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derek west

sorry, more hard floor help
« on: March 09, 2010, 01:09:24 pm »
gonna buy myself a driveway set up.

looking at tech cleans pt250 at £1095 +, seems like a good deal and up for the job.

i know theres a lot of different varying whirlaways, so what should i be looking for to do a top job.

size?
constructiuon type?
castors or skirts?

roll on hard floor course.

ps... would this be better in the general cleaning section?



derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 01:30:51 pm »
cheers dave

how do you get on without the castors compared to having them if youve tried with?

David_Annable

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 03:34:46 pm »
Hi

I have the 13hp Honda engined PW great piece of kit.

Personally i prefer the Whirlaway with the skirt , cant remember what size mine is maybe 20" or 24", the bigger the better if you are doing driveways etc.

Dave
NCCA, Woolsafe, IICRC Leather Cleaning Technician

davep

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Mike Halliday

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 04:23:10 pm »
I totally disagree with Dave I had the 24inch and got rid of it, size make no difference to speed at all, if you had a 30inch FSC it would not be twice as quick as a 15inch because you have to move it at half the speed the bigger the size, the slower you have to move across the drive.

I use a 12inch which I got from tech-clean, you can see it on my website video this does the best job.

trust me I can afford to buy any flat surface cleaner I want and I use the 12inch.

I did £580 of pressure washing on Saturday and have £350 booked for next week all will be done with a turbo lance and my 12inch FSC.

if you lived a bit closer you could join me next week( Monday) and see what I mean.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 06:20:12 pm »
mike
is it worth getting the 12" mosmatic with the vac hole?

right so.............

honda 390 13hp

mosmatic 12"

turbo lance

sorted

now to find the cheapest prices.


Mike Halliday

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 06:50:26 pm »
Yep I use the 12ich with my truckount to do kitchen floors.

it is just the right weight to hover with the power of the P/W it just glides across the drives & paths.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 07:47:28 pm »
do the wheels detach mike?

Mike Halliday

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 07:54:07 pm »
I've just taken mine off they just bolt on.

you'll also need 50-75 ft of H/P hose 50ft of garden hose, a wheely bin with a feed fitted at the bottom a stiff brush, a wide shovel some buckets some window cleaning gear ( the window need washing afterwards) eye & ear protection water proofs. a 10ft scaffold board to lay along the grass or borders to stop the turbo lance ripping it apart.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 08:04:07 pm »
mike
could i not put the suction pipe from the powerwasher into the truckmount freshwater tank via the big screw off cap and then put the water feed through the normal route to fill up the freshwater tank on the trucky, this way i won't need a wheelie bin thingy.

sorry if that doesn't make any sense but i knew what i meant ;D

Mike Halliday

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 08:10:59 pm »
yes you can but it can be hard to bleed the suction pipe,

but if you are parked on the road and the job is at the back of the house you will need twice as much H/P hose you need the P/W as close to the job as possible, if the tap is on the wall at the back off the house then you can put your bin directly under it to fill it up, with the P/W stood directly next to it.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 08:17:56 pm »
its just that i'm running out of room in the van and a wheelie bin will struggle to fit in, other than getting another van specifically for hard floor which i aim to do if the work comes in. wouldn't say no to one of them big water trailers mike, how much was that monster?

davep

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 08:33:03 pm »
Derek thats how I run mine, from the water tank in the van (plugged into custys tap) Mikes right though and you will need long hose runs if working in the back.  Maybe one of those mini wheelie bins will do?

derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 08:37:59 pm »
forgive me for being a bit thick but why does the wheelie bin need a bottom feed?

Mike Halliday

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 08:43:54 pm »
once the wheelie bin is full of water it create a flow of water into the machine so stop air bubbles, so you don't need to bleed it

my bowser cost me about 3 grand in parts all bought off Ebay, I have an engineer mount it all together, it would have been 7 grand to buy from a company
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 08:48:59 pm »
I know nothing about this subject so I might look rather silly in a minute  ;D but, why do you need a bin? Does the cold feed not fit directly to the pressure washer, turn on the tap and away you go. I can appreciate it if you have no water supply but otherwise why use a bin? Sorry to all you pressure washing guys, i'm sure there is logical reason :)

Simon

derek west

Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2010, 08:57:45 pm »
standard water supply can't supply enough so the bin is like a buffer. i think. :-[

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: sorry, more hard floor help
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 09:22:56 pm »
I used to clean a lot of poultry units, i used a rig on a 40' trailer, 17500 lts
running 4 x 200' hoses, large 3 cyl perkins engine, twin burners. 2500psi @ 22 lpm

We often struggled for water supply on some farms, most have bore holes, own supply,
but 1 i remember had a supply i could of p*ssed faster, asked the flat cap if there was any
other supply, " i, one comes across yon ploughed field" i asked if i could plumb into it, he replied  " i, if i hadnt poughed thru it this morning"    :'(  ;D

Andrew