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Paul Sk

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How high up a ladder?
« on: February 11, 2010, 07:54:09 pm »
I am new to window cleaning and would be greatfull for any advice as to how high to go. I have a 3m x3 ladder and feel ok at first floor windows. Second floor/attic room windows feel a bit high for safty. Any advice?

paul rulton

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 08:01:46 pm »
i never went over 1st floor m8, never needed 2. plenty of work out there
with out pushing ya luck ;)

Jays Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 356
Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 08:06:00 pm »
If it dont feel safe then dont do it. Try and stick with 1st floor windows.

woody1

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 08:10:18 pm »
Ive done 2nd floor but dont feel comfortble doing so so dont do them any more, just remember falling from 2nd floor you dont have much chance off walking away from it or walking again, not worth it m8 stick with 1st floor

jonnyald

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 08:12:07 pm »
price the higher jobs up accordingly ,  to include money for your buddy footing the ladder  and AT least triple normal money.  i find then those higher jobs are good money

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 08:18:38 pm »
top rung face on glass full stretch  ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Jista

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 08:28:18 pm »
I am new to window cleaning and would be greatfull for any advice as to how high to go. I have a 3m x3 ladder and feel ok at first floor windows. Second floor/attic room windows feel a bit high for safty. Any advice?

Well lets see 12 years ago i was doing 3 story ladder slipped off bay i fell back as i come down about (300 mph) my body turned my head hit a wall broke my fall i suffered 1 broken ligament in hip, no skin to the fore head my knee's are shot but i was one of the lucky one's stick to the first story ,m8 :-)

martinsadie

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010, 08:46:09 pm »
ive a 3.6 double and thats the limit,although one job i pole off the top of the ladder when its not windy

tacky

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 08:51:59 pm »
dont risk it for a few quid .dont get me wrong we all done some stupid things .that even the circus people would mavel at .but broken bones mean no money comming in

Paul Sk

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 09:08:07 pm »
Thanks for all your coments. I will stick to 1st floor only. Can't afford any hospital time! Happy cleaning!

wizard

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 09:20:24 pm »
AS far as I know with out some footing the ladder you may go to first floor only for short time.  2 nd floor you must have some one foot the ladder as the on your own is deemed as unsafe. But read this web page its got all on the matter and be sure you are safe,dont take our word for your safety.
http://www.windowcleaningresources.co.uk/html/health_and_safety.html

gary mallett

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 06:56:14 am »
go as high as you want . just dont forget your parachute ;D

Steve_c

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 09:09:13 am »
Don't be a mug for a few quid, get a ladder stability device, GO WATER FED POLE ASAP. If you come of the ladder at height mate the chances are you going to do yourself some serious damage or god forbid kill yourself. Go as high as you are comfortable only.  Good luck

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 09:39:20 am »
top rung face on glass full stretch  ;D ;D

 ;D Ah the memories.



I used to ask the customers to keep certain windows open so I have something to grab hold of lol


Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

woody1

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 04:31:36 pm »
I do the same when cleaning very large windows as i am a short a-se

Ian Lancaster

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2010, 05:08:39 pm »


I used to ask the customers to keep certain windows open so I have something to grab hold of lol


Matt

DON'T DO IT.  If you are standing on a ladder, and you hold on to part of the building you will exert a sideways pressure with your feet on the ladder and could cause it to slip in the opposite direction from the side where you are holding on.  You should ONLY hold on to the ladder, that way you won't cause any adverse thrust with your feet.

THINK ABOUT IT if you hold on to (say) the frame of a fanlight then part of your weight is supported by that hand - you reach (even just a short distance) across with the other hand, your feet will tend to push on the ladder the opposite way.  You could easily finish up with the ladder falling away to that side and you hanging by one hand from the fanlight.

I KNOW - I'VE DONE IT ::)

Luckily my son was with me and he set the ladder up again so I could get back on to it. 

It only takes a split second, I knew better than to do that but a momentary lapse is all it takes.....

WILLIS

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 06:45:03 pm »
Industry to date was 9m
However if you apply Statutory Law the following info should help 

When can ladders be used?
Ladders can be used if after assessing the risks the use of more suitable work equipment is not justified because of the low risk and short duration.

You can refer to Working at height Regulations 2005
Section 7 Selection of equipment
Regulation 8(e) REQUIREMENTS FOR LADDERS Schedule 6
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2005/20050735.htm#7

Also visit the HSE website
http://www.hse.gov.uk/falls/ladders.htm

You can also Google the HSE inspector’s guidance pack online
This is a document that HSE inspectors refer to when visiting sites
HSE TOPIC INSPECTION PACK 2007
In this document they refer that it will be unlikely that after risk assessing that ladders will be suitable over first floor

9 out of ten times water fed pole is going to be the safest method of accessing domestic windows

I would also recommend investing in ladder training

Try contacting   

IMPACT43 www.training43.com
BWCA http://www.bwca.co.uk/
Or Federation Window Cleaners http://www.nfmwgc.com

Hope this helps


Andy


A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 07:19:26 pm »
why bother go straight to water fed pole seems easier or do 1st level trad and above that wfp

ccmids

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 07:44:03 pm »
top rung face on glass full stretch  ;D ;D


you done that lammy :o

gary mallett

Re: How high up a ladder?
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 08:29:18 pm »
what a load of rubbish and bad advice some people give on this forum. thats the problem with so many people wanting to give there little bit . you get so many bits of advice , most of it bad. cant believe someone said get your mate to foot it . :o