[darrenlee]

hi
little help or should i say knowledge,
how would you go about setting up a training school for cleaning
to nvq  standards

i await your replys
thanks darren

[Pristine Clean]

The best way to appraoch this would to to get approved for BICs.

British Intitute of Cleaning Science.

If you wanted to be CC specific then you would need to apprach one of the govening bodies like NCCA etc.


regards

Dave

[darrenlee]

thanks dave

[robert meldrum]

It's a bit more complicated than that.

NVQ's / SVQ's are not just handed out, you have to attend training sessions run by registered training providers, submit work, be assessed in theory and practice, be assessed in the workplace and on complettion of that your work is submitted to an Awarding Board.

To be a trainer or assessor, you must complete the appropriate trainer / assessor course and if you pass you will be a qualified trainer / assessor.

We just put a dozen members of staff through an SVQ2 and it cost a shocking £900 per head. It's an absolute rip off................On the course the individual learns nothing new, assuming their employer has trained them adequately for their job, so in reality the employer has to pay out massive amounts of money to have some numpty paper check that they are doing what they've already been trained to do by their employer.

Unfortunately such " qualifications " are becoming mandatory and local authorities already require all staff and sub contracted staff to have at least the nvq 2 / svq 2

[Bob Robertson]

Robert

Ive still got a 2 jet wand in the garage for you. Hope it hasnt been fooked in the frost.

Bob

[robert meldrum]

Hiya Bob,  I'll pop along over the weekend if you're not too busy!

[Bob Robertson]

Hi Rob

Give me a call first as I'm working at a nursery today and I'm doing an office in Glasgow tomorrow.  I could drop it off to you some time during the week or meet up somewhere.

Bob

[Ken Wainwright]

In the past, I have been called upon to make presentations at training/learning facilities.

I discovered that the level of training at BICSc  level fell well short of the IICRC and NCCA standard. However, BICSc, IMO, is aimed primarily at daily contract cleaners who become involved in carpet cleaning in that environment, and for that purpose is mostly adequate. It would be reasonable to presume that any occasional problems revealed would be dealt with by a more senior/more knowledgeable person within the company. But whether this happens in reality, I am not qualified to comment on.

As a specialist carpet and upholstery cleaner, in light of my experiences as above, I would be wary of accepting these basic vocational qualifications as being adequate for my own business.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken

[darrenlee]

hi ken

many thanks for your input, any chance of me calling you at a time to suit you.

many thanks darren

[Pristine Clean]

In the past, I have been called upon to make presentations at training/learning facilities.

I discovered that the level of training at BICSc  level fell well short of the IICRC and NCCA standard. However, BICSc, IMO, is aimed primarily at daily contract cleaners who become involved in carpet cleaning in that environment, and for that purpose is mostly adequate. It would be reasonable to presume that any occasional problems revealed would be dealt with by a more senior/more knowledgeable person within the company. But whether this happens in reality, I am not qualified to comment on.

As a specialist carpet and upholstery cleaner, in light of my experiences as above, I would be wary of accepting these basic vocational qualifications as being adequate for my own business.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken

Hi Ken,

I totally agree with your post.

Thats why I said if he wants it to be Carpet cleaning specific best to go to some where like NCCA.

BICs is designed for office contract cleaners.

And only give an guide to cleaning standards in that environment of offices.

Dave

[Ken Wainwright]

darrenlee

Of course you can call me.

Not this afternoon, but this evening or any eve. in the week except Wednesday, after 7.00pm.

You'll get my contact details in the Find A Carpet Cleaner section of the NCCA website. I come under Birmingham/West Midlands.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken

[Ian Gourlay]

You can become an approved trainer for IICRC if you have completed various boy scout type badges been in industry  a period of time etc and then pass trainers exam

I think Mr Pierce told me he became a trainer with NCCA by helping out on courses over a period of years and earnng  his Stipes and then moved up to General

I think NCCA is a closed shop the only place you can do it is at NCCA

The reason they have control over content standards and it gives much needed revenue

Which is why ICCA was set up


Rob is it not possible for you or Angie to become ASSEORS

[robert meldrum]

Ian

Angie and her mother are both qualified Trainers in H&S /Risk Assessment / Moving and Handling  an and a couple more minors none of which are of any use to this industry, but it's provided me with an insight into the structure and content of that level and a bit higher of NVQ / SVQ.

To become an Approved and Registered Trainer for almost any of the NVQ'S costs around £1400 for each discipline, a bit less to be an assessor.

The nature of the " work " would drive most on here bonkers..............it's totally pedantic and only suits the " paper tiger " types

There is however a lot of money in training as I've said on here frequently, but for this industry what's needed is a fully equipped property with the various types of machinery and chemicals to allow demonstration / hands on / assessing / etc. With a seated area to cover the technical and theory side.