[ftp]

Today I have been playing with my wagtail (and now my eyesight is failing)
I have deliberately been blading my conservatory windows, having watched a few vids of people cleaning with a pole I notice that several use a straight pull from top to bottom with a pole. How can results be perfect? I don't see how you can avoid dragging the solution from the top frame on a straight pull at distance 

Have to say I'm liking the new whirlwind for larger panes. The pad holds so much water and is shaped better than the old flipper. Works pretty well as a one pass tool also.
Anyone using the wagtail angle piece on a water fed pole?

[mci services]

for straight pulls you need to start with a dry blade and between pulls bang the squeegie on an unwashed bit of window, then start again. it will leave some solution at the top of the frame so you wrap a scrim round the pole and wipe

[ftp]

Yes, i've seen that technique - does it really work?
Maybe I need more practice - I can't manage it from six inches away 

[mci services]

no idea i am rubbish at it and ive been doing it for years. i only do it for shops and i only do till i can reach with my squeegie. another thing is not to applicate the water right to the top edge. after a while you can do a half decent job but i am no expert and would like a better method

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

For me trad pole work doesn't give a good/reliable enough result. There is always something left behind, too difficult to detail properly & you're not close enough to see it.

If you're satisfied with that or it's the only option then fine, but it's not for me personaly.

The vids on the internet you watch never show close up results & many are pointless IMO.
Wagga is a good entertainer but my guess is if you were to inspect the result closer it wouldn't be satisfactory for many.

[jonnyald]

i can fan o.k with a wagtail on a pole. how i learnt was every bungalow i did instead of normal squeegeeing  i used a pole  and  i cut the top edge rapidly left to right ,right to left as a starter .

 i couldnt fan with the wagtail rubber no matter what i tried,but find any soft rubber is far easier

 i can never get the mop to flip on a longish pole so above conservatories i use a wagtail modified exactly  as WAGGA  shows on you tube with the mop on top .

[mci services]

For me trad pole work doesn't give a good/reliable enough result. There is always something left behind, too difficult to detail properly & you're not close enough to see it.

If you're satisfied with that or it's the only option then fine, but it's not for me personaly.

The vids on the internet you watch never show close up results & many are pointless IMO.
Wagga is a good entertainer but my guess is if you were to inspect the result closer it wouldn't be satisfactory for many.

i agree and wouldnt use it for anything other than the odd shop and certainly not residential work

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

However, the wagtail is superb in normal use, wouldn't be without it. Just over-rated for pole work IMO.

[gewindows]

For me trad pole work doesn't give a good/reliable enough result. There is always something left behind, too difficult to detail properly & you're not close enough to see it.

If you're satisfied with that or it's the only option then fine, but it's not for me personaly.

The vids on the internet you watch never show close up results & many are pointless IMO.
Wagga is a good entertainer but my guess is if you were to inspect the result closer it wouldn't be satisfactory for many.

Good post, I would just omit the word 'satisfactory' and insert 'any good'.

[dazmond]

you all know id pipe up on this one!ive been using trad poles for years and yes ON DOMESTICS!doing straight pulls and using dry microfibre in a clamp for detailing and NEVER HAD A SINGLE COMPLAINT IN 16 YEARS!

I USE THEM EVERY DAY and during the recent icey weather thats all i used on residential until the snow and ice thawed.i always make sure ive a good rubber in the squeegy and i use an angle adaptor for deep ledges.

THANK GOD FOR TRAD POLES!esp for windows above wet decking/gravel/imprinted concrete/mossy surfaces etc

by far the best safest tool for the job you can buy for a sole trad window cleaner.

you get much better with practice.never perfect but so what?its the kitchen windows and living room one you need to get spot on!!

[pure tech]

At the top of the window try (in one movement)  blading sideways a little  before your downward pull.

[ftp]

If it's a large pane then I can wagtail it by cutting in at the centre then fanning left to right. It's those smaller panes where there is not enough room to fan, only a pull down that can be done. I had to change the rubber to a soft one cos the wagtail wouldn't change direction without juddering.
I thought wfp was frustrating. 

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

A man after my own heart Dazmond ! With practise ya can
Get a perfect result `trad poling`.My own personal limit height
Wise is 30 feet.
With all the different tools and accessories there are out there
These days it makes our job easier and safer to boot !
Who`s squeegee`s,rubbers,clamps etc, do you use and how high
Do you go before you decide that’s high enough ?


Lewis  Doubtfire

[leapstallbuildings]

I only use it for stuff like shop windows that are too high to reach.

I stop the applicator just before the top of the glass leaving a little gap there and use the squeegee by dragging across a bit before the downbward pull.
Two important things IMO are
1) to ensure there is a decent rubber in the channel.
2) on the downward pull, tilt the squeegee a bit so that the higher end is at the side you are working towards.  If it's tilted like this, the surplus liquid from the rubber will find its way to the end of the rubber where you will be working on the next pull.

[dazmond]

hi doubtfire i use an unger teleplus pole and use the 3 section mostly.so 6 metres.i have a job where i use the 4th section.never used the last section.i think that would be difficult!

i use a unger swivelock squeegy and angle adaptor/unger soft rubbers and fixiclamp with dry blue flatweave microfibres for detailing.i also have a unger scraper that pops on the end of the pole when needed!job done!

regards

dazmond

[simon knight]

for straight pulls you need to start with a dry blade and between pulls bang the squeegie on an unwashed bit of window, then start again. it will leave some solution at the top of the frame so you wrap a scrim round the pole and wipe

Yep, double tap knocks off most water and the bit it doesn't is sooo fine you'd really have to look to see it.

[wizard]

I have a problem with unger flexi grip when I put a cloth in it ,it always come out as if the grip is not enough.

[Ian W]

I have a problem with unger flexi grip when I put a cloth in it ,it always come out as if the grip is not enough.

This might help?

http://www.youtube.com/user/MyWagga#p/u/2/6JSrWtRgi_E

[dazmond]

hi wizard what cloths are u using?i use the very big blue flatweave microfibres or full size scrim.i never have a problem really with cloth not gripping fixiclamp.

regards

dazmond