[dd]

Was due out last year. Anyone know if Alex is still planning to bring it to market?

[daz1977]

yea went down there the other day, all the stuffs in there i think that might be the way hes taking is business, dont know how long it will be before hes selling them

[niceandclean]

yea went down there the other day, all the stuffs in there i think that might be the way hes taking is business, dont know how long it will be before hes selling them

You don't know if he is doing hot do you?

[dd]

I figure by the time Alex brings it out, makes whatever minor improvements and hopefully develops a hot system I will be in the market. (As I understand he is starting with cold only).

[daz1977]

no idea, i only know he is going van systesm, as i went to buy a tank and asked about back ones they had and the girl said they are for the van systems they are going to start to sell

[Clive McDonald]

Big Dave has made the odd nuanced remark, it did cross my mind that he has one on test.If he's keeping his gob shut it must be a freebie.

Apparently the tilting mechanism for when the water is low has plastic cams........

[Clive McDonald]

I assume any system would have a very low c of g and would be spread across the entire load compartment and have lots of space above as a mounting and work platform.

[Window Washers]

I assume any system would have a very low c of g and would be spread across the entire load compartment and have lots of space above as a mounting and work platform.

as long as it is not a flat white tank many use as they not the best idea in the world

[Nathanael Jones]

I think the tank design will be one of the major features of the gardiner systems if I remember what alex was saying right. He was talking about tanks custom made for each van, fully baffled (Unlike the tanks available off the shelf) and covering the entire floor of the van. Because they will be 4 times as wide they only need to be 1/4 the height. I assume there would be some mechanism to keep the water flowing even when you're parked on a hill (Simple enough to do really).
I guess that a tank covering the entire base of the van could be fully bonded to the floor and would be very easy to make crash proof too.

[Window Washers]

Flat tank is fine ww with a lower recess for the water to drain to pump so no air locks occur with low water level, baffled tank would help, and recess doesn’t have to be very big.

Not to expensive to design and have your own tank made for a few hundred pounds, get it fitted in van properly and have a detachable panel with pump and flow regulator attached easy removal for winter or repairs a DI vessel, hose and connectors less than a £900. 

you have any pics Ewan ?
design@windowwashers.co.uk would be interesting to see, I went for 2 upright tanks in my transit because the tanks most use are terrible, I got the idea off a guy on here. Cheers Martin 

[daz1977]

I think the tank design will be one of the major features of the gardiner systems if I remember what alex was saying right. He was talking about tanks custom made for each van, fully baffled (Unlike the tanks available off the shelf) and covering the entire floor of the van. Because they will be 4 times as wide they only need to be 1/4 the height. I assume there would be some mechanism to keep the water flowing even when you're parked on a hill (Simple enough to do really).
I guess that a tank covering the entire base of the van could be fully bonded to the floor and would be very easy to make crash proof too.

sound expensive

[Nathanael Jones]

sound expensive

Undoubtedly more than a Pure Freedom system, but I'd guess still a lot less than ionics. And Alex did say it would be crash tested too. 

[dd]

Alex said  (when he used to post on here) it would be around £2800+VAT for a 650l sytem fitted including RO system.

[p1w1]

Alex said  (when he used to post on here) it would be around £2800+VAT for a 650l sytem fitted including RO system.

just wait till it comes out and then do a diy version 

[Window Washers]

Flat tank is fine ww with a lower recess for the water to drain to pump so no air locks occur with low water level, baffled tank would help, and recess doesn’t have to be very big.

Not to expensive to design and have your own tank made for a few hundred pounds, get it fitted in van properly and have a detachable panel with pump and flow regulator attached easy removal for winter or repairs a DI vessel, hose and connectors less than a £900. 

you have any pics Ewan ?
design@windowwashers.co.uk would be interesting to see, I went for 2 upright tanks in my transit because the tanks most use are terrible, I got the idea off a guy on here. Cheers Martin 

No photo’s just ideas and design drawings, as for securing a tank in the van you can shape the tank to fit around the both sides of the wheel arches, the only way the tank can move then is upwards which shouldn’t be difficult to prevent and the weight of the water is working with you on this problem, no bolts needed and the tank can’t move in accident.

Have a look at E.M.P.F - www. Plasticwatertanks . co.uk, they can make any shape tank you want 650ltr tank will only cost you a few hundred pounds.

The owner works from large sheets of material, so if you design a tank with fewer sheets required for your tank, it will cost less. Give him a call and he will tell you the size of the sheets and how much they are, plus his hourly rate. So you can work out how much you own design will cost you approximately, before you even spend a penny, these tanks are no different to what ionic use.

Google plastic welding to find someone to make a tank for you nearer home.
 

cheers Ewan