[Martin ccs]

im looking to swap over to wfp in the spring and am looking for any advice on the big swap over from trad please - sure alot of the new guys on here would be interested in this.

be great to get all your wfp swap over success story please as im a little worried and dont have 100% confidents at the mo.

been on here for a few months now and ive had some great help and picked up some great tips.

i seen that the best bits of kit i need are:
resin - tulsan from daqua
trolley - 25 litre from purefreedom
poles - gardiners or brodex

anyone think thats wrong then please let me know other options.

any help would be great.

[Ross G]

hi
i've not long changed over or should I say added it to my armoury, I did a load of research and this place was invaluable as far as help was concerned, imo i kind of got the gist that an SLX carbon fibre was probably getting on to being the best you could get so I opted for that and it really works for me ditto re the 25 ltr Pure Freedom Trolly, got myself a WCW backpack as well and am truly happy with that bit kit as well.
And I think you're right regarding the resin from Daqua.

[Martin ccs]

hi
i've not long changed over or should I say added it to my armoury, I did a load of research and this place was invaluable as far as help was concerned, imo i kind of got the gist that an SLX carbon fibre was probably getting on to being the best you could get so I opted for that and it really works for me ditto re the 25 ltr Pure Freedom Trolly, got myself a WCW backpack as well and am truly happy with that bit kit as well.
And I think you're right regarding the resin from Daqua.

cheers mate,

im hoping that going wfp will speed me up aswell? nearly every domestic house i do has one or two awkward windows for trad and i find myself at nearly every house thinking - this would be soooooo much quicker wfp!

i went with brodex poles due to costs. £190 for two new alloy hydra poles. prob go with the slx when im fully up and running wfp for a while.

[marcus hopkins]

In my experience go for the best you can afford. When i setup my first system i went for a van mount system from pure freedom.
I soon found that the streamline fiberglass pole is not really designed for the long days we often work, shoulders like marius podganovski are required and i soon found the onset of tennis elbow hindered me. After a visit to the cleaning show at the NEC i sampled a few carbon poles and took the plunge to purchase a facelift carbon pole, the best move i ever made robust, light and the elbow healed never to return. I then found my 200ltr per day RO wasnt producing enough water for my needs (RO's never produce anywhere near the rated output) I then got a 300ltr per day RO and a booster pump. Then a bigger tank. All in all, all i need for a second setup now is a hose and pump as everything else has been upgraded.

What i am getting at is that if i had spent the money in the first place i would have saved a lot of money in the longrun.

Marcus

[Tosh]

Martin,

Your biggest obstacle will be the one in your own mind.  You'll be thinking, 'My customers won't like this', or, 'Maybe it isn't as good as trad', or, 'My customers will think I'm ripping them off', or some other stuff along these lines.

And you may have the odd customer who really won't like it, but it'll be the odd one, and the vast majority of customers will be fine.  They just want their windows cleaned.  And if any get 'funny', then just tell them how it works and explain you're happy to wait till the customer has checked their windows and are happy with the result before you get paid.

Now, I don't even explain to a new customer how I clean the windows unless I want to use it for a selling point, such as 'I can clean those windows above your conservatory'; I just crack on and do it.

And before you use your new system, which-ever it'll be, take the time to practise first.

[Ross G]

So true Tosh
Defo a big part of the hassle is in your own mind, I spent more time worrying what people would say/think and your right 99% just want the damn things cleaned
my only complaint was from a crusty old know it all wifey who assured me that "you can't clean windows with a stupid pole that gushes out water", I didn't even waste my breathe trying to explain.

[marcus hopkins]

Totally agree with tweedledum there.
When i ported from trad to waterfed my biggest fear was my customers not liking it. I explained how the system works to most and they all said well we will give it a go. On the next months clean i asked each one if they were happy with how the windows dried and all said yes they were very impressed. The main thing is to ensure you rinse and rinse again on the first clean as that is the one they will act on.
There is also small things to think of such as fan jets or pencil jets in the brush. I personally prefer fanjets as they seem to rinse quicker and more thoroughly, plus seem to use less water.
It will be a learning curve but i am sure you will soon get the hang of it and will never look back.

[D B Services]

Are you in a soft water area because I see no mention of an RO system on your list.

If you are not then it will be very expensive to run. About trollies I looked at the freedom and the X-Line one and went for the X-line. They look similar but the X-Line is much better build quality with an adjustable handle. I employ so durability is important. The kit gets well used and the X-Line trollies haven't missed a beat in 9 months. The advice about the poles is very good. Get the best you can afford from day one.

Dan