ross G]

I have been wfp for 5 months prior to  that i was 25 years trad, 95% of my round is now wfp. After all these years it feels like a bloody holiday now going to work, and i look forward to it a lot more, saying that I do enjoy the wee bit trad i have left it keeps my skills ticking over.
Hand on heart though wfp has been a blessing for me, you could say i'm a born again window cleaner having changed over and gotten through one of the worst winters in years i'm looking forward to the months ahead.
By the way Dazmond i felt like you regarding losing customers but i'm totally confident about my working methods and the results and i haven't lost a single one.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

only kidding u up m8 , u gotta take it
easy yr getting on now n youve only got 1 back
av u tried a corset m8  

[paul rulton]

not allowed goin 2 bed now fella, my diazepam is well kickin in  laters m8

[jouk45]

wfp is not just a tool for in the van, to me thats just trad guys covering their ar*%$  or they are losing work to us, whats the point going wfp, if you are a true wfp cleaner like me you never need trad again except insides, fact,