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Good evening all.

Is there any suggections on pricing structure for the job outlined.
Relativley new to the industry and have partnered with wfp outfit.

I have an opportunity to quote, as an approved contractor, for high level window cleaning in a large shopping centre.

Any advise and guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Mark
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bluez

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 11:20:51 pm »
If you have partnered with a wfp outfit why dont you ask them to price it.

hi

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 11:33:00 pm »
The reason being its relativley new to him. His work is predominantly residential and we both need help.

 ;D
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trevor povey

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF New
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2010, 08:25:44 am »
I,m always helpful but without putting some photos up were stuffed! ;)

whilst on as well  what sticks out immediately is if you both have little experience how can you be an approved contractor ???..just shows  that all the hard work small set ups  have put in over the years in getting a chance to tender on similar contracts sometimes counts for nothing ...could be the introduction of wfp that has caused this  ...good luck with yr quote and I sincerely hope you get the contract ;)

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 08:45:22 am »
Trevor,

Thanks for the response. The reason for me stating "approved contractor" is that the centre manager
is a friend of a friend who has assured me that once relevant paperwork is submitted, its as good as approved. Sorry should have explained a little better  :)

I will try to load photos soon

Mark
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Phild

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 09:04:12 am »
I call this the guesstimation process. Whatever result you come up with you have to make the judgement call of whether you think you can do the job in the time you have estimated.

1) Try and work out the square metreage of the area of glass you are proposing to clean. If any of the windows are less than a metre but you would have to move your feet or ladder to clean them treat them as if they were a metre square. It will take you a minute to actually clean each metre of glass.
2) Will your WFP partner be able to reach all inacessible areas or will you need powered access? If you do need a cherry picker you have the hire cost + your handling charge + delivery etc and need to think about permits to use it if you are going to be on roads, certification (IPAF) to operate it and where you will store it overnight (perhaps). If you are using it internally get the hire company to survey the job as consideration has to be given to floor loads.
3) What else are you cleaning? - Frames? signage? Cladding? For all of these you will have to make your own time estimate of how long it will take you to clean it.
4) Finally, take all your cleaning times, double it then multiply it by your hourly rate then add on all hire costs including your handling charge. Add 5% to the whole lot and quote that as your price but offer 5% discount for payment within 14 days. You will then get paid in 30 ;-)

Why double the cleaning time? Because that's what it is.. the cleaning time. You will spend time and effort putting cones out if it's daytime and Joe Public is about, if it's early/late in the day you want a premium, you spend time accessing the work and you spend time getting it inspected and signed off.

Finally whatever price you come up with (excluding the hire costs) just look at the job and ask yourself if your comfortable with the price before you give it to the customer. Don't get downhearted if it takes you longer to do than estimated the first time. Practice makes perfect and you will do it faster the next time.

Best of luck. Phil D

bluez

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 09:54:36 am »
Didnt mean my post to be unhelpful.

I wouldnt be posting pics of it now that you have said your mate is gauranteeing you get it as there may be others who have priced it and cause grief with the centre. But more information would be helpful unless you are looking for very gereral responses.

Agree with everything in Phils post and also be careful shopping centres can be hard to deal with regarding the time of your work due to the high footfall of the places.
hi

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Re: HELP WITH PRICING LARGE SHOPPING CENTRE FRONTAGE AND CANOPY GLASS ROOF
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 11:59:14 am »
Phil,

Again, thanks for the advise, its most helpful as ever ;D
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