[♠Winp®oClean♠]

So davids3511, what did Alex say?

Alex didn't speak to me, one of his staff relayed his message. Basically to quote 'the price is the price', the top section is reinforced so more expensive. They didn't explain why the full 18foot pole is so much cheaper. When I asked if the top section of that is not reinforced I did not get a clear answer. I think the basics of their argument was that it is expensive to service and supply the section sales.

What they said is fair enough and I can't really remember it word for word now but they did struggle to justify it to me. I think if Alex had spoken to me himself things would have been much clearer. However, it's not a case of him refusing to speak to me, I didn't ask directly for him.

He did come to an agreement with me over price as I was buying 3 sections so fair play to him for that. I don't want to go into that on a public forum as I don't think that would be fair to Alex but also feel it would be unfair to him not to mention it in passing.

LOL reinforced, with what gold, tell me what with beside carbon fibre, because I can’t think of any other material.

Didn’t take long to drop the price, how much 10% 30% what?

I think you just have a gripe with gardiners Ewan. I know you like to act clever but what exactly do you know about the construction, manufacture of carbon fibre pole sections? or the structure, running & organization of a real business?

A bit rich from someone who charged £35 to scrape 1 egg from 1 window!!! LOL  : :

[Clive McDonald]

David 3511
How much did Alex charge?

This topic started with the title gardiners rip off but was changed.We have had six pages of vilification of Alex. Now you say it wouldn't be fair to post the price on a public forum?

Don't worry about Alex, you certainly didn't earlier in the thread.He doesn't come on here anymore and although this forum helped greatly in the gestation, launch, and the ultimate customer base, he doesn't care too much about us either.

You started this thread.You had enough to say at the start. Now finish it like a man and hang the consequences.

[ftp]

Crikey Slumps, this is like a bun fight. Have you ever chatted to Alex? To say he doesn't care about us is a bit strong. When I started he was a real help, even sending me a pole to get by. Seem to remember Squeaky having some help with a Superlight pole. Think Alex made one up out of various second hand tubes to keep him going whilst he had a shoulder injury and no money. I've spoken by phone and email with Alex and a more genuine person would be hard to find.
Yes, their products can seem expensive but have a look at the competition.
Really don't see why everyone wants to pitch in and attack Gardiners, is it because they are doing alright?
We don't know, they could even be struggling financially. We'd be buggered then if they went down the pan.

[Window Washers]

Crikey Slumps, this is like a bun fight. Have you ever chatted to Alex? To say he doesn't care about us is a bit strong. When I started he was a real help, even sending me a pole to get by. Seem to remember Squeaky having some help with a Superlight pole. Think Alex made one up out of various second hand tubes to keep him going whilst he had a shoulder injury and no money. I've spoken by phone and email with Alex and a more genuine person would be hard to find.
Yes, their products can seem expensive but have a look at the competition.
Really don't see why everyone wants to pitch in and attack Gardiners, is it because they are doing alright?
We don't know, they could even be struggling financially. We'd be buggered then if they went down the pan.

ftp this is not an attack on Alex as a person, it is the fact you can buy an 18ft slx with new brush and hose and goose neck )plastic) for less than you can get three replacement sections (some of of bought the highest price pole and it seems that some of us are peed off that we are held over a barrel becauswe price seems for good reason a rip off, thaTS NOT SLATING ALEX THAT BEING HONEST.

HE HAS TO GET THESE PARTS ANYWAY IN THE PARTS PROCESS AS EACH WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT TOOL

[davids3511]

I think if you actually get to Alex he is a great guy and will help. He sent me a free set of the new clamps when my old ones broke with no problems and I am sure he could have explained the pricing to me if I had got to him. Instead I spoke to his staff who will have to stick to company policy and will not have the freedom to make decisions on the fly.

He has charged me a price very similar to Malc at £299 inc delivery.

I don't believe I vilified Alex, I was very unhappy with the pricing structure and to be honest I still am. At £299 it is still very expensive but the pole is excellent and I will pay the £299 to keep using it. Alex has offered a discount which at the end of the day he didn't have to and I appreciate that.

[davids3511]

This post insn't the first where I have heard the mk1 pole is better. Didn't Alex move the production of the pole to the UK for the mk2? I seem to remember some comment about the SLX logo not being printed on the mk2 pole as there wasn't a machine in the uk to do it. Does this maybe explain the possible difference in quality?

[gewindows]

David 3511
How much did Alex charge?

This topic started with the title gardiners rip off but was changed.We have had six pages of vilification of Alex. Now you say it wouldn't be fair to post the price on a public forum?

Don't worry about Alex, you certainly didn't earlier in the thread.He doesn't come on here anymore and although this forum helped greatly in the gestation, launch, and the ultimate customer base, he doesn't care too much about us either.

You started this thread.You had enough to say at the start. Now finish it like a man and hang the consequences.

Oi you whinging old woman, after numerous requests to see some dumb logo you've spouted about (like all your other stuff you like to bore us with) why dont you post a picture of it instead of bemoaning one of the best posters this forum has had who undoubtedly has been a huge contributing factor in benefitting your business.

So in true Slumpy words 'you started the thread on your logo, now finish it like a man and hang the conseuences!'

[matt]

This post insn't the first where I have heard the mk1 pole is better. Didn't Alex move the production of the pole to the UK for the mk2? I seem to remember some comment about the SLX logo not being printed on the mk2 pole as there wasn't a machine in the uk to do it. Does this maybe explain the possible difference in quality?

yes, that was rupert the bear, he used to stare at his pole and marvel at the kaleidescope or colours that would come off it in the sun

what a star

[Clive McDonald]

Good answer. I was just curious

As cruel and antagonistic as this forum can sometimes be to show us two fingers is not good PR. But that's just what i think.


As regards the logo i've put it up twice- and it's nothing special anyway.

[gewindows]

Well youve taken it down then, its not on your logo thread.

Come on be a man, practise what you preach! 

[Clive McDonald]

But what if David3511 phones me up and calls me a pratt and say's what do i mean be a man?
I have to keep deleting my account as it is.

[gewindows]

I said you were a fraud Slumpy on your logo thread, there's no need to prove it 

[Jeff Brimble]

Technically the old Emporium was the lightest, not sure about the new Cleantech/Emporium one though.

[davids3511]

But what if David3511 phones me up and calls me a pratt and say's what do i mean be a man?
I have to keep deleting my account as it is.

I wouldn't dare say that to one of the pillars of cleanitup

[matt]

But what if David3511 phones me up and calls me a pratt and say's what do i mean be a man?
I have to keep deleting my account as it is.

I wouldn't dare say that to one of the pillocks of cleanitup

i have edited it for you

 

[davids3511]

Tell you what I have noticed, the 18ft and 22ft SLX is no longer on Gardiners site. I wonder why? The 30 ft is still there showing as not in stock just like the 18ft and 22ft were until very recently.

[ftp]

Maybe they are updating the range. They have the 40' S-Max on offer at the moment so maybe that one is a slow seller?

[paul rulton]

Tell you what I have noticed, the 18ft and 22ft SLX is no longer on Gardiners site. I wonder why? The 30 ft is still there showing as not in stock just like the 18ft and 22ft were until very recently.

i just got the 30ftslx, when i asked about the 22ft they told me they stopped
making them as they werent very popular

[ftp]

Have to say I really can't see the point in an eighteen foot carbon pole. Carbon really comes into it's own on the longer lengths.

[paul rulton]

Have to say I really can't see the point in an eighteen foot carbon pole. Carbon really comes into it's own on the longer lengths.

i agree, so glad i didnt go 4 the shorter 1's. mind u it only just goes in the bk of my van :